renewal solidworks subscription

[marcof]

He also called me the ex-seller, suggesting that I update until the old rules are in place, and then abandon them. the thing that stops me is the price of the upgrade, of 1700 euros plus the fine of 500 for standard solidworks, which seems really exaggerated.

1700 euros of assistance (rotfl!!) for the standard version is a real robbery, and the robbers should be arrested.
In my opinion, assistance for inertia is renewed, even in large companies, but it would be enough to do so (and not for all) every 4-5 years. I challenge anyone to prove to me that with the 2009 swx you cannot do 95% of the things that you do with 2016. that 5% that needs 2016 otherwise closes the company then if you buy it.
working on it a little you could really do a great global campaign to stop the renewals. then they would descend from the pear. if we continue to run behind all the minkies that these baba go into for magic bread to betrayal then we deserve to treat ourselves as a milk amp.

 

[re_solidworks]

1700 euros of assistance (rotfl!!) for the standard version is a real robbery, and the robbers should be arrested.
In my opinion, assistance for inertia is renewed, even in large companies, but it would be enough to do so (and not for all) every 4-5 years. I challenge anyone to prove to me that with the 2009 swx you cannot do 95% of the things that you do with 2016. that 5% that needs 2016 otherwise closes the company then if you buy it.
working on it a little you could really do a great global campaign to stop the renewals. then they would descend from the pear. if we continue to run behind all the minkies that these baba go into for magic bread to betrayal then we deserve to treat ourselves as a milk amp.

I agree that 1700 euros are many and that innovations are not overwhelmed. But there are many useful things, believe me. work accelerates because these useful (but not indispensable) things save time. I mention one, which will serve a few, but for those who use it will be a manna. the couplings in continuous bending. If you need to model an object in continuity, it takes a lot of time, really. this function lowers time in a clamorous way and simplifies modeling work to get to the result. from 2009 to 2016 there are many more in all functional areas. For example, I am using a lot of the ability to manage the envelopes together with the mode introduced for a few years (if I'm not mistaken with 2013). This function allows me to break the assemblies by creating simpler tables, with all clear information, even in large assemblies. when it was not available it was much harder. I wouldn't go back to 2009 even for a dream.
apart from what they give or not, I find it extremely incorrect to change the trade policy in order and it is already the second time in a few years.

 

[Max-C]

it will be that there are so many beautiful new and useful things but there are incredible shortcomings. I quote 3. The last one happened two months ago.
- the rectangle of the "three-point shy" does not work (so that marcof keeps us much so I quote :biggrin=>perdi tempo to bind the last point.
- the concentric with "rotation block" does not work with the "copy with coupling"=>perdi tempo to block all rotations.
- I tried for a little set of the layout sketch. I realized it was a cabbage, I made the sketch empty and tried to erase it. It tells me that the sketch is not empty, I throw down two saints but nothing to do. phone to assistance and spend a couple of weeks. Meanwhile, since I have to continue, I do a normal sketch and use that as a layout.
moral: assistance gives me the solution and, to my question if in 2016 the problem arises, it says that it is a problem that has happened for several years but since there are few reports you prefer to solve others. I want to know what they solved.. .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

- the concentric with "rotation block" does not work with the "copy with coupling"=>perdi tempo to block all rotations.

Look, I accidentally found that if you click on the graph slice in the feature manager you have in the context menu also block/unlock rotations. and you do it only on those influential in respect of other constraints.
just one click and life smiles at you

 

[re_solidworks]

it will be that there are so many beautiful new and useful things but there are incredible shortcomings. I quote 3. The last one happened two months ago.
- the rectangle of the "three-point shy" does not work (so that marcof keeps us much so I quote :biggrin=>perdi tempo to bind the last point.

Just try more cads to understand that there is worse anyway. if you think that in other solutions you must first project all the points of the other sketches and then still bind everything by hand. automatic reports are not so discounted for everyone. not to defend anyone, if they say that it works just has to work. Others solve with a longer ride and arrange.

 

[Max-C]

Just try more cads to understand that there is worse anyway. if you think that in other solutions you must first project all the points of the other sketches and then still bind everything by hand. automatic reports are not so discounted for everyone. not to defend anyone, if they say that it works just has to work. Others solve with a longer ride and arrange.

However they pass it as a functional feature and pay it for it... it will be a stupid example that of rectangle but it is so...

that there are other best software/peggiori I don't question it...

 

[luca.cam]

Good evening,
€2450+iva to upgrade the premium version!
I agree with the thought of those who say that in most cases you can also do with old versions your work, at least that it is not necessary to use spatial functions that also create jam from PC air vents!
for a large company that "expalms" the cost on enne postings (with perhaps even a good discount from the seller) the speech "update" perhaps is also addressable, but for those who have a small study of 2-3 people, such an amount begins to become really heavy!

 

[cacciatorino]

Good evening,
€2450+iva to upgrade the premium version!
I agree with the thought of those who say that in most cases you can also do with old versions your work, at least that it is not necessary to use spatial functions that also create jam from PC air vents!
for a large company that "expalms" the cost on enne postings (with perhaps even a good discount from the seller) the speech "update" perhaps is also addressable, but for those who have a small study of 2-3 people, such an amount begins to become really heavy!

The next one will be like siemens, that is to make you impossible to move the license if you don't have active maintenance... .

 

[marcof]

In my opinion, assistance for inertia is renewed, even in large companies, but it would be enough to do so (and not for all) every 4-5 years. I challenge anyone to prove to me that with the 2009 swx you cannot do 95% of the things that you do with 2016.

But there are many useful things, believe me. work accelerates because these useful (but not indispensable) things save time
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from 2009 to 2016 there are many more in all functional areas.
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I wouldn't go back to 2009 even for a dream.

I would certainly not return from 2013 to 2009 and it is obvious that in 4-5 years have been introduced of the improvements and the more commands that certainly make convenient and I am using them, except for the same share of new basins and unresolved basins.
But you have to consider what I wrote first from the point of view not of those who have to hypothesize to go back (which obviously does not come back) but from that of those who have to power to move forward. I for example found nothing shocking in the versions after 2013 (I tried 2014 and the beta of 2015) to make me cry to the miracle. with a 4 year old version I do exactly the same things I would do with 2016. I quoted the case of joints in continuous bending. great, but it is not that everyone is there to make surfaces that need those fittings every holy day.
they are creating artificially the need to update to the next version and if they manage to do so in the same way as the telephone manufacturers creating a compulsive obsessive need then they are riding and the horse (or rather the donkey:redface, if not clear, it is us.

stopping now with the assistance will require to pay for example after a year 1700 euros of penalty, doing so before would have resulted in an expense of less than a third but perhaps it would have had the same effectiveness towards the different "gang" that sell us bad cut stuff:smile:
if some tens of thousands of users had stopped (or will stop) even for a single year explaining the reasons they would give the solidworks a nice scossone to reflect if it is the case to continue to take us for the deretan with penalties that know only of gabella.
I can't stop because I've already stopped, but to the commercial who called me I've been sleeping and hitting him and telling him that everyone can go to sleep under a bridge.
I just want to sell, not perfect a product so you have to beat him, hard, in the only place where they feel: in the wallet.

 

[Matteo]

I add that, when the swx user is a design/study engineering/advisory firm, he must remain in mnt to be able to have the latest versions, but also the database of dated installations, for the need to meet the customer. 1700€ + VAT for standard swx are really many: it is the price list and something discount you could ask (I limited a little in the renewal phase).

 

[luca.cam]

personally it would be enough to do a small market survey, not among the thirdists (intention as design offices), but directly at the companies producing machinery (so that they build directly what they plan), to realize that a large majority does not have the latest version of sw and has autonomously decided to suspend maintenance.
so I read just what was previously written: an external technical office is to have to be able to supply the customers both the design in the last release, but both in the previous versions and that at the moment, at least in my area, seems to be the most blasoned 2013.
This range of versions also allows you to compare them directly to the field: much has been done from 2003 to today, but from 2013 to 2015 sp.5.0, I do not think that we can say that we have seen the program radically, at least for use in the mechanical field. . .

 

[re_solidworks]

personally it would be enough to do a small market survey, not among the thirdists (intention as design offices), but directly at the companies producing machinery (so that they build directly what they plan), to realize that a large majority does not have the latest version of sw and has autonomously decided to suspend maintenance.
so I read just what was previously written: an external technical office is to have to be able to supply the customers both the design in the last release, but both in the previous versions and that at the moment, at least in my area, seems to be the most blasoned 2013.
This range of versions also allows you to compare them directly to the field: much has been done from 2003 to today, but from 2013 to 2015 sp.5.0, I do not think that we can say that we have seen the program radically, at least for use in the mechanical field. . .

always to be the devil's lawyer: have settled the hoppers in a decent way with 2014. have inserted the functions to create the chains with 2015. who makes machinery maybe uses these functions.
the core of the problem is not the proportion novelty/cost of renewal, but the fact that in order we made it compulsory to renew for everyone. I can't stop, I have customers who stay up to date and I'm obliged to follow them. Maybe if you were doing a year, and one wasn't a good savings. You can see they've noticed. .

 

[Pablo]

I confirm things that probably, 2 years after your posts, you have already verified on vs. skin.... to return in maintenance ask to pay the unpaid years (up to a maximum of 3), to me they have asked more than 7000 euros for the return of a premium expired in December 2015.......... think that I had almost decided to changeproved my policy of renewal from every 3 years to every 2 years...... but to these conditions I continue to work I should buy a new license....
Have a good day.

 

[marcof]

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I should buy a new license....

It's exactly what I said to the commercial who proposed to me the chord of the return, adding that to be more credible in making certain proposals and to fit perfectly into the character should put a handkerchief in front of the face and bring not one but two guns to the chintuon :smile:

 

[Pablo]

It's exactly what I said to the commercial who proposed to me the chord of the return, adding that to be more credible in making certain proposals and to fit perfectly into the character should put a handkerchief in front of the face and bring not one but two guns to the chintuon :smile:

♪ I don't know ♪

 

[Meteor02]

really self-taught politics... the face that made the commercial when I said that considering the situation and the cost so much worth evaluating other software does not have price will be the new sympathy operation. garda case tells me well waits towards March you will see we will make big discounts