representation view dx/sx

[D4n13l]

Hello everyone

I wanted to know if with creo 4.0 it is possible to create representations or another method to make sure that it can display the assembly of a set both right and left.
practically I have to move a tube that once must have the bevel with mounting to the right and once to the left (practically I have to rotate it 180°)
with inventor I could just do it by turning off and igniting the constraints that interested me with creo how can I do?

Can you help me?

Thank you very much

 

[AndreaTerzi]

even in creo it is possible to turn off a constraint set using the family table.

 

[D4n13l]

even in creo it is possible to turn off a constraint set using the family table.

without using family table is it possible to do so?
I don't want to create another code is just a display

 

[AndreaTerzi]

the sets you can make them enable or not when you want, so manually you can do it, if you want to automate it you have to use the family table, but if you have to create a drawing the only way is to assemble it twice and create simp reps to have the left version starting from the dx (or vice versa)

 

[D4n13l]

the sets you can make them enable or not when you want, so manually you can do it, if you want to automate it you have to use the family table, but if you have to create a drawing the only way is to assemble it twice and create simp reps to have the left version starting from the dx (or vice versa)

I thank you but I don't know how to do these things since I create I don't know him very well

thank you very much for your help

 

[320i S]

you can also use simplified representations, assemble the tube (in this case) in both ways, create 2 representations (dx and sx), represent and boil the side you prefer in the design and add the view with the representation that is missing, to show the other side.
so you have a unique code to manage both sides.
eye then if you use the distinct base of creo for the bom in the management, which should be properly modified to not have 2 times the same component mounted differently.

 

[D4n13l]

you can also use simplified representations, assemble the tube (in this case) in both ways, create 2 representations (dx and sx), represent and boil the side you prefer in the design and add the view with the representation that is missing, to show the other side.
so you have a unique code to manage both sides.
eye then if you use the distinct base of creo for the bom in the management, which should be properly modified to not have 2 times the same component mounted differently.

so it is easier for me, but as you have already said in the bom, I see twice the same code and I do not want it

 

[320i S]

I mean the bom taken from the 3d, if you use the bom of the 2d through one of the 2 representations, the correct value comes out.

 

[D4n13l]

I mean the bom taken from the 3d, if you use the bom of the 2d through one of the 2 representations, the correct value comes out.

I did as you suggested I managed to make representations, first exclude the dx component and then left based on the representation I need, correct?
When I put the 3d on the table, the double code appears to me in the bom of the 2d, what do I have to set for not seeing it twice?

 

[D4n13l]

I mean the bom taken from the 3d, if you use the bom of the 2d through one of the 2 representations, the correct value comes out.

I realized where I was wrong, first I have to enter the view dx I create the table and then insert that sx, so I see the right quantities as you said

 

[320i S]

exact, you have to create the table based on the representation you need, so the quantities are correct.

 

[D4n13l]

exact, you have to create the table based on the representation you need, so the quantities are correct.

perfect as you told me but there is another method not to insert the component twice?

 

[320i S]

perfect as you told me but there is another method not to insert the component twice?

other way is the family table, but you can recycle the same code and the family file you call it xxxx_dx or xxxx_sx based on what you want to represent in the father, the parameter "code" will remain unchanged in both.

 

[D4n13l]

other way is the family table, but you can recycle the same code and the family file you call it xxxx_dx or xxxx_sx based on what you want to represent in the father, the parameter "code" will remain unchanged in both.

would be great if you could handle the constraints as inventor... so you can mount it once dx and once left...
I don't really like the family table talk, but if that's the solution, I'll do this...

 

[320i S]

would be great if you could handle the constraints as inventor... so you can mount it once dx and once left...
I don't really like the family table talk, but if that's the solution, I'll do this...

I create it works differently with the constraints, inventor, from what I have understood and corrected if I am wrong, it is similar to solidworks, i.e. the constraints are all of a cinematic type, therefore they represent real external commands, similar to feature.
I create instead divides from rigid constraints and kinematic constraints and this so lightens the load on large assemblies, on the contrary it is that certain gestures of representations are to be managed differently (not that you can not do however).

 

[D4n13l]

I create it works differently with the constraints, inventor, from what I have understood and corrected if I am wrong, it is similar to solidworks, i.e. the constraints are all of a cinematic type, therefore they represent real external commands, similar to feature.
I create instead divides from rigid constraints and kinematic constraints and this so lightens the load on large assemblies, on the contrary it is that certain gestures of representations are to be managed differently (not that you can not do however).

the program is to understand and if you do not do courses it is not easy to use, fortunately there are you who help me
with inventor you can activate or disable the constraints according to the representation you want, it is much more intuitive as a program and also with the assemblies and with the management of movements, it is true what you say in the assemblies with so many components the management with inventor becomes heavy.

 

[320i S]

I create it is not among the intuitive programs, but it has several "colds to its own arc".
commands such as the "flexibility" of the components, "copy geometry", "publications" of the geometries, "special glue" of components and features, are really powerful once learned to use properly and that until now I have not found similar in catia, nor in solidworks.