revit 2011 how much is it worth? ?

[Tristan]

is the second dvd that provides me and with both from the same problem. .

So maybe it's a problem with your pc. Have you tried on a different car?

 

[Mone89]

So maybe it's a problem with your pc. Have you tried on a different car?

no... unfortunately nn I have other machines able to support well revit.. my supplier said not to try it because of the licenses, since it is a product guaranteed by autodesk.. (and with what you pay) is the same autodesk that must provide assistance. . Unfortunately, it has been several days and I have not yet had any response to my supplier's autodesk in this regard. So I wanted to ask you if something like this has already happened and if you can solve it.

 

[render54]

look that you can install it on how many machines you want, if you don't activate it it takes 30 days in demo mode by being able to save, so you can try to install it on another machine, don't send the unlock request and it's over there.
I for example installed it in the office and on a car at home (at home I have two computers).
on the second computer of the house I installed in modalita demo revit and it worked for 30 days, in those 30 days I started animations, I was free the first machine to do other things with other programs.

 

[Mone89]

look that you can install it on how many machines you want, if you don't activate it it takes 30 days in demo mode by being able to save, so you can try to install it on another machine, don't send the unlock request and it's over there.
I for example installed it in the office and on a car at home (at home I have two computers).
on the second computer of the house I installed in modalita demo revit and it worked for 30 days, in those 30 days I started animations, I was free the first machine to do other things with other programs.

I contacted my supplier. He'll try it on his computer. a question.. If I unload it and then enter the license I bought, it should be regular, not as a counterfeit copy.. Right?

 

[Tristan]

no... unfortunately nn I have other machines able to support well revit.. My supplier said not to try it because of licenses

you do not have to install it to use it, but only to see if the defect is in the dvd or in the pc! but by whom do you buy? by mouse gigio?

since it is a product guaranteed by autodesk.. (and with what you pay) is the same autodesk that must provide assistance. .

I'm still here that I'm laughing... horsefield now that adsk answers you for such a problem. I'm sorry, but it's your dealer who needs to bang. he eventually rivals himself on autodesk. There is a hierarchical scale to follow.

Unfortunately, it has been several days and I have not yet had any response to my supplier's autodesk in this regard.

Storm to call the dealer! :bekle:

 

[Tristan]

If I unload it and then enter the license I bought, it should be regular, not as a counterfeit copy.. Right?

absolutely yes. Make the invoice not the box! :wink:

 

[Mone89]

you do not have to install it to use it, but only to see if the defect is in the dvd or in the pc! but by whom do you buy? by mouse gigio?


I'm still here that I'm laughing... horsefield now that adsk answers you for such a problem. I'm sorry, but it's your dealer who needs to bang. he eventually rivals himself on autodesk. There is a hierarchical scale to follow.


Storm to call the dealer! :bekle:

ahahah ok.. At the cost of bleeding my ear, I fill it. Since he's always arranged to bring you things to install me, for once I did it, I jumped I'm problem, and it's not that I mean a lot of licenses or things like that. .
cmq alternatively where can I download the full Italian program?

 

[Tristan]

cmq alternatively where can I download the full Italian program?

from here after filling out the form:
http://www.autodesk.it/adsk/servlet/download/item?siteid=457036&id=14868546

 

[Mone89]

from here after filling out the form:
http://www.autodesk.it/adsk/servlet/download/item?siteid=457036&id=14868546

Are there any other ways to download it? beyond the official website?

 

[Tristan]

Are there any other ways to download it? beyond the official website?

I don't know. I always dumped it from there.

 

[Mone89]

I don't know. I always dumped it from there.

ok thanks 1000 of everything

 

[roberto 2011]

Well returning to the all extra-Italian "quality" of revit, from my experience of over two years I preferred not to open it anymore, if not to revisit everything in dwg, and to return to use only autocad.

I do not doubt that for certain works it will be good to become programmers of families and spend days adjusting the joints, madness with structures or with quotas... but for houses of a simple "geometra" the vorare with autocad is much more certain and fast.

I think of the approximation of details. lack of windows with thinner subsoils that house the radiators (also using a specific family you must then change the floor), or the roofing loft without the roof of tiles that comes out with small dripper, so for the thresholds of the French doors. . .

but you want to put working with a nice coordinate grid with 8 decimals as with autocad that allows you the mathematical certainty of how much you are doing?

and if you want to favor a particular at first sight and shade one in the distance, or not put it at all... .
cut moderatoreand what about the 800 euro subscrption + VAT? once you're caught... or pay or even remove autocad updates.

And we're not in Cuba, like arch warburg would say.... :redface:

 

[Tristan]

Well returning to the all extra-Italian "quality" of revit, from my experience of over two years I preferred not to open it anymore, if not to revisit everything in dwg, and to return to use only autocad.

happy you...

I do not doubt that for certain works it will be good to become programmers of families and spend days adjusting the joints, madness with structures or with quotas... but for houses of a simple "geometra" working with autocad is much more certain and fast.

faster I doubt it strongly! cut moderatore

I think of the approximation of details. lack of windows with thinner subsoils that house the radiators (also using a specific family you must then change the floor), or the roofing loft without the roof of tiles that comes out with small dripper, so for the thresholds of the French doors. . .

all details that you can create in detail views or import them from dwg autocad if you had a library of details in pre-revit period

but you want to put working with a nice coordinate grid with 8 decimals as with autocad that allows you the mathematical certainty of how much you are doing?

8 decimals??? What are you doing? would you make us believe that your trust builder works in micron? ! cut moderatore

and if you want to favor a particular at first sight and shade one in the distance, or not put it at all... .

You can also do it in revit... cut moderatore

Bah. I will have blocked the future (my) but working in the ways imposed by revit sends me too much beast. and what about the 800 euro subscrption + VAT? once you're caught... or pay or even remove autocad updates.

Here's another one. but before complaining about the sub (which does not cost that figure, but 200 euros less!) did you at least ask for the benefits it offers? or do as my client who started complaining and as soon as I unleashed the main advantages began to say: "Well, I didn't know it was stuff... and how it works? "
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[roberto 2011]

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faster I doubt it strongly! you probably don't know the product or have never tried to understand its philosophy

You don't know how much commitment they've made us... . cut moderatore

all details that you can create in detail views or import them from dwg autocad if you had a library of details in pre-revit period

see that the "your" revit is not so immediate and must go fishing on a little program Smart (cf. gliommaro) as autocad.

8 decimals??? What are you doing?

it was to say that on revit you have to constantly check the measurements and the position of the building because "he", great intelligent program (he yes) to interpret you interprets you crap and you get high, maybe a little but you get high, what is very important in a job, that is precision.

a program that works with 8 decimals, moreover, gives me the confidence to work with accuracy even in topography, for example... .

You can also do it in revit... are all here your needs?

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Here's another one. but before complaining about the sub (which does not cost that figure, but 200 euros less!) did you at least ask for the benefits it offers? or do as my client who started complaining and as soon as I unleashed the main advantages began to say: "Well, I didn't know it was stuff... and how it works? "
every way I return to the first answer I gave you: happy you... !

I can show you how much I paid for revit and autocad together. cut moderatoreBut does it seem normal to pay for a program that is no longer used?!?? :mixed:

 

[lance]

@roberto
this discussion the cyclical representation on this and on other forums....:wink:.we understood, revit is not a program that fits your needs,mentality etc..nothing evil, at the bottom autocad is there for that, it is accurate generalist reliable....old macchinoso and long as hunger :smile:.detto this I do not understand why continue to insist that it is not a program suitable for architects
often underline that in revit the problems are always those....even your arguments.you don't know how to make families...to deal with the problem!a capable professional can't lock up in front of something like that.I personally keep a course of 3 days....not an eternity seems to me, and I avoid the topic quite deep.for the rest...if the problems are always those solutions:finger:

 

[roberto 2011]

@roberto
...I don't understand why you continue to insist that it is not a program suitable for architects geometries etc.

cut moderatoreIf there is still the freedom to express contrary and counter-current opinions, I will continue to underline the problems encountered by the actual use, not only educational-university, of this programme which is sold (and then with the obligation to pay always) even as the program that would erase autocad.. . all this is not true (they are many who have thrown it to the nettles), and it is so not true that you could almost get to a legal action for damages...

You don't know how to make families...to deal with the problem! a capable professional can't block himself in front of something like that. I personally hold a course of 3 days....not an eternity seems to me, and I avoid the theme deep enough.for the rest...if the problems are always those solutions:finger:

for the famous "families" I mean only to emphasize that there is no part of a blessed fava with the work of a professional technician. e.g. autocad blocks are simple design parts that do not require programming such as revit 'families'.

Why should I, should I, waste time planning suspending my business? If I buy, and I keep paying, a "signor" program, I should not have these impairments. or not?!?

this reasoning (one of the many "against" the use of revit), can weigh more or less on the basis of the diversity of the subjects concerned, but it cannot be denied that it exists.

 

[Tristan]

and you who are uncles to determine whether I have to be " content" or not... ?

I thought you were happy with your 8- decimal autocad (which by the record are just the ones that show you. actually works with much more decimal)

Here too you should have more respect for others that you don't know how much commitment they may have made us... but, is it wrong, or are you just a seller who knows very little about the problems of professionals?

Big mistake. I take care of assistance and training and how you can well imagine are what many times brings out from trouble professionals like you, or rather those like you who have not surrendered to the first difficulties.

see that the "your" revit is not so immediate and must go fishing on a little program Smart come autocad.

but you think it would have been Smart by autodesk propose products like autocad, autocad architecture and revit in a single suite without you being able to talk to each other?? the advantage of the suite is just this! and in my blog I wrote more than one post praising the interoperability between software.
If you want to miss 5 minutes of your precious time.. .http://ctrl-alt-cad.blogspot.com/search?q=interoperabilità

it was to say that on revit you have to constantly check the measurements and the position of the building because "he", great intelligent program (he yes) to interpret you interprets you crap and you get high, maybe a little but you get high, what is very important in a job, that is precision.

even autocad if you don't know how to use it correctly "pack you"

a program that works with 8 decimals, moreover, gives me the confidence to work with accuracy even in topography, for example... .

cut moderatorein topography (but you have to be really smart and have tools that allow you to do it) you can accurately detect millimeters and not more! cut moderatore
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But does it seem normal to pay for a program that is no longer used?!? ?

Absolutely not. money is yours, whatever you want; cut moderatore

 

[Tristan]

I will continue to emphasize the problems encountered with the true use, not only educational-university, of this program that is sold (and then with the obligation to pay always) even as the program that would erase autocad

Who says that? ?

all this is not true (they are many who have thrown it to the nettles), and it is so not true that you could almost get to a legal action for damages...

Who's stopping you?

for the famous "families" I mean only to emphasize that there is no part of a blessed fava with the work of a professional technician. e.g. autocad blocks are simple design parts that do not require programming such as revit 'families'.

Why should I, should I, waste time planning suspending my business? If I buy, and I keep paying, a "signor" program, I should not have these impairments. or not?!?

cut moderatore programming? families build themselves without writing a line of code!

 

[roberto 2011]

Big mistake. I take care of assistance and training...

Still, you're not a field designer.

but you think it would have been Smart by autodesk propose products like autocad, autocad architecture and revit in a single suite without you being able to talk to each other?? the advantage of the suite is this!

but where is this possibility of exchange? It is relatively simple and precise to introduce autocad elements in revit, not the contrary. then if first I have to do the work in autocad....

But then why do I need to go back to autocad? if at the end of the work I cannot dispose (I have arrived despite everything) to the famous table to be delivered to the commune or to the civil genius or to the superintendency, to what do I need to work in 3d?

even autocad if you don't know how to use it correctly "pack you"

If you don't know the difference between autocad and revit, I'd better let it go.


cut moderatore

 

[lance]

not only educational-university

here no one is talking about a use of this kind...in the same way I use every day revit in the world of contract doing a 360° job and forcing it also in not properly architectural. Let's face it with what revit is good only for the first stage design and not for the executives, as if it were a nice toy but when you work seriously..... on this and other professional forums, moderators and not so you can do it!

for the famous "families" I mean only to emphasize that there is no part of a blessed fava with the work of a professional technician. e.g. autocad blocks are simple design parts that do not require programming such as revit 'families'.

and the dynamic blocks of autocad what do they do?at the moment we expand the speech...and excel what does it do?but I think we all use it or not?
And then... do you have any idea what it means to plan? to use families the only thing you don't have to be is a programmer. They are a graphical way of creating objects...then if you want to continue drawing from scratch all modulations of free fixtures to do so....I prefer to change two parameters and get the same result.

Anyway, in my opinion, a discussion about... I work on the field and you're just a "theologist."...it's not meant to be very constructive, is it?