lory.b
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it's official, it came out vectorworks 2011, with many news!http://www.nemetschek.net/2011/ora, if avete domande I can rispondervi 
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epasinet
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Hello, lory.b!
I read all the pdf in English that announces the news but I couldn't grasp everything.
I realized that they introduced the push/pull tool that extrudes and pierces the sketchup. I really liked the new dynamic texturing system directly on the solid and enjoyed the speed of the new rendering engine that you can now define worthy. However, there was not much talk about the quality of rendering and materials that are the crucial aspect for a good rendering.
I did not understand if the long-awaited space tool will also be included in the ita version!? ! ?
I have not understood if now when creating a viewport elements constituted by the same material are founded (laminated loft type with laminated wall).
I couldn't understand much for the rest. .
thanks, enrico
I read all the pdf in English that announces the news but I couldn't grasp everything.
I realized that they introduced the push/pull tool that extrudes and pierces the sketchup. I really liked the new dynamic texturing system directly on the solid and enjoyed the speed of the new rendering engine that you can now define worthy. However, there was not much talk about the quality of rendering and materials that are the crucial aspect for a good rendering.
I did not understand if the long-awaited space tool will also be included in the ita version!? ! ?
I have not understood if now when creating a viewport elements constituted by the same material are founded (laminated loft type with laminated wall).
I couldn't understand much for the rest. .
thanks, enrico
lory.b
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push/pull was already there, they improved it.
the quality of renderings is high if one, of course, is able to use the settings correctly. We need to get a little bit out of it, but it's worth it. shaders obviously have them all converted, they are no longer those of the previous renderworks.
I can't tell you anything about the space object. on the space object in the international version, which is what I text, I can tell you that there have been several changes to meet the needs "bim".
the new slab object is totally different from the old floor.
as for the walls, even here it can be composed of layers of different materials that, yes, in the section adapt to the wall.
the walls in turn have a better management of the components, much more dynamic and logical than before.
I do.
the quality of renderings is high if one, of course, is able to use the settings correctly. We need to get a little bit out of it, but it's worth it. shaders obviously have them all converted, they are no longer those of the previous renderworks.
I can't tell you anything about the space object. on the space object in the international version, which is what I text, I can tell you that there have been several changes to meet the needs "bim".
the new slab object is totally different from the old floor.
as for the walls, even here it can be composed of layers of different materials that, yes, in the section adapt to the wall.
the walls in turn have a better management of the components, much more dynamic and logical than before.
I do.
epasinet
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thank you lory! kind as always.
now I have seen that both videocom and vectorworks.it have published the news translated into English. it seems that this 2011 brings great general improvements but above all a greater integration between 2d and 3d, amazing!
I strongly hope that they carry the instrument space object also in the version ita because for a bim it is indispensable and it is absurd that they do not want to locate it.
Thanks again
pla
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the space tool is also present in the 2011 version in Italian and the walls now have 3d layers that merge with the new objects "solar", also equipped with 3d layers. keep in mind that vectorworks is now one of the very few bim class cads that have walls with solid layers: even produced as revit and archicad, which have layers of walls for many years, do not handle them in a solid way, but in faces.
the news of the 2011 version are really many, first among all the possibility to draw objects 2d on any arbitrary plan, with possibility of sampling and quotations: It is something that in vw had never been able to do. Perhaps to you it seems obvious, but for us long-standing users it is a real epochal change.
for a list of news, you can download the pdf from this link:http://www.vectorworks2011.it/documentazioni/vw2011_new.pdf
the news of the 2011 version are really many, first among all the possibility to draw objects 2d on any arbitrary plan, with possibility of sampling and quotations: It is something that in vw had never been able to do. Perhaps to you it seems obvious, but for us long-standing users it is a real epochal change.
for a list of news, you can download the pdf from this link:http://www.vectorworks2011.it/documentazioni/vw2011_new.pdf
epasinet
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great pla, thanks for the info!
vectorworks 2011 is beautiful and I look forward to being able to buy the license ita!!!! Now that I confirm that the space tool is included is not true! for me it is now, it is the bim for reference architecture! I hope it's the good time you take off on the market, if it deserves nemetshek first and videocom then.... !
vectorworks 2011 is beautiful and I look forward to being able to buy the license ita!!!! Now that I confirm that the space tool is included is not true! for me it is now, it is the bim for reference architecture! I hope it's the good time you take off on the market, if it deserves nemetshek first and videocom then.... !
Marcogeo
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apart from being quite popular as software I do not see a close relationship between maximum diffusion and product. I don't think there's a danger of seeing our cad disappear and I don't think that even more diffusion would lead to era changes in the software. I believe that development would maintain the same gait.
pla
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In fact, I do not know how epasinet can evaluate the spread of vw compared to other cads - in fact the official figures of the nemetschek group speak clearly:
allplan = 60,000 users
archicad = 100,000 users
vectorworks = 450.000 users
perhaps in Italy vectorworks users are less active than those of other cad, but it is not that the product is unknown or unused.
that then in a country is used or not, does not change a comma than those that are its properties or its functions.
allplan = 60,000 users
archicad = 100,000 users
vectorworks = 450.000 users
perhaps in Italy vectorworks users are less active than those of other cad, but it is not that the product is unknown or unused.
that then in a country is used or not, does not change a comma than those that are its properties or its functions.
epasinet
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Hello, gfrank.
I believe that the difference consists in the fact that when in vectorworks do a wall or a layered loft this will be composed of solid layers so if the sections in any direction you will always see the correct wall dissected as it is really so composed the 3d model. in archicad and beautiful company instead the stratification of walls and floors is "emulated" with retinals or restraints in the 2d drawings generated by the 3d model. For example if you want to make a single in archicad consisting of different layers sectionable in 3d, I assume that you should overcome more alone, each one representing a layer of composition while in vectorworks 2011 this happens automatically when you decide the stratification before creating an element. this should bring to vectorworks the advantage that layers belonging to different elements can merge if they are of the same material when creating two-dimensional drawings from the model what in vectorworks 2010 could not be done.
I hope I have understood right but correct me.
Marcogeo
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I didn't test the question I'm about to ask you. is it possible to view (and then print) the walls or the layers in the classic way (i.e. with the only two lines)? ?
epasinet
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Sure, if I do not confuse with archicad, I think in vectorworks you can choose in the settings a "limit" scale beyond which the stratification is displayed and under which the walls are simplified with the only two "perimetral" lines.
confirmed boys?
confirmed boys?
lory.b
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Yes, it is not mandatory to have components in the walls and in the loft.
however, these components are managed through classes; then in viewports you just need to edit the classes to make sure that they are not displayed and printed.
I do.
however, these components are managed through classes; then in viewports you just need to edit the classes to make sure that they are not displayed and printed.
I do.
gfrank
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Thank you, now I understand....
in the other archethetonic sw of the autodesk the function for the fusion of layers of the same material (in the walls and in the floors) between them and with other elements (architectonic pillars) is already present, as it is possible (in the walls) to limit the heights of the individual layers (e.g. to scale progressively - e.g.: the coating of a local bathroom), or to turn them in presence of doors and windows. . .
all also in 3d
This proprety has been present in the sw for at least 7/8 years if I am not mistaken.
On the other hand, looking at the broschure of vw seems to me to have seen the possibility of representing (particular) the wall by means of the "cutting" of the individual layers in 3d, that is to see the representation of the staggered layers:
- detached between them in a transversal sense;
- on different levels vertically. . .
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lory.b
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the components of the wall live on different classes (equivalent in vw of acad layers); so I can turn off or change the display individually. if I want to print the simple walls as a double line (let's have to print at 200).
the layers can have a vertical offset than the adjacent one; can come together in the view in the plant so as to close the head of the wall.
I do.
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epasinet
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Great lory! are amazing the magheggi you can do with vectorworks!!
However, to avoid confusion to Italian users, the English version classes are the categories in the Italian version.
when opening in vectorworks a dwg file created with autocad, its layers with all their properties will be perfectly matched as categories.
However, to avoid confusion to Italian users, the English version classes are the categories in the Italian version.
when opening in vectorworks a dwg file created with autocad, its layers with all their properties will be perfectly matched as categories.
lory.b
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Yeah, I know. It is that for 14 years I use it in English... :
giùgiù
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hi lory.b, with the English version of vectorworks you encountered problems with American standards, especially with the bim use of the architecture version? I wonder why I'm undecided to buy the English or Italian version. In general I am more comfortable using software in English, also vectorworks in English costs even much less. Thank you!
lory.b
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Hi.
No, there's no problem. vw is a very adaptable software. In addition many objects are already present in one version.
The only thing that you beat on is that you can have more configurability than doors/windows. the latter from them open outwards so we have to insert them into the walls on the contrary.... Anyway, I suggest you try the demo of the international version, so you can get a more precise idea.
I also prefer to use software in the original language. there is little to do, but certain terms translated into Italian sound really bad! ;-)
I do.
No, there's no problem. vw is a very adaptable software. In addition many objects are already present in one version.
The only thing that you beat on is that you can have more configurability than doors/windows. the latter from them open outwards so we have to insert them into the walls on the contrary.... Anyway, I suggest you try the demo of the international version, so you can get a more precise idea.
I also prefer to use software in the original language. there is little to do, but certain terms translated into Italian sound really bad! ;-)
I do.
giùgiù
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thanks lory.b, in fact I am using the international trial to learn the basics, but in 30 days (considering that I do not spend all day studying vectorworks) I think it does just in time to take familiarity with the commands of the fundamental, then I will try to ask for an extension of the trial.
the Italian version is advertised as "version with wide range of improvements and upgrades", the international version you bought it from videocom or some other European distributor? Hello and thank you
the Italian version is advertised as "version with wide range of improvements and upgrades", the international version you bought it from videocom or some other European distributor? Hello and thank you