rototranslating an object into space

[fast]

software version : autocad 2012

Good evening to all,
I have an object, specifically a road section. such section is drawn in the xy plan.
in another file I have the planimetry with the coordinates east and north (the x and y).

Therefore if of every point I want to know the coordinates 3d, I must go to read on the planimetry the east and the north, while on the section the quota.

what I want to do is this : to cross the section into the space so that by clicking each point can read the east (x), the north , the quota (z).

I would like to proceed as follows:
1)roll the section over the xy plan, so have the same with the quotas along the z axis, and not along the y axis as drawn.
2)roll the section (in the xy plan) so that the points of the same coincide with those of the planimetry.
3) raise everything at altitude (long z).

I do not know how to proceed, in fact I am still at point 1.

I would also like to automate everything.

 

[Tristan]

test with the command line

 

[fast]

the command aligns perfectly. :biggrin:

Even if I don't understand the difference between true and true3d, I think they do the same thing.

having the design in two files, how do I copy and keep in memory the coordinates of the destination of the point?
I'll explain better.
the command aligns the use on the file of the section, clicking the first point of the section and giving it the coordinates of the destination point (which I take from the other file of the planimetry), clicking the second point, and gave it the second coordinates, then clicking the third and autocad rototrasla.

the problem lies in the fact that the destination points I have to type them by hand, having the layout on another file. Is there a command that records me in the memory the coordinates of the clicked point so that you can then paste it (modifying the odds) , dynamically?

 

[Tristan]

Yes, they are absolutely analogous except a couple of finesses... but don't you first "unite" the two files?

 

[fast]

I joined the two files, like you said.
for each section I created a block, so to find it after the rototranslation in that jungle of lines.

to make the rototranslation I use three common points to the track and section and the same rototrasla.

now I have the problem that such points are not at altitude, I would need a system that gave me the possibility to take x and y when I click the destination point and to type the quota by hand.

I could bring the destination points to altitude before running the command line, but being some points on the same z I would have trouble selecting the right one.

 

[Ezio Olivato]

you could put on a specific layer the elements not to move and then after freezing it, operate on the blocks to move.

 

[fast]

I attach an image to better explain the situation.

I indicated with the yellow balls the destination points.

so point 1 of the planimetry must go to point 1 of section, point 2 of the planimetry must go to point 2 of section, point 3 of the planimetry must go to point 3 of section.
ps point 3 only serves to define the section plan.

the problem of practical character is that when I click on point 1 of the section, its omologist in the plant does not have a quota and then refers to the point at zero altitude. If I tried to assign a quota in advance, I would find myself with point 1 and point 3 on the same z and therefore not easily selectable.

what I would like to know is whether it was possible during the command line select point 1 in section, then select point 1 in the plant and let a window appear so that I can assign the quota manually, the same for points 2 and 3.

in practice with the click on the point, autocad you should take the x and y and should ask me to enter the z.

Thanks :finger:

 

[Tristan]

in practice with the click on the point, autocad you should take the x and y and should ask me to enter the z.

you can do it with coordinate filters (.xy)

 

[fast]

you can do it with coordinate filters (.xy)

thanks:finger::finger:
, wanting you could put the state [RISOLTO]:mixed: