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[TECNOMODEL]

you can discuss whether you have integrated or not the software falls into the cam and the advantages or disadvantages that you can have.. But I think it is a priority to talk about the choice of the cam system according to the processes and details that characterize the production. in my opinion visi and solidcam I see them well in the mold sector with complex surfaces but for 2.5 ax and 3 ax machining for relatively simple details there are other software such as rhinocam the autodesk suites and other products also of the true!!! 2 point people and assistance must have a good team for assistance especially for the automation of post-processors. lucisimo six abruzzese I am of part in the judgment because I am a commercial technician in auton systems the main distributor esprit cam in Italy, we opened a seat to chieti with a technician and a commercial if I can be useful to you to evaluate this solution this is our site www.autonsistemi.it

I understand that you, selling a product, want to push it.
by curiosity, could you list the alleged disadvantages that there would be with an integrated cam in the software with which you plan?

 

[jacopo.villani@bridgecam.]

Just pull the water to your mill, but I agree with you only partially. just that the cam has the necessary features, but being able to choose between more products the integrated solution wins at low hands. even if geometries of @lucisimo were the maximum of simplicity (and they are usually simple only when you reason in abstract, then they complicate, and then as!) the fact of moving them from one environment to another always presents incognite. then wanting to take into account the revisions of the project, we imagine to change some quota to the piece, which in a solid modeler often happens, solidcam recognizes the variation and signals, updating the selection of the geometries.
As for how you see visi and solidcam you should review the information you have available. I don't know him, I know he's got a history in the automotive, but I don't know anymore. Solidcam is a modular system that can be cut out for customer needs, from 2.5x to 5x milling, turning, milling turning, swiss machining and more.
if you @lucisimo know solidcam I guess he's already had contact with them directly. . .

hi syrup see that solidcam is a good product as well as can be esprit and other real products that would be much more indicated for this type of processing.

But let us remember that with solidcam you are obliged to buy solidworks that I mean is not the only cad in circulation.
the integrated solution is not always winning otherwise it would not explain why I sell to customers who already have solidcam or solidworks.
cmq also in esprit the association allows any change to cad to be heard and that all the paths are recalculated on the new modification.
beyond this it is possible to change the machine in course of work even with different kinematics without having to reschedule from head.
In my opinion it is not pertinent to say that solidcam is modular in the background is asking what are the cams that work well for processing 2.5 and 3ax and there is no better way than seeing them here there is a webinar made by my technician https://jwp.io/s/lmpvagls I hope it can serve to see the logic of esprit

 

[lucisimo]

Bye to all,
Thank you all for the answers.

But let us remember that with solidcam you are obliged to buy solidworks that I mean is not the only cad in circulation.

I want to point out that we already have solidworks and solidworks simulation licenses in the company, here is one of the reasons why we are evaluating solidcam among the options.
As it is the first time we approach the world cam, before making an investment we are making our assessments. That is why I am addressing you users of the forum who, based on your experience, you know how to give me tips and suggestions (also related to any strengths and limits).
The two solutions I mentioned (visits and solidcams) come out of the fact that, as I said, there were proposals from our partners, but we are also open to the evaluation of other solutions, we would miss.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

hi syrup see that solidcam is a good product as well as can be esprit and other real products that would be much more indicated for this type of processing.

But let us remember that with solidcam you are obliged to buy solidworks that I mean is not the only cad in circulation.
the integrated solution is not always winning otherwise it would not explain why I sell to customers who already have solidcam or solidworks.
cmq also in esprit the association allows any change to cad to be heard and that all the paths are recalculated on the new modification.
beyond this it is possible to change the machine in course of work even with different kinematics without having to reschedule from head.
In my opinion it is not pertinent to say that solidcam is modular in the background is asking what are the cams that work well for processing 2.5 and 3ax and there is no better way than seeing them here there is a webinar made by my technician https://jwp.io/s/lmpvagls I hope it can serve to see the logic of esprit

the suggestion came from the fact that they already use solidworks, otherwise it would not have made any sense.
I remain of the idea that if you have a cad that has a good cam module suitable for the work that you do is always the best choice.

 

[jacopo.villani@bridgecam.]

Bye to all,
Thank you all for the answers.

I want to point out that we already have solidworks and solidworks simulation licenses in the company, here is one of the reasons why we are evaluating solidcam among the options.
As it is the first time we approach the world cam, before making an investment we are making our assessments. That is why I am addressing you users of the forum who, based on your experience, you know how to give me tips and suggestions (also related to any strengths and limits).
The two solutions I mentioned (visits and solidcams) come out of the fact that, as I said, there were proposals from our partners, but we are also open to the evaluation of other solutions, we would miss.

then it is wise to evaluate solidcam that I repeat is a good product and that has the value of being an add-in of solidworks.
but it is equally wise to evaluate alternative solutions. if you leave me an email address I communicate with some esprit user
or with my technician for a demonstration without obligation. This is my address jacopo.villani@autonsistemi.it

 

[jacopo.villani@bridgecam.]

even to talk about it.... if you don't have a cam yet, so you have to start from scratch, you already use solidworks to build your models... the answer is discounted, for the reasons mentioned above that I share in full.
user word hypermill!

a hypermill user that recommends solidcam only because you already have interesting solidworks. .

 

[stevie]

If you don't want to become mad behind Pakistani cams with learning biblical curves I recommend you visualmill or featurecam

 

[jacopo.villani@bridgecam.]

I understand that you, selling a product, want to push it.
by curiosity, could you list the alleged disadvantages that there would be with an integrated cam in the software with which you plan?

for example if you are looking for a cam solution why you have to buy a cad that you already own? or why do you have to associate with a cad station also the cam and upgrade by force both? If you have a technical office and the workshop why should they use all the same tools? how many cad functions you use in the cam part, do you really need all solidworks to schedule milling operations? in automotive and other sectors have as design catià and plan with tebis esprit toptron without touching the cad part of each, why? because the integrated solution is not everything and why every product is good a certain job. Now I ask you the question, what competitive advantages do you have with solidcam compared to other cam systems if all other systems rely on the same routine supplier of processing and simulations developed by moduleworks?

 

[teseo]

I'm starting a collaboration, so I still know little. for now I have 3d from solidworks already made from which to pull out the posts with the cam. trimmings 3 axes control fanuc, if not erro.

hi if you have solidworks, now they give the cam 2.5 axes(also has 3 axes work) free (in the sense that it is already included in the cad) I just started using it and I can tell you that I am good, sure then there are the spatial ones but everything depends on what you have to do.... .

Hi.

 

[teseo]

Sorry I didn't read all the posts but this and my opinion too.... .

 

[TECNOMODEL]

for example if you are looking for a cam solution why you have to buy a cad that you already own? or why do you have to associate with a cad station also the cam and upgrade by force both? If you have a technical office and the workshop why should they use all the same tools? how many cad functions you use in the cam part, do you really need all solidworks to schedule milling operations? in automotive and other sectors have as design catià and plan with tebis esprit toptron without touching the cad part of each, why? because the integrated solution is not everything and why every product is good a certain job. Now I ask you the question, what competitive advantages do you have with solidcam compared to other cam systems if all other systems rely on the same routine supplier of processing and simulations developed by moduleworks?

you make a general speech that has its motivations, here we were talking about a specific case, of a company that already has the solidworks licenses inside it, knows how to use that cad, so the learning curve will be shorter, you can interface with the same supplier to ambe things simplifying everything.
Moreover you will not find in the situation where the supplier falls will give the "colp" of something to the cam, while the provider cam will do the reverse.
with regard to the example of the automotive sector, the reason why they adopt that strategy is clear.
First of all it is an area where the cad is often imposed by the clients, according to the systems that mention or do not have the cad or have a much lower than cai.

 

[jacopo.villani@bridgecam.]

you make a general speech that has its motivations, here we were talking about a specific case, of a company that already has the solidworks licenses inside it, knows how to use that cad, so the learning curve will be shorter, you can interface with the same supplier to ambe things simplifying everything.
Moreover you will not find in the situation where the supplier falls will give the "colp" of something to the cam, while the provider cam will do the reverse.
with regard to the example of the automotive sector, the reason why they adopt that strategy is clear.
First of all it is an area where the cad is often imposed by the clients, according to the systems that mention or do not have the cad or have a much lower than cai.

In all of the

 

[Kekkone]

a hypermill user that recommends solidcam only because you already have interesting solidworks. .

I gave this advice for the reasons explained above by me and also by other colleagues, it is clear that I would not change the system I use, with solidcam, at least with others...... .

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

In my opinion it is not pertinent to say that solidcam is modular in the background is asking what are the cams that work well for processing 2.5 and 3ax and there is no better way than seeing them here there is a webinar made by my technician https://jwp.io/s/lmpvagls I hope it can serve to see the logic of esprit

ciao @jacopo.villani@bridgecam. I think you didn't understand the meaning of what I wrote earlier.
you had written:

in my opinion I see them well in the mould sector with complex surfaces but for 2.5 ax and 3 ax machining for relatively simple details there are other software

so I write

Solidcam is a modular system that can be cut out for customer needs, from 2.5x to 5x milling, turning, milling turning, swiss machining and more.

I meant that solidcam can be configured to sell to the customer only what it needs, so even without complex surfaces.

Allow me to report also the registration of a couple of webinars held recently for the processing of simple details:

2.5d milling

imachining for high efficiency milling

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

@tecnomodel : solidcam is not the solidworks cam.
the cam of solidworks is called solidworks cam, and if I don't remember badly, it is the old camworks that was absorbed by solidworks. solidcam is a third-party product that has been developed to integrate with solidworks.

to say that there are other cams working in combination with solidworks, and visi and esprit are two of them.

integration is not the same for all. there are partner products and gold partner products.

visi esprit are partner products, that is, load the native geometric data of solidworks in their respective environments.

solidcam, the fu camworks and hypermill, being gold partners operate entirely in the context of the cad, both as a geometric environment and as a user interface.

then the choice between one or another can be made for the most diverse reasons: types of products to work, types of processing, training and assistance services, price...

 

[Horizon]

Hi, guys, I found this discussion and I put myself in. I make the designer, and I only have a vague idea of mechanical processing. I worked when I went to school in the summer months on alesatrici but I never planned. I come to this point: for personal passion I would like to start studying something about the fanuc language and apply it to esprit. are of the solidworks world as a designer. you know how to tell me about lessons on the internet regarding esprit, a course or to read or see. Someone who can give me some tips is there? Thank you!

 

[Kekkone]

hi horizon, so to begin with it is not fanuc that applies to esprit, if not the opposite.
from a network search of 10 seconds came out this:

https://www.google. com/url?q=https...qtwj6bagjeaeae&usg=aovvaw273a5lzbwavqvqvqvd2d

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...uqfnoecaiqag&usg=aovvaw13roesbupi3pbfnoynqvde

Just look for a little and you find good material, what matters is the time you spend on trying and learning.
Good job!

 

[Horizon]

Thank you! I'm starting from 0 in everything. I remember vaguely g0 g1 m3 m4 m5 what they mean. the rest is total darkness.

 

[Stefano_GS]

you are mixing two different things:
- cam is tied to specific skills in terms of machining, tool choice, work strategy choice, choice cutting parameters. all these choices you must consider them not as something valid "in absolute" but to be evaluated from time to time according to the pieces to work, to the machines available to be able to do it, to the batches of production.
with the cam determines the tool path in a virtual way, there will then be a post-processor that translates the path first determined in "instructions" for the tool machine according to the control that it adopts

- programming notions. these depend on the type of control you are using (fanuc, hidenam, selca, etc.). serve to write the instruction code for the machine tool without going through the cam. obviously having a base serves to those who develop the paths with the cam

I'm not like you've come to determine fanuc and esprit. for fanuc you find on the net of all levels, do you have a machine with which you can verify the written code?
esprit something you find, you could try to hear a dealer for a course and license. to implement it then you will need a regular license and post-processor for the machine (which you have determined to have fanuc)