side lifting tape

[deep70]

Hello everyone,
Can any of you give me some advice on how to turn this tape sideways mechanically? (see images) I had thought of a motor with its shaft placed longitudinally, but the tape and long 9000mm and 1000mm wide seems to me difficult to realize precisely given the size and weight. I think it's crazy. .
I have to raise him in one side... and as soon as possible. .
thanks to all for your advice. .

 

[Exatem]

Hello everyone,
Can any of you give me some advice on how to turn this tape sideways mechanically? (see images) I had thought of a motor with its shaft placed longitudinally, but the tape and long 9000mm and 1000mm wide seems to me difficult to realize precisely given the size and weight. I think it's crazy. .
I have to raise him in one side... and as soon as possible. .
thanks to all for your advice. .

but all the tape must be overturned by 90°? When?
It is not clear to me if the tipping should take place at a certain time.
What are we talking about?

 

[cacciatorino]

try to look at the tippers of the trucks for earth movement, maybe find some interesting point.

 

[deep70]

but all the tape must be overturned by 90°? When?
It is not clear to me if the tipping should take place at a certain time.
What are we talking about?

Yes, everything. is tipped when not used.. No, it's part of a work phase. in practice only for reasons of encumbrance. .
weight? about 350kg.

 

[Exatem]

Yes, everything. is tipped when not used.. No, it's part of a work phase. in practice only for reasons of encumbrance. .
weight? about 350kg.

then a linear actuator. it is up to you to see if eleltric, pneumatic or hydraulic.

 

[deep70]

try to look at the tippers of the trucks for earth movement, maybe find some interesting point.

I thought about it, too. but in this way the telescopic cylinders would occupy a lot of place.. just what they don't want. .

 

[deep70]

then a linear actuator. it is up to you to see if eleltric, pneumatic or hydraulic.

I apologize for my ignorance about exatem.. Could you show me a visual example of the actuator? or some sites where there is something like this. . ?
Thank you...

 

[sampom]

. but in this way the telescopic cylinders would occupy a lot of place.. .

It is not said.. in 1 mt wide with cinematism and well-placed attacks can make them stand "easily" under the tape plane, inside the encumbrance of the whole structure.
Just build the "plane" so that it is sufficiently rigid.

greetings
Mar

 

[sampom]

I apologize for my ignorance about exatem.. Could you show me a visual example of the actuator? or some sites where there is something like this. . ?
Thank you...

these are short, but to take a cue:http://www.gortani.com/contenuti/allegati/14_carri_raccolta_uva_ita_lr_24_italiano.pdfhttp://www.italcaronline.it/ribaltabili-per-agricoli.htmlfor hydraulic actuators/cylinders and not, do a google search, find a tide.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[sampom]

I have to raise him in one side... and as soon as possible. .
. .

is the transporter already done? (in case it would be to see how the whole set is)

However, even if you want to do it with an obvious tree that will not be in single piece of 9 mt. there will be joints and supports.

and if you could move the rotation axis centrally instead of on the side you would decrease the pairs in play and the encumbrance once opened. and also the "balance".

greetings
Mar

 

[cacciatorino]

It is not said.. in 1 mt wide with cinematism and well-placed attacks can make them stand "easily" under the tape plane, inside the encumbrance of the whole structure.
Just build the "plane" so that it is sufficiently rigid.

greetings
Mar

Something like that in practice... .

be patient but today we use ms-paint to design. . . .

 

[Exatem]

I apologize for my ignorance about exatem.. Could you show me a visual example of the actuator? or some sites where there is something like this. . ?
Thank you...

these are short, but to take a cue:http://www.gortani.com/contenuti/allegati/14_carri_raccolta_uva_ita_lr_24_italiano.pdfhttp://www.italcaronline.it/ribaltabili-per-agricoli.htmlfor hydraulic actuators/cylinders and not, do a google search, find a tide.

greetings
Marco:smile:

as sam said, google and find a tide. At the moment I come to mind as a simpler solution.

 

[sampom]

Something like that in practice... .

About. .
perhaps with the cylinder tipped (and point of attack more towards the fulcrum; even if it will serve a greater force) or with the zipper at the lower thigh. in that position you make it work very badly, indeed, I doubt that "in fact" the "reultant" can lift it. more likely to hold him in closed position.. but being in paint we give you the approximation:biggrin:

be patient but today we use ms-paint to design. . . .

azz.. !
at the first glance I thought it was your last "exercises" with swx (a prop, solved everything? )

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[Exatem]

Something like that in practice... .

be patient but today we use ms-paint to design. . . .

but yes, something like that, you should see in detail the structure... However congratulations for the mastery of that ostico soft...:biggrin:

 

[deep70]

hello guys thank you all for the valuable data advice, you are very helpful and kind, again thanks 100000000000.. returning to us what do you think of something like that? ?

 

[lelepanz]

Something like that in practice... .

be patient but today we use ms-paint to design. . . .

we use them often for the loading-unloading tables glass plates.
but we have an opening of about 80°.
to open 90° the whole, once I did some tests so to delight and it was ardent.
if however it is good for him to break only 80-83° is a perfect solution.

About. .
perhaps with the cylinder tipped (and point of attack more towards the fulcrum; even if it will serve a greater force) or with the zipper at the lower thigh. in that position you make it work very badly, indeed, I doubt that "in fact" the "reultant" can lift it. more likely to hold him in closed position.. but being in paint we give you the approximation:biggrin:


azz.. !
at the first glance I thought it was your last "exercises" with swx (a prop, solved everything? )

greetings
Marco:smile:

If "rebalt" the cylinder, the back zipper of the same ... could end up out maximum encumbrance. It is necessary to see if it is there or not ... depends on the size of the whole.
If you attack the front fork closer to the pivot pin you can stay inside but you need to "oversize" everything (to say maybe you will have to put a cylinder from 80 instead of da50 for example). even if in this case (as in the other) you can rotate the whole 90°.

hello guys thank you all for the valuable data advice, you are very helpful and kind, again thanks 100000000000.. returning to us what do you think of something like that? ?

I honestly don't know what that trigger is. :
If you have to put it so the cylinder, don't you want to use a lever so you can multiply the thrust?
in the fulcrum we "attach" a fin... that goes down.
you need to see if you have "space below". because if you don't have space under the cylinder I see it hard ... maybe better put a tree - pinion and rack for example...

ps : so the cylinder works in shooting ... has less strength when you need more (i.e. raising the pallet).

 

[deep70]

we use them often for the loading-unloading tables glass plates.
but we have an opening of about 80°.
to open 90° the whole, once I did some tests so to delight and it was ardent.
if however it is good for him to break only 80-83° is a perfect solution.



If "rebalt" the cylinder, the back zipper of the same ... could end up out maximum encumbrance. It is necessary to see if it is there or not ... depends on the size of the whole.
If you attack the front fork closer to the pivot pin you can stay inside but you need to "oversize" everything (to say maybe you will have to put a cylinder from 80 instead of da50 for example). even if in this case (as in the other) you can rotate the whole 90°.



I honestly don't know what that trigger is. :
If you have to put it so the cylinder, don't you want to use a lever so you can multiply the thrust?
in the fulcrum we "attach" a fin... that goes down.
you need to see if you have "space below". because if you don't have space under the cylinder I see it hard ... maybe better put a tree - pinion and rack for example...

ps : so the cylinder works in shooting ... has less strength when you need more (i.e. raising the pallet).

thanks to all for the answers,
in case of the solution with the cylinder I also think I am better overturned and with the lever closer to the pin...
instead for what concerns the solution with tree - pinion and rack you mean, as longitudinal positioning to the tape? ?

 

[MFT]

thanks to all for the answers,
in case of the solution with the cylinder I also think I am better overturned and with the lever closer to the pin...
instead for what concerns the solution with tree - pinion and rack you mean, as longitudinal positioning to the tape? ?

I answer here, as colleagues have suggested are all excellent solutions sure is that as they have already pointed out the cylinder you have to make an arm because so close to the hinge is hard, then it is always better to push with the load and not to pull. I had done something like that for a roller coaster that had to download bars but I had put a head reducer that turned the tree that hinges the roller coaster wanted it so.

 

[deep70]

I answer here, as colleagues have suggested are all excellent solutions sure is that as they have already pointed out the cylinder you have to make an arm because so close to the hinge is hard, then it is always better to push with the load and not to pull. I had done something like that for a roller coaster that had to download bars but I had put a head reducer that turned the tree that hinges the roller coaster wanted it so.

thanks for the dirotec answer,
Could you make me a quick sketch so you can better understand the concept? I hope not to ask you too much.. Sure when you have two minutes. .
Thanks again.