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skf counterfeit material

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I apologize if I place the news in this way, if you think you move it or delete it because not properly posted you do as well. :finger:
I wanted to bring to the attention of all news that I find really particular, having never read anything about it, I refer to the counterfeiting of mechanical material, for precision of ball bearings.

place the link to view the yellow flame footage:
caserta - the finance guard of caserta has subjected to seizure, in several localized deposits at home (caserta), about 180.000 bearings turned
http://www.youreporter.it/video_caserta_falsi_cuscinetti_a_sfera_skf_1
 
look has already happened in the past because I had already read such news in magazines specialized as mechanical magazine today (rmo) and mechanical technologies and of course the thing makes to think a lot. . .
 
often happens in industrial supplies.
told me a commercial subscribe that some customers sent in repair some plc, branded subscribe, that however abb had never sold. . .
 
It's very serious.
I hope the counterfeit is limited to ball bearings.
mounting that type of bearings to its own unconscious, can create very serious damage to the plants, and to the people who operate there.
 
excuse the question from sink, but how can you recognize an original bearing from a counterfeit?

Thanks :finger:
 
Iceman91 said:
excuse the question from sink, but how can you recognize an original bearing from a counterfeit?

Thanks :finger:
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I don't think I've ever seen it (I hope I haven't used it), but probably an excessively low price, "out of the market", could give you a thought.
even if with bearings is a mess because in addition to the list the purchase prices are "foreign"; on certain items some retailers arrive at discounts of 70%! I have a flea in my ear now.

greetings
Mar
 
Hi guys, first of all I'm happy I didn't create problems at the forum by wronging something, as I usually do. :rolleyes: I am pleased that the subject has involved others, apparently I am not the only one who feels astonishment in relation to such news.

I would like to add a question that I think, pernea on the subject, I would say fundamental to get into the problem, to which I really cannot answer, I hope you can help me.

are we talking about counterfeiting, product falsification only because it was not produced by skf or why not contruded according to technical criteria?

In short, those who produce such articles, certainly do not have a sewing machine in the understairs, we need huge industrial machinery, scientific knowledge not indifferent, metric controls, personnel in short, millions of euros invested for what?
to counterfeit bearings? :mad:

certainly this counterfeit product does not have the quality of skf but it is not even made of pongo.

There's something wrong with me. :confused:
 
syfer said:
Hi guys, first of all I'm happy I didn't create problems at the forum by wronging something, as I usually do. :rolleyes: I am pleased that the subject has involved others, apparently I am not the only one who feels astonishment in relation to such news.

I would like to add a question that I think, pernea on the subject, I would say fundamental to get into the problem, to which I really cannot answer, I hope you can help me.

are we talking about counterfeiting, product falsification only because it was not produced by skf or why not contruded according to technical criteria?

In short, those who produce such articles, certainly do not have a sewing machine in the understairs, we need huge industrial machinery, scientific knowledge not indifferent, metric controls, personnel in short, millions of euros invested for what?
to counterfeit bearings? :mad:

certainly this counterfeit product does not have the quality of skf but it is not even made of pongo.

There's something wrong with me. :confused:
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counterfeiting is not synonymous with poor quality.
in my home town you counterfeit at every corner of the street, and I can assure you in some cases, the counterfeit product is better than the original.

Of course if skf, or adidas, spend millions in advertising to make a name, and I, cutting such fixed costs I sell exploiting their name, running into the crime of counterfeiting.

who also purchases can not do the due quality controls, trusting the name.

That's the point.

The plc I mentioned earlier worked for years before they found out they were counterfeit. and there the problem maybe was even greater than the bearings. some of those plcs managed emergency sequences in a steel mill. . .
 
some bearings are sold over 90% on the price list. there are regenerated bearings that cost practically nothing. I believe that here the question is that they are marked skf but in reality the brand is counterfeit (and therefore also quality).
I had a little bearing experience a few years ago. It's a bit like the brand, if you know the subject, I'd say you can figure out whether they're original or not.
 
syfer said:
Turns out I'm not the only one who feels astonishment in front of such news.
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No wonder, anything else.
In fact it would be strange the opposite.. of good times. I'm waiting for everything and I'm not surprised at anything.
syfer said:
I would like to add a question that I think, pernea on the subject, I would say fundamental to get into the problem, to which I really cannot answer, I hope you can help me.

are we talking about counterfeiting, product falsification only because it was not produced by skf or why not contruded according to technical criteria?

In short, those who produce such articles, certainly do not have a sewing machine in the understairs, we need huge industrial machinery, scientific knowledge not indifferent, metric controls, personnel in short, millions of euros invested for what?
to counterfeit bearings? :mad:

certainly this counterfeit product does not have the quality of skf but it is not even made of pongo.

There's something wrong with me. :confused:
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but you know, the same production lines can provide different qualities of the same object. especially since the productions are made by thirdists outside the mother house there can be "parallel catalogues". with the east and the wool in particular is a "normal" thing.
in the same plants you can use both "certified raw materials" and responding to the design characteristics that waste junk. the result "exthetical" is the same:smile:. the robber bbuona goes to the warehouses skf (or who for it), the rest turns the world for other channels.

counterfeiting apart there has always been a market of original technical products but "rubati" (more or less consciously). The whole robbery on the highway has always happened.

greetings
Mar
 
gerod said:
some bearings are sold over 90% on the price list. there are regenerated bearings that cost practically nothing. I believe that here the question is that they are marked skf but in reality the brand is counterfeit (and therefore also quality).
I had a little bearing experience a few years ago. It's a bit like the brand, if you know the subject, I'd say you can figure out whether they're original or not.
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> counterfeit by cynas as china esport is a shame most of those who buy see and think both of Community rules :frown:
 

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