still on estimates

[radiosity]

hello to all, I know that it is an aroment already treated, but the problem of quotes torments me....voi how you adjust. It is always difficult to make a competitive price. ...
I wanted to propose an idea....
What do you say if we make known scenes, like those of evermotion, and everyone "does the quote" to make such a rendering?
Thus, indicating delivery times, open prices, (if we want an animation) and the Italian zone of belonging, could we make an idea of the market so as to always make correct and competitive prices? What do you say? placed the pictures?

 

[lattu]

I rule at hours and I'm hardly wrong. Of course I always consider an extra that I then value if to remove or not. in the 5 years I have had to regularly lower the shot (especially in the last two years) but can be calibrated by client to customer. we say that it is good norm to try to smell how much one could be willing to drop, it is difficult to keep the same line with everyone (or at least for me it is so).

 

[radiosity]

the problem is that if you count the hours, and you meet a furniture to model and it makes you lose 5 hours, how do you manage? I in the last 10 years of 3dmax I increased the prices until 2008 and then left them meadow unchanged. ..say that in order to make a render less than 200€ at sight you should not go..in more' in render also counts the quality and the velocity of God calculation, I have 2 servers, if both work to 100% I can not continue with other jobs, how do you adjust? the calculation time, how can you count? we diactate that you should prelate this render (presed by the vol1 of evermotio archinterior) http://www.evermotion.org/modelshop/show_product/archinteriors-vol-1/37/0/0/is file nr 7. i for modeling more ' render + the post production, I would be between 170 and 230€....inhabited in the brands!!
Hi.

 

[asalalp]

according to me is little 230 euros for that render

 

[radiosity]

modeling and rendering, how much would you ask?

 

[asalalp]

modeling and rendering, how much would you ask?

280/300 euro

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I can't follow.
by "render" means that I give you a hand-made design of the bathroom, and you model it or make it, or that I say "I want a bathroom with the super-megaphiga bath, I have at disposal 15mq" and you design the bathroom, models and makes it?

because for the second hypothesis, it seems to me that even 300€ are few.. .

 

[lattu]

usually for those who only make the design is excluded and usually come the drawings already in .dwg
you just need to create the model, search or create furniture elements, map and render

 

[Fulvio Romano]

usually for those who only make the design is excluded and usually come the drawings already in .dwg
you just need to create the model, search or create furniture elements, map and render

But at that point the render to what is needed? only to make the image for the brochure?
I don't know. I've always worked differently. the rendering for me is the point where the proposal ends and the design of detail begins, but it is still part of the design, and it serves the design.

 

[radiosity]

It is obvious that the design in this case is excluded, the cost of a project has too many varialibi.type of project, if you need the concept on materials, studies on the fabrics on the lighting etc...I only referred to the model 3d and at a cost to render..I do both project that render, but I also happen to make only the render!!! and I want to catch if I have a correct price.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

It is obvious that the design in this case is excluded, the cost of a project has too many varialibi.type of project, if you need the concept on materials, studies on the fabrics on the lighting etc...I only referred to the model 3d and at a cost to render..I do both project that render, but I also happen to make only the render!!! and I want to catch if I have a correct price.

In my opinion if in a day you mount the pieces, models the special ones, and maker, in the sense, you enter the morning at 8.00 and at 17.00 you have the .tiff file already ritoccatoccato of photoshop, your price is there. Maybe 300 is a little overreacted.

 

[lattu]

I can't make a quote by seeing a scene already made.
Maybe I wouldn't even be able to get a nice effect like the one proposed.
I usually do them on planimetries and according to the customer's instructions (detail, nr of views, delivery times, choice of materials) and then varies depending on whether you find objects on the net that already do to my case... I mean, I don't have the right terms to make a comparison.

 

[render54]

on the emmecad site there is a maker of quotes for modeling and rendering
to entrust to them
on the website www.emmecad.it go to services and then to rendering
cost calculation is free
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[radiosity]

...of course quality counts----I personally know a chaos tester that for a view of a 3d model already made.. he puts lights ,material and post it wants 800€ to view......I referred to that image in particoalre because you saw well the quality of the model and the quality of the render, it is obvious that the variables are many.....quality working time. . I've written about the models and materials...for example, I work with studies that do work at world level...and I happen to have to model not all the objects, to recreate the materials as faithful as possible, but I have learned to cover all the details, from the switch of the light, to the chocolates on the tables etc- on a rendering of the kind you can also ask a lot...but for a picture like that other !

 

[MirkoP]

Hello, everyone.
I have always worked on the design cad in the automotive (catea and nx), and now I am approaching the rendering as an alternative, view (ahimè) the ongoing crisis in my field. I have seen the image to be anticipated, and making a comparison with others, I think the price of rendering is congruous, at most you could ask for another fifty euros more. I hope I've been helpful somehow.
I would like to ask everyone a little extemporaneous question: at what level is the request to render for interior design? is it growing or is it falling?
thanks and hello

 

[Tristan]

I would like to ask everyone a little extemporaneous question: at what level is the request to render for interior design? is it growing or is it falling?
thanks and hello

I answer you for "sense to say" so take it with the pliers: It's growing, but they don't pay you or pay you a spit. "Do all the computer," they say...

 

[MirkoP]

Hello and thank you for the answer.
the fact that the customer seeks excuses not to pay is what you note... Even in my field it happens. a manager of a big car company, he had the courage to tell us, that at that moment we were suppliers, not to exaggerate with the requests for modification, because now everyone knows that with catia it is enough to change four parameters and from the door of a car you get that of a van.... that you have to say to one like this? :finger:
In my opinion if the question grows, the offer will also grow and the rates will tend to descend.....
So I think that to stay afloat you will have to provide more and more quality.
So we go back to the starting point, that is, we have to know how to make the estimates very well.