stupid question:-)

[warburg]

...vw designer, not to mention vw architect, costs about half of revit architecture. Now I wonder and say... Why? I'm afraid to know that with the amount required for revit I can buy almost two licenses of vw designer, which has within it landmark, machine design, spotlight. .
Sorry, I'm just looking for information from who had the time and the opportunity to try them both. I'm with both of you and with each other for now I've just made a few small trials.
Hi.
C

 

[zetadierre]

...vw designer, not to mention vw architect, costs about half of revit architecture. Now I wonder and say... Why? I'm afraid to know that with the amount required for revit I can buy almost two licenses of vw designer, which has within it landmark, machine design, spotlight. .
Sorry, I'm just looking for information from who had the time and the opportunity to try them both. I'm with both of you and with each other for now I've just made a few small trials.
Hi.
C

I chose the archtect version... I wouldn't be surprised if it cost half of that autocad architecture! indeed less than half prob...

Your question is not stupid. is it simply a question to which it is difficult to answer? sure the only problems that you can have is to "fatigue" a little so you don't have immediately and ready a dwg of your file... I guess.

only one observation, designer did not try it, although I know that between one version and the other only change the available palettes (what absurd)

Peace!

 

[warburg]

Yes, I realize it's a little question to the night ones, to the Catalan to mean us... "Is it better to be tall, blond and with blue eyes or dwarves and ugly?"
one should have a free month for every software he wants to try decently, then he could build himself by himself a great report and evaluate perfectly; but as this is a dream to open eyes, for if I had all this free time I would not need to work, then here I come to mind to ask questions "catalane" here on the forum...
vw I met him by a friend and colleague who designs, builds and installs furniture, drawing up to the screw and to the smallest part, then all the executives to pass to manufacturing etc etc. the other day I asked him "but you vw how you use it?" and he answered me "mah, I design everything with modeling 3d, then the computs and all the accounts I do besides...". and I: "but the bim? but the integration of data... building information such as??" answer: "eh??? ".

also this, in addition to the remarkable price of revit, and in addition to the curiosity to see vw 2010, is making me torment to death the autodesk dealer, and also you of the forum
Hi.
C
ps: salute me firenze, city where I threw 20 years of my student life and then architect. . .

 

[lory.b]

vw is a bim, but here in Italy I have the impression that this concept struggles to impose itself, regardless of software.
However vw allows you to integrate data through the internal database connected to the object.
then, it must be borne in mind that the interchange format for the three-dimensional data is certainly not the dwg, but the ifc standard (both vw that revit allow the import/export of that format). This format not only keeps the structure to objects of the model (e.g., the walls remain walls) but also allows the interchange of data connected to the objects themselves.
vw costs less because he wants to keep competitive with those who are the market leaders.
I do.

 

[warburg]

Okay, thank you.
various questions:
1 - is there something like "domestic license" or ancillary offered by autodesk?
2 - are there tools comparable to the stages of work present in revit, to manage the renovation and restoration work having in a single file all the different stages?
3 - How is the 2d? I ask because with revit suite you'll be spoiled by autocad, and in fact I wouldn't be able to leave the design 2d immediately, or in fact I really care about it... (I come from a traditional school and for me the plan generates space)))
4 - is there an annual subscription business?
5 - is really a bim type revit - allplan - archicad or a bim hybrid, how do you read on various forums?
6 - Can I visit some links where you see renderings made with the internal module in vw?
7 - Does it make sense to make computes with vw or as usual then you end up buying primus?
Hi.
C

 

[lory.b]

1 - is there something like "domestic license" or ancillary offered by autodesk?

This is a question to ask the Italian distributor.

2 - are there tools comparable to the stages of work present in revit, to manage the renovation and restoration work having in a single file all the different stages?

I don't know revit. I've never had a chance to look at it.
Anyway, it's just a matter of how you got used to working. we keep the steps well separated. but if you want to have everything on a single file it is possible thanks to the layer/class structure (lights/categories, in the ita). the layers (lights) that are not those of autocad, allow to hold the various phases structured in classes/categories, organized separately.

3 - com'è il 2d?

vw allows to draw in 2d exactly as autocad.
we in the studio also perform the architectural exclusively in 2d. while we develop the model 3d separately and in later stages.
In fact it is not the correct way to use a bim, but certain habits are hard to die... ;-)

4 - is there an annual subscription business?

Here again, you have to ask the distributor.

5 - is really a bim type revit - allplan - archicad or a bim hybrid, how do you read on various forums?

It is a hybrid environment, because it is possible to work in two-dimensional, or as a bim, with parametric objects.
on the nna website you can find examples http://www.nemetschek.net/training/free_resource.php. now I'm in update given the release of 2010.

6 - Can I visit some links where you see renderings made with the internal module in vw?

the gallery on the website nna: http://www.nemetschek.net/gallery/index.php

7 - Does it make sense to make computes with vw or as usual then you end up buying primus?

In fact we also use a dedicated program.
but the internal database allows to have important data on the design such as aero/illuminant relationships, surface calculation, etc.
I do.

 

[warburg]

thank you very much; I see if you can already download the trial version of 2010.
Hi.
C

 

[BIMchecker]

vw is a bim, but here in Italy I have the impression that this concept struggles to impose itself, regardless of software.
However vw allows you to integrate data through the internal database connected to the object.
then, it must be borne in mind that the interchange format for the three-dimensional data is certainly not the dwg, but the ifc standard (both vw that revit allow the import/export of that format). This format not only keeps the structure to objects of the model (e.g., the walls remain walls) but also allows the interchange of data connected to the objects themselves.
vw costs less because he wants to keep competitive with those who are the market leaders.
I do.

more information about the ifc format here: http://www.ifcwiki.org/index.php/main_pagefor the list of certified software or simply compatible for the ifc format you can go on this page:http://www.ifcwiki.org/index.php/commercial_software

e su questa:http://www.ifcwiki.org/index.php/freewarehere is the part in Italian:http://www.iaiitalia.polimi.it/index.htm