subscription revit architecture suite

[smeraldo]

Hello, a colleague would be willing to sell me his license of software in question due to ceased activity (last version) with also the subscription contract that he regularly paid. I ask you this: is the annual subscription contract mandatory?
thank you to those who want to answer me

 

[alpearchitetto]

As far as I know that I have paid for 3 years I think it is, but at the end 800 euro(sic) I think it is well spent:frown:

 

[warburg]

yes to the first purchase is mandatory, then no.

 

[smeraldo]

I understand. Thank you.

 

[Erikilrosso]

the problem is that if you do not accept the subscription you do not have the right to annual updates and stay with this version of the program.

 

[lance]

the problem is that if you do not accept the subscription you do not have the right to annual updates and stay with this version of the program.

which means that you can't interact with those who have sucessive versions xchè revit doesn't save in previous versions.
keep in mind that with the new autodesk policy update to the later versions for those who do not have the subscription costs half the entire license.
In addition, the programme is the subject of continuous developments and I think it is still at a stage where it is better to keep up to date.

 

[roberto]

then I had autocad subscription only but in 2007 I also went to purchase revit with its subscription (800 e. + iva)

in 2010 I decide that for what I have to do I revit can also exclude it and I ask to give up the suite including revit to return to the only autocad (550 e. + iva)

I was told that this cannot be done because our multinational autodesk prohibits it.

Great. You know what rule we are.

I don't think that only for me a consumer association can propose a class action so I have two ways:

a) I keep paying accepting blackmail;

b) I send everyone to c... and I go on until a virus sent by whom you can imagine does not destroy my computer.

:mixed:bekle::angry:

 

[warburg]

sell. If you buy a car, then you don't like it anymore, sell it.

 

[alpearchitetto]

Lethal virus??? muhhhh seems to me a little metropolitan legend :4404: what if it were true? ?

 

[roberto]

...revit ... is the subject of continuous developments and I think it is still at a stage where it is better to keep updated.

So you think there's a hope to solve the problem:

1) phases. after 3 steps you need to be admitted;
2) soil, practically Ingestibile;
3) structural pillars that are not there to show them as c. commands;
4) floor beams to posizioanare with cu.... ;
5) madness on the stairs;
6) almost impossible to make the stairs to chioccciola;
7) very difficult and tied quotation elements, e.g. to reporting plans. that if you turn them off also the quotas;
8) continuous need to find "Italian" families because around there are 90% of the American ones to which the technicians of our municipalities don't care less... ;
9) then become family programmers and not only be of.... end users;
10) continuous storage with joints;
11) undesirable continuous lines on prospectuses;
12) measures so true that if you make the walls with plasters, all the prescriptions of prg - tragic if you talk to me about the structural pillars. . . ;
13) need to always work at the maximum resolution because if you go down everything becomes unguardable,
14) lack of valid commands when you have to work in 2d. there is no "take all texts and..." pictures are not cut out;
15) plating so difficult that you have to invent pdf or other intermediate roads;
16) when others come to me I tell you...

in 3 years updates have never updated anything really useful. In fact, apart from the break with the passage to the new menus the system of quotation has been considerably worsened. and we can't just camp 3d, we need to complete a project table with all the rest of the information in 2d......

:redface::

 

[warburg]

So you think there's a hope to solve the problem:

1) phases. after 3 steps you need to be admitted;
2) soil, practically Ingestibile;
3) structural pillars that are not there to show them as c. commands;
4) floor beams to posizioanare with cu.... ;
5) madness on the stairs;
6) almost impossible to make the stairs to chioccciola;
7) very difficult and tied quotation elements, e.g. to reporting plans. that if you turn them off also the quotas;
8) continuous need to find "Italian" families because around there are 90% of the American ones to which the technicians of our municipalities don't care less... ;
9) then become family programmers and not only be of.... end users;
10) continuous storage with joints;
11) undesirable continuous lines on prospectuses;
12) measures so true that if you make the walls with plasters, all the prescriptions of prg - tragic if you talk to me about the structural pillars. . . ;
13) need to always work at the maximum resolution because if you go down everything becomes unguardable,
14) lack of valid commands when you have to work in 2d. there is no "take all texts and..." pictures are not cut out;
15) plating so difficult that you have to invent pdf or other intermediate roads;
16) when others come to me I tell you...

in 3 years updates have never updated anything really useful. In fact, apart from the break with the passage to the new menus the system of quotation has been considerably worsened. and we can't just camp 3d, we need to complete a project table with all the rest of the information in 2d......

:redface::

I hope you're not right, what are the forum experts saying?

 

[chandler]

Hello, a colleague would be willing to sell me his license of software in question due to ceased activity (last version) with also the subscription contract that he regularly paid. I ask you this: is the annual subscription contract mandatory?
thank you to those who want to answer me

the sale of the license is prohibited, well informed.

 

[smeraldo]

the sale of the license is prohibited, well informed.

I called autodesk and told me that the license pass is possible, after approval of the same, for software not older than three versions than the current. so there should be no problem in buying revit 2010, at least hope.
greetings

 

[lance]

So you think there's a hope to solve the problem:

1) phases. after 3 steps you need to be admitted;
2) soil, practically unmanageable;
3) structural pillars that are not there to show them as c. commands;
4) floor beams to posizioanare with cu.... ;
5) madness on the stairs;
6) almost impossible to make the stairs to chioccciola;
7) very difficult and tied quotation elements, e.g. to reporting plans. that if you turn them off also the quotas;
8) continuous need to find "Italian" families because around there are 90% of the American ones to which the technicians of our municipalities don't care less... ;
9) then become family programmers and not only be of.... end users;
10) continuous storage with joints;
11) undesirable continuous lines on prospectuses;
12) measures so true that if you make the walls with plasters, all the prescriptions of prg - tragic if you talk to me about the structural pillars. . . ;
13) need to always work at the maximum resolution because if you go down everything becomes unguardable,
14) lack of valid commands when you have to work in 2d. there is no "take all texts and..." pictures are not cut out;
15) plating so difficult that you have to invent pdf or other intermediate roads;
16) when others come to me I tell you..

. .

in 3 years updates have never updated anything really useful. In fact, apart from the break with the passage to the new menus the system of quotation has been considerably worsened. and we can't just camp 3d, we need to complete a project table with all the rest of the information in 2d......

I do not say that it is the perfect program, which among other things does not exist, but for my needs it has always been up to me saving a lot of time.I always find the way to return even complex state reliefs, I certainly have learned to model the families I need, it is a component of the software like to draw a wall.the genius sometimes can draw, paraphrasing a known character "three pipe" for the solution but try to . on the graphical interface maybe I could agree but I can assure you that x who starts from scratch is not bad. pictures you can Cut out.
I don't understand why you have to limit yourself to using this or that program you can very well get with revit at some point and continue with autocad if you do better.
ps:what problems with plotting?I have always printed everything correctly, indeed, I know people who prepared boards for contests and made his figure.

of course these considerations are based on mia work experience:finger:

I forgot then there are still the benefits offered by teamwork, design variants, compatibility with max that improves year by year etc.

 

[roberto]

I do not say that it is the perfect program, which among other things does not exist, but for my needs it has always been up to me saving a lot of time.I always find the way to return even complex state reliefs, I certainly have learned to model the families I need, it is a component of the software like to draw a wall.the genius sometimes can draw, paraphrasing a known character "three pipe" for the solution but try to . on the graphical interface maybe I could agree but I can assure you that x who starts from scratch is not bad. pictures you can Cut out.
I don't understand why you have to limit yourself to using this or that program you can very well get with revit at some point and continue with autocad if you do better.
ps:what problems with plotting?I have always printed everything correctly, indeed, I know people who prepared boards for contests and made his figure.

of course these considerations are based on mia work experience:finger:

I forgot then there are still the benefits offered by teamwork, design variants, compatibility with max that improves year by year etc.

You're confirming everything. By the way, I didn't say that it shouldn't be used, or that no one uses it, in practice I simply said that for how it is proposed and compels you to work does not match my needs.

Did you say you have to use it with other programs to get a result? that you have to make the programmer of families confirm it to me... continue with autocad "folding" the dwg that pulls you out to your working needs (layer/colors/piline/elements then external and internal quotas etc.) means to work there several days.
for the phases if you treat renovations in masonry well that you go you can not fly to close and open an almost coincidence window. . .
pictures crops if you use a 3d view if you want to use a 2d view do not crop anything.
the plotter directly from revit scalpita some ten minutes before leaving and the plotting seems the work of 10 workers who by hand want to move a building. this does not happen with autocad, although having to adopt the transfer via pc and not from memory (I have so much on the pc and on the plotter)

I demand a program that can really reveal to me the project (full to be delivered to the municipality!!) and however that gives signs of improvement. it is not possible in 3 years to always find themselves with the same difficulties.

 

[lance]

the plotter directly from revit scalpita some ten minutes before leaving and the plotting seems the work of 10 workers who by hand want to move a building. this does not happen with autocad, although having to adopt the transfer via pc and not from memory (I have so much on the pc and on the plotter)

I can assure you that it doesn't happen to me and some complex boards the mold too.

that you have to do the programmer of families I confirm

but you make it look impossible! Although I have to translate from the autodesk guide (this should be improved!) in a month of study I learned, and now I do everything. Then I think you continue to consider it a thing apart, modeling families is part of revit, the fact that users put at your disposal bookstores is a more useful, useful, but you don't have to create anything else.

Did you say you have to use it with other programs to get a result?

I meant it possible use it with other programs to have a result, I don't do it....however this is an old story.dico, the fact that those who take care of architecture (and I put myself in my little one) makes resistance in the use of multiple programs in the workflow that leads to the fulfillment of a project.in all other business areas where the computer is applied is a concept exceeded.who makes rendering normally uses 2 or 3 programs who works in the right field.

I demand a program that can really speed up the project (full to be delivered to the municipality!!)

Here I am really in tune with the problem and that I think it does not exist and revit despite its limitations, (which I do not deny but find me a program without defects) is one of the few who made concrete steps in this direction.

I repeat, this is my opinion based on my experiences and need I would like to know what other users think of the forum.

 

[Erikilrosso]

♪
Maybe you better keep using autocad. In my opinion, your problem is similar to what many autocad users are interested in: lack of adaptability from a 2d program to a 3d program, which obliges you to review the way you think and develop a project. the difficulties of use that you encounter in the program and its weaknesses, which certainly exist, see the last modification of the mask of 2010, perhaps mask an incorrect approach to the program.
designing with revit is how to really build the building you are thinking, in all its details, element by element.
I have had the opportunity to discuss this with colleagues who employ autocad practically since he was born and now they have tried a 3d program, revit, allplann, etc. without being able to get in tune with them, as they think you just crush a button and then the machine, which turns these programs, will bake your beautiful tables ready for the commune. apart from the fact that each municipality has its claims, so it would take a program by common, this is a bit a utopia, because volent or nolente your tables you must always compose and then print, with any program.
I printed a lot of tables with revit, quite a bit, but I never had special problems apart from printing times, for heavy files with shadows. families do not want to become a programmer: You build them for your use and consumption, and that doesn't seem like a good solution? Moreover online there are dozens of sites with everything and more to load in bookstores, from windows to airplanes, so just have a little patience and look for.
ah, but are you sure there is a program to use immediately, quickly, without studying it for a moment?
If it exists, let me know, it might interest me.

 

[gfrank]

.... families do not want to become a programmer: You build them for your use and consumption, and that doesn't seem like a good solution? ....

quoto...
families must not be parametric "force"; they can also be "static" ....

you can make a family of doors/windows/pillars/ecc. with dimensions "fix" and when necessary (modification>duplica) make more families with the necessary dimensions (as you do with autocad... )

 

[gfrank]

I called autodesk and told me that the license pass is possible, after approval of the same, for software not older than three versions than the current. so there should be no problem in buying revit 2010, at least hope.
greetings

... then, before buying (pay) ask the seller for written authorization approved by autodesk

(if the policy of self-desk has not changed, it is difficult to release it ....)

 

[roberto]

Thank you all for the answers.

I would like to continue only with autocad, but it is the autodesk that claims the continuation of a subscription also for revit.

after three years I took my conclusions and finding the strength not to see it as a great personal defeat I resolved to end it, to release myself of the author.

I would just like to reduce the losses, which have also been very copious......