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[MARCOC]

Hello everyone

I react to an object I put it in my very active adactivity and everything and perfect... at this point I take the same component and the pitch in another together and here the problemone...the adaptive can no longer activate until I remove it from the first together. . .

(my problem and how can I represent a spring that in different assemblies has different preload positions)

thanks to everyone hello

 

[pagnotz]

You can't get two different "aspects" on the same side... If it changes size to fit the situation of a first set, it will have the same size in another set where it is inserted and if it cannot do it by constraints, etc. will generate a mistake.
If the two together contain the same parts but only change their position, then you can use a single set and position representations.
If you have to create two separate assemblies, then you have to create two springs, you can make a copy of the first spring with another name and replace it in the second together.

 

[stefanobruno]

Hello everyone

I react to an object I put it in my very active adactivity and everything and perfect... at this point I take the same component and the pitch in another together and here the problemone...the adaptive can no longer activate until I remove it from the first together. . .

(my problem and how can I represent a spring that in different assemblies has different preload positions)

thanks to everyone hello

The adactivity is a bad beast.
as you have noticed, it only works between two specific pieces and a piece with adactivity, transported elsewhere creates problems.
this option I only use it, and very limitedly, in the study phase, after that I remove it and bond the sketch for benign.
for what concerns the spring, cross and delight of the forum, for a while I have behaved like this:
1) I create the part of about 1/3 spring.
2) I create together with the two half parts placed at the free lungh.
3) I make a position configuration (flex ) making mobile one of the two parts of the spring.
4) place the spring assembly (flexible and flex position) in the overall.
5) if you need to show the two or more positions of the set, I use the position configurator.

the same process I use it with everything that moves, cylinders, cable chains etc.

Bye.

 

[MauroM]

The method you use seems very good for springs. what I don't understand is how you can use it for cable chains and cylinders (designs 1/3 of stem ?).

 

[stefanobruno]

The method you use seems very good for springs. what I don't understand is how you can use it for cable chains and cylinders (designs 1/3 of stem ?).

the cylinder is an iam, with the constraint that governs the suppressed race so that you can move according to the positions of the total.
the cylinders that I unload (e.g. festo ), I modify them by making three representations of position, all out, all in and flex, then I put them in total with the appropriate representation.
I make a set for the cable chain where I put the fixed, the sliding and the belly.
the fixed attack is " nailed " and followed by two jerseys bound to the same attack.
the sliding side is formed in the same way, bound on two axes but free to move on the third regarding the fixed attachment.
the belly I do it with a bound part in the same way as the sliding side, which I then connect to the overall with constraints governed by the representation of position.
allego pdf because it is easier to do than to describe.

Bye.

 

[MauroM]

Okay, got it!

 

[folle76]

1) I create the part of about 1/3 spring.
2) I create together with the two half parts placed at the free lungh.
3) I make a position configuration (flex ) making mobile one of the two parts of the spring.
4) place the spring assembly (flexible and flex position) in the overall.
5) if you need to show the two or more positions of the set, I use the position configurator.

I chose to buy proes for the company so I work because the name of the product is cool (I actually tested it thoroughly, but I did not benchmark among the cads). I know, but after hearing this spring discussion, I'm happy. The only thing I don't like about proe is that it doesn't have an autolisp or something similar or a powerful vba to increase office interaction. Sorry about the theme.

 

[stefanobruno]

but after hearing this spring discussion I'm happy.

by curiosity I typed in the " search " of the forum proe : " spring ".
I don't want to argue, at Christmas we're all from the party of the dim, but I didn't understand why you're so happy.
I don't know progeny, but the springs like the inventor don't make them.:biggrin:
(for what it takes to adapt them then ...)
years ago, I stubborned myself for a week to make a cable chain that really moved, like it was alive.
it was my study done in lean times and it served me above all to understand that stubbornness was just waste of time.

ps.: I won, the chain moved benign, but sweaty.

Bye.

 

[folle76]

I agree with you that it is not the case of producing in a very long round and spring of arguments for a banal spring.
I think it is the equivalent of your adaptivity. I can insert the same x component into various axiemi making (in the axieme, not the component) parameterizable parts of the component and/or suppressing/restoring features of construction of the component itself. therefore the same x spring can enter into different assemblies assuming infinite preload conditions, without clearly creating copies of the same component. that's why they made me smile at the various tricks you devised to give flexibility to the components. That's all. I don't know what I'm doing, but I don't know my system.

for what you show me with your project I can tell you quietly that I don't make mechanical design. My axioms are of few components and are only complex from the point of view of surface modeling. I imagine it was complex moving the chain... well, if at least you didn't impress the customer or the commercial make cmq some effect on the grandchildren/sons/brothers/women(!?!?!) the cinematic animations.
prosit!

 

[maxopus]

I chose to buy proes for the company for which I work because the name of the product is cool.......
. The only thing I don't like about proe is that it doesn't have an autolisp or something similar or a powerful vba to increase office interaction. Sorry about the theme.

dear mad76, you still do not know well pro/e.
first, because you do not buy for the name... but why it works.
Secondly, because you have no idea how much programming can be done within pro/e.
the most luminaire consists of bees in visual basic, then there is the pro/program, then there are a customizable auxiliary applications caterpillar.
Studere studere...

 

[folle76]

Well, I know modestly about programming. vba I know it very well, I have the rudiments of sql server and vb forms application I made a lot of it. I learned everything alone thanks to the will and material that abounds on the net. I also made a web area reserved in asp.net.
of pro/program, pro/toolkit and vb api there is very little on the net. The same company I bought the software doesn't know what I'm talking about. manuals in .pdf and online documentation (on pro/program in particular) is worth. something I have done after many efforts. I'm just saying there's no community, there's no ferment and material like autolisp for autocad. This is my experience. I don't think I'm dismembered in learning, there's something missing in proe or (not to hurt sensitive souls) I don't like.
The only thing I totally ignore is windchill. I confess. but my company is so small that for integration (minimum) management-proe system I can only rely on small applications written by me.

 

[maxopus]

Well, I know modestly about programming. vba I know it very well, I have the rudiments of sql server and vb forms application I made a lot of it. I learned everything alone thanks to the will and material that abounds on the net. I also made a web area reserved in asp.net.
of pro/program, pro/toolkit and vb api there is very little on the net. The same company I bought the software doesn't know what I'm talking about. manuals in .pdf and online documentation (on pro/program in particular) is worth. something I have done after many efforts. I'm just saying there's no community, there's no ferment and material like autolisp for autocad. This is my experience. I don't think I'm dismembered in learning, there's something missing in proe or (not to hurt sensitive souls) I don't like.
The only thing I totally ignore is windchill. I confess. but my company is so small that for integration (minimum) management-proe system I can only rely on small applications written by me.

I'm sorry that you didn't find answers to your questions but, this isn't a problem with the program, as you abstained at first, you just don't know where to collect information.
If the company from which you purchased the licenses is not able to direct you means that they are not good retailers, because otherwise they would still be informed to provide an answer.

If you need contacts to clarify some ideas send me a private message, I am a normal user but, I know many people informed about the facts:biggrin:::biggrin:.

 

[Calimero]

by curiosity I typed in the " search " of the forum proe : " spring ".
I don't want to argue, at Christmas we're all from the party of the dim, but I didn't understand why you're so happy.
I don't know progeny, but the springs like the inventor don't make them.:biggrin:
(for what it takes to adapt them then ...)
years ago, I stubborned myself for a week to make a cable chain that really moved, like it was alive.
it was my study done in lean times and it served me above all to understand that stubbornness was just waste of time.

ps.: I won, the chain moved benign, but sweaty.

Bye.

It's like saying that you don't like oysters even if you never eat them...:smile:

 

[stefanobruno]

It's like saying that you don't like oysters even if you never eat them...:smile:

I don't know what you're talking about.
However it is true, oysters, molluscs and snails make me sense and I do not care if I lose something.

Bye.