suppress the components and can not display them in tables

[dicifa]

Hello, girl.
I need to create a set with all the details to make a machine, create various levels of detail by suppressing the components that I don't need and put them on the table....but I noticed this; when I make the various sets on the table and I create the tables and I carry the distinct material I also find the suppressed components....how can I make that when I create the tables for every level of detail do not make me turn out also the suppressed components in the tables and in the distinct? . . .or can I do differently without eliminating comppnenti and managing a single file together? :banghead:

 

[arzigogolo]

Hello, girl.
I need to create a set with all the details to make a machine, create various levels of detail by suppressing the components that I don't need and put them on the table....but I noticed this; when I make the various sets on the table and I create the tables and I carry the distinct material I also find the suppressed components....how can I make that when I create the tables for every level of detail do not make me turn out also the suppressed components in the tables and in the distinct? . . .or can I do differently without eliminating comppnenti and managing a single file together? :banghead:

together: dx key on the suppressed component -> distinct structure components -> and "referral" ideas. now the deleted components will no longer appear in the table.:smile:
At least if I understand what you mean.

 

[MauroM]

Unfortunately it is a problem still not solved.
I do so: double-click in the separate parts at the table, dx mouse in the rows that you do not want to see-> "visible" flags.

 

[arzigogolo]

Unfortunately it is a problem still not solved.
I do so: double-click in the separate parts at the table, dx mouse in the rows that you do not want to see-> "visible" flags.

Yes, I was doing so too, but with this method of "referring" with the right mouse button on the component that you do not want it to appear in the table, it is more hurrying because you do not have to edit the table and manually hide the component, it is already automatically hidden without needing to do further interventions.

 

[MauroM]

There's something wrong with me:
If in the "a.iam" axieme I want the "p.ipt" part to be present (obviously) in the main detail level and instead suppressed in a level I created, the characteristic of being "reference" will be valid for both levels of detail and then when I go to table the main detail level, in the list "p.ipt" parts will not appear.

 

[arzigogolo]

There's something wrong with me:
If in the "a.iam" axieme I want the "p.ipt" part to be present (obviously) in the main detail level and instead suppressed in a level I created, the characteristic of being "reference" will be valid for both levels of detail and then when I go to table the main detail level, in the list "p.ipt" parts will not appear.

Yeah, you're right. If you pick up "reference" in the axieme, the table will show you all the components except the one with "reference" regardless of the representation and the level of detail created, so you will hide the components in any case with the selected option.

At this point you should do as you say and hide the component directly in the table. But sin!

However the only good thing is that when you go to table the main level, the component with "reference" appears to you the same, but treated instead of with continuous line. this to distinguish it from others.
at least one good thing!:redface:

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

if you double click in the table you enter the list parts .
filter settings in the upper left
at the bottom check out default view representation
in this way the parts not visible in that level of detail are not listed

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

excuse the filter first you have to set it from representation seen together .
available for clarification if I was unclear

 

[ma60rco]

excuse the filter first you have to set it from representation seen together .
available for clarification if I was unclear

you were very clear and gave a really useful suggestion.

Thank you.

 

[MauroM]

useful in half.
always remains the problem that inventor cares about the items actually represented...he always counts the total.
if I make a representation with 2 bolts, and then I do another with 1 bolt, in the table the quantity will always be 2.

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

useful in half.
always remains the problem that inventor cares about the items actually represented...he always counts the total.
if I make a representation with 2 bolts, and then I do another with 1 bolt, in the table the quantity will always be 2.

look I can tell you that if I saved the level of detail in the axieme with 1 visible bolt and 1 no and I create a table setting the filter as described in the table quantity, it indicates 1 pc.
Anyway, I'll try again now, and I'll let you know.

 

[MauroM]

I have 2014, you are 2015. Maybe that's the difference.

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

you are right in 2015 it works as I said in 2014 no.
I tried but it seems very strange

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

look I did some tests actually not even 2015 works if it manually suppresses them.
because I did suppression with ilogic everything works as I described before.
Don't ask me why, I don't explain, what changes?

 

[eugenesis]

I think you guys are a little confused, and one thing is the visual representations and these can be
work with separate filters and one thing are the levels of detail; you can copy from one to another and vice versa the suppressed
from invisible etc.
then surely the separate filter on the view cannot manage the quantities (it is clearly reported in the help) ;
If only one occurrence is visible, the count of quantities works on all occurrences of the part!

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

then I found a quote in the help of ilogic in which it clearly says that it is used isactive as well as suppressing the element takes the part on reference:http://knowledge.autodesk.com/suppo...afa099f1-b161-4822-914d-307f5cd8fe20-htm.htmlwhile if you do it manually suppression you also need to bring the reference part and everything works.
I believe that ilogics have given an extra march all these other explanations I can't find

 

[MauroM]

So, guys, I think you guys are getting a little confused.

No no confusion, I clearly have the operation. I say only:
Dear inventor, in 3d environment you offer me two excellent tools (configuration of view and levels of detail) that for those that are my needs allow me to make various arrangements of the same equipment. ..perfect.
But I am a designer and my language of communication to others is still the 2d.
when I go to slap on the table a configuration, the graphic result is ok but the shopping list ( q.ta in the table parts ) is incorrect. Why?
That's all.
(n.b. I do not use ilogic and are still at 2014. )

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

I think you guys are a little confused, and one thing is the visual representations and these can be
work with separate filters and one thing are the levels of detail; you can copy from one to another and vice versa the suppressed
from invisible etc.
then surely the separate filter on the view cannot manage the quantities (it is clearly reported in the help) ;
If only one occurrence is visible, the count of quantities works on all occurrences of the part!

eugenesis I see you a very prepared person, you may kindly clarify the substantial difference between view representations and detail level.
Sorry the question but I never did any course all I know I learned from self-taught on youtube and I started from 0 and came to plan with ilogic (with discreet results), but I miss those fundamental notions. I thank you in advance

I think you guys are a little confused, and one thing is the visual representations and these can be
work with separate filters and one thing are the levels of detail; you can copy from one to another and vice versa the suppressed
from invisible etc.
then surely the separate filter on the view cannot manage the quantities (it is clearly reported in the help) ;
If only one occurrence is visible, the count of quantities works on all occurrences of the part!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

eugenesis I see you a very prepared person, you may kindly clarify the substantial difference between view representations and detail level.
Sorry the question but I never did any course all I know I learned from self-taught on youtube and I started from 0 and came to plan with ilogic (with discreet results), but I miss those fundamental notions. I thank you in advance

I would also like an explanation of these aspects of inventor.

 

[rf.infissi@libero.it]

hi studied a bit the thing I managed to understand that in the level of detail you can suppress parts to represent internal parts otherwise invisible.
in the view of detail you set the aesthetic appearance zoom a view , without setting it every time.
what I'm trying to understand is the influence they have on idw tables