surface quality

[panormus]

but as you set it up recently it went a little further.. .

Are you kidding me? Maybe it's degenerated for me? This is what this discussion ends here for me.

Do you really want to make serious progress on advanced surface modeling? from courses to manuals the systems are there, but not sure by cuffing on a forum! because as I repeat: this topic to be assimilated needs blood! and every one of us cares about our own blood. . .

I hope I've explained... Have a good day!

My grandfather always said: "even a dog moves the tail for nothing... "

a forum should assume the availability to exchange for free and mutually,
However I was also willing to pay to learn (see other discussions "teacher search for online lessons").

good continuation to all and we get caught in other discussions.

 

[Er Presidente]

I imagine that choosing option 5 means that there is no person more prepared than ourselves.. .
we say that there is a good pinch of modesty.. .

if possible, I ask, humbly that this option is eliminated or otherwise made compatible with the spirit of esteem towards the "others" that should be the basis of this forum.

 

[Er Presidente]

By attracting me the negative criticism of who told me you won't make it, it's impossible. . .

Who told you these things?

and those of those who come to do something, although perfectable surely told me repeatedly that the work is bad.

What are you looking for? You want me to say "good"?
criticism should not be judged, accepted, if motivated.

the second fault is to have me passionate and made understand that nothing is impossible if you put yourself with passion and commitment;

Do you need this extreme test to increase your self-esteem? What you wrote is so obvious that it seems strange that it is necessary to force a forum to prove it. Look, no one in the world was born "learned", everyone, no one excluded must have passion and put commitment in what he does, if he wants to succeed, you're not the only one.

As for asking too much is something I do mine, I accept that my desire to know can be indisposable and if so it was I apologize to all those who have lived this indisposition,

It's not asking too much, and asking "too many times" the exact same thing that he indisposes. to grow means to walk a "road" a crossroads made of obstacles that must be overcome one by one. think of starting from the end, a complex object like a plane, and then do to "move back" going to look for the solution to problems does not work, I'm sorry.

but the desire to know and ask today also takes place in the forums, where it is lawful to ask and where I expect the answer, if there is courteous.

answer what? you don't have the doubt that if any of the 40,000 subscribers to a forum answers you maybe you need to correct your way of asking/questing questions? "trusting" the forum in some kind of competition to prove that we are better than you is not a way to attract sympathy and collaboration.

that my work is defective is clear, it does not rain, and the treahd is born to ask how to solve and how I do not think I have found precise answers, but lately only interventions in which I read "is not going, it is not a faithful reproduction" that I care secondaryly.

If your job suits you so you just have to settle down, if it's not okay, otherwise you don't understand where we're going.
being faithful to the original is not a "half" is the way to work properly.
The surfaces in reality do not exist are the idealization of a virtual reality that must as much as possible remain anchored to reality. If the original model of the plane has the broken surfaces and fitting in a certain way, do you think it's a case? You don't have the doubt that who designed and modeled them had to solve the problems you find before you? Trust me, follow the work of those who are definitely more experienced, and only after that you can try to rework your work on an autonomous path, after years of study and hundreds of frustrating failures.

It is good second to invite also to those who have friends rooted with the leadership to be however kind staying in topic looking at the moon and not the finger.

So the problem is, "how," things are said to you, and not "what," who looks at the finger?

Sorry, it's my real intention to be friends with all of you.
Have a good day.

Dude, why? Before you're friends, you have to estimate that you have to respect yourself and to have respect you have to avoid trying to prove that in the forum there is no "one better than me".

 

[marcof]

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that my work is faulty is clear, it does not rain and the treahd is born to ask how to solve and how I do not think I have found precise answers

I thought you pretended you didn't understand, but now I'm beginning to wonder that you pretend...
I have already explained to you several times (of course too many...) that the answers you are looking for cannot have because until now you have posted nothing, I say nothing, that it was of some usefulness to understand where you are wrong (because you are wrong to shape the surfaces is a certain fact).
you want to understand or not that:
1) you must post the files in catia format because those who can open them can understand how cabbage you have created the surfaces that do not come to you as they should
2) screenshot images or even iges format files do not serve a blessed fava to understand where you are wrong.

but lately only interventions in which I read "is not going, is not a faithful repeated"

read this because this is what you are producing: a job that's not right. If you feel a success having a 3d model to turn on screen I am happy for you, but if you put yourself in a public forum it will be good that you learn to accept criticism, avoiding to brand them as "non-constructive" simply because they highlight what is wrong.
for cuddles, acrylic compliments, office defenses is better to turn elsewhere.

I suggest you think. for months and months you are working on that model and the final result is not what it should be. continue imperterrito to completely wrong sections of the fuselage and of the tail planes; at least the surfaces were good you might think that you overwhelmed the blueprints to make beautiful surfaces, but the susperfici do not go.

I don't think you've ever posted a native file with the only curves on the first surface that you created so that someone could evaluate the quality of the same curves and possibly explain how to make them better and usable or recommend a better approach.
I mean, you went low on your weirdo, so what do you want me to say? to me would say "who is the cagion of his evil weeps himself"
Unfortunately, these partially ot divagations are necessary to re-establish properly as things are after your piagnistei for too much criticism and the few compliments. Of course I have not missed, however, also this time, to try (in vain I will try) to help you by pointing out at the beginning of the post a different approach to the search for the solutions that you lack.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

It's amazing that nobody realizes...

 

[Er Presidente]

It's amazing that nobody realizes...

What? enlighten us.

 

[panormus]

What? enlighten us.

vi illumino io :mixed: :

ad rivum eundem lupus et agnus venerant siti compulsi: superior stabat lupus, longeque inferior agnus: tunc fauce improba latro incitatus jurgii causam intulit. cur, restless, turbulentam fecisti mihi istam bibenti? laniger against timens, who possum, quaeso, facere quod quereris, lupe? a te decurred ad meos haustus liquor. repulsus ille veritatis viribus, ante hos sex menses male, ait, dixisti mihi. responded agnus: equidem natus non eram. pater hercle tuus, restless, maledixit mihi. atque ita correptum lacerat unjusta nece.
haec popter illos scripta est homines fabula, quificti caussi innocentes opprimunt.


:finger:

vediamo se così è più chiaro, miinteressa che lo capiscano gli altri lettori. :wink:

 

[Er Presidente]

vi illumino io :mixed: :

ad rivum eundem lupus et agnus venerant siti compulsi: superior stabat lupus, longeque inferior agnus: tunc fauce improba latro incitatus jurgii causam intulit. cur, restless, turbulentam fecisti mihi istam bibenti? laniger against timens, who possum, quaeso, facere quod quereris, lupe? a te decurred ad meos haustus liquor. repulsus ille veritatis viribus, ante hos sex menses male, ait, dixisti mihi. responded agnus: equidem natus non eram. pater hercle tuus, restless, maledixit mihi. atque ita correptum lacerat unjusta nece.
haec popter illos scripta est homines fabula, quificti caussi innocentes opprimunt.


:finger:

vediamo se così è più chiaro, miinteressa che lo capiscano gli altri lettori. :wink:

and who is the wolf? And the lamb?

If you want, I'll give you 2,000 euros for your model so we'll end it here.

 

[Counterblow Hammer]

vi illumino io :mixed: :

ad rivum eundem lupus et agnus venerant siti compulsi: superior stabat lupus, longeque inferior agnus: tunc fauce improba latro incitatus jurgii causam intulit. cur, restless, turbulentam fecisti mihi istam bibenti? laniger against timens, who possum, quaeso, facere quod quereris, lupe? a te decurred ad meos haustus liquor. repulsus ille veritatis viribus, ante hos sex menses male, ait, dixisti mihi. responded agnus: equidem natus non eram. pater hercle tuus, restless, maledixit mihi. atque ita correptum lacerat unjusta nece.
haec popter illos scripta est homines fabula, quificti caussi innocentes opprimunt.


:finger:

vediamo se così è più chiaro, miinteressa che lo capiscano gli altri lettori. :wink:

I would avoid making vittimisms hiding behind the old fedro... would not be very elegant by a technician.. .

 

[Fulvio Romano]

and who is the wolf? And the lamb?

and the known "usuals" instead who?

 

[Er Presidente]

and the known "usuals" instead who?

I see you're well informed, but don't overestimate, I don't have it with you.

 

[MBT]

In my humble opinion, someone must seriously do self-analysis. . .

 

[Fulvio Romano]

In my humble opinion, someone must seriously do self-analysis. . .

the problem of the term "someone" is that you never understand if it is plural or singular. . .

 

[MBT]

That's the beauty!
if there was a term to indicate "some" singular, everyone would think "ah, it's certainly not me"
if the word "some" was certainly plural, many would think "eh, it touches others"
so the doubt remains. who is brought to the autocritics, stops a moment and thinks about it. who, on the contrary, is really borious, does not even grasp the suggestion.