sw2011 con w7/64 vs xp/32

[Brigno]

I have two pcs almost identical

picture fx 4600
cpu dual core at 4ghz (overclock)
4 gb ram (32 bit) 8 gb ram (64 bit)
high performance ssd disc (7.2 score given by win7)

but............that with win7 64 bit is tremendously slower than that with xp32 bits

but when I say terrible. . I mean, I mean, I'm...

I tried to update the drivers of the video card but nothing, the settings look identical...but the speed difference is embarrassing!

Any ideas?

 

[AntonioV]

a moment: does the abyssal difference occur only when using sw, or even other programs?

If you reboot both pcs in temporary mode, performance tends to equalize, or does nothing change?

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[Brigno]

only with sw:frown:

It's slow to both manage graphics and do any operation.

my notebook (of m65 co sw2011 and xp) is faster

 

[Mike1967]

only with sw:frown:

It's slow to both manage graphics and do any operation.

my notebook (of m65 co sw2011 and xp) is faster

Make sure you don't have the active dissection.

 

[AntonioV]

If the hardware is identical, then it could be a 32bit sw-incompatibility installed on win64.

However you did not answer my second question, which would eliminate any doubt about possible conflicts with other programs loaded in memory. .

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[Brigno]

w7/64 with sw2011/64 xp/32 with sw2011/32

I didn't try in temporary mode.

among other things if I disable the opengl option the graphic part returns to be fluid but during the zoom a small quadradratin is created and does not update the screen making the sw unusable.

I also tried to reverse the video cards but the problem remained:

 

[AntonioV]

try to install This is driver (exact, in English!)

If it doesn't improve, it tempts temporary mode.

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[sampom]

... among other things if I disabled the opengl option.. .

Wait a minute. .
with picture cards (so with opengl hardware "native") that option is not enabled.

Anyway to me it seems that the new xeon ws with win7 and swx64, quadrifx3800, are "proportionally" slower than the old xp pro32 and swx32.
certainly slower than this assembled pc I have at home, quad9550 (@3.2ghz), gefo8800gtx (moddata in qfx5600, but also with original fx3500), xp and 32-bit swx.
What if I say about the "graphic power" I know that a good overclock at the frequency of the processor brings tangible benefits (and unfortunately to the company's ws I can't do it).

about artifacts (quadratino or rectangle) and locking the screen with win7 (never success with xp) does it to me in the office, but only with users. if I access as admin does not happen and everything seems to "turn better". Who can explain and remedy this?

greetings
Mar

 

[SolidUser]

Wait a minute. .
Anyway to me it seems that the new xeon ws with win7 and swx64, quadrifx3800, are "proportionally" slower than the old xp pro32 and swx32.
certainly slower than this assembled pc I have at home, quad9550 (@3.2ghz), gefo8800gtx (moddata in qfx5600, but also with original fx3500), xp and 32-bit swx.
greetings
Mar

I noticed the opposite.. .
in the company we all have xp pro 32-bit.
then being administrators of the pcs, some users dirty him by installing everything he downloaded from the internet.
so you decided to format those pcs considered dirty.
being a big company, we have corporate licenses.
then on those pcs we installed windows 7 to 64-bit.
the difference is noted, thanks to 64-bit.
clearly the hw is the same and supports 64-bit.
try to test with opengl enabled and see if it is better than 32-bit or 64-bit.
If it's better, it means you have problems with video drivers.

 

[re_solidworks]

It seems strange, I have spent the old workstations (of 490 - xeon 5160 - painting 3500) from xp to 7x64 and are no slower than before, I would say that at performance level I do not see big differences.
As for the new workstations (both assembled) I would say that win7x64 is fine and swx turns beautiful fluid.
Also the notebook (m6400) passed from xpx64 to 7x64 is fine and does not give me problems.

 

[sampom]

. means you have problems with video drivers.

I didn't say that because I thought it was superfluous, but obviously "mount" the swx certified drivers for those cards with that know and that version of swx.
Anyway, I tried them all a bit and the result doesn't change.
..and then why only user?

greetings
Mar

 

[sampom]

It seems strange, I have spent the old workstations (of 490 - xeon 5160 - painting 3500) from xp to 7x64 and are no slower than before, I would say that at performance level I do not see big differences.
As for the new workstations (both assembled) I would say that win7x64 is fine and swx turns beautiful fluid.
Also the notebook (m6400) passed from xpx64 to 7x64 is fine and does not give me problems.

I don't know what to tell you, and I don't understand what it was supposed to be. only that, as you already mentioned, after almost a year of use I am not fully satisfied with the t3500.. I expected a lot more. I find it undeniable that the old pc of house assembled with 800 euros goes better or even just equal (and on that yes there is installed of all a little).
the only tangible difference is to start swx64 that with win7 and xeon leaves almost immediately, while with quadcore "consumer", xp and all at 32bit it takes about ten seconds. for the rest during the work I do not appreciate improvements, and in order to have a sufficient fluidity in the assemblies I have to drastically lower the image quality and remove the black edges (the realview is unlikely).

greetings
Mar

 

[Brigno]

Monday, I'll make some evidence....it's the fact that that damn square is only there with w7!!

on the laptop if I change disk (one with xp and one with win7) the problem of the handle is only with win7

notebook is one of the m65 with fx 350m picture

 

[AntonioV]

the problem of the square is only with win7

the signaled driver here. is the most recent "64bit" among those certified solidworks: If that doesn't work out, there's a software conflict somewhere, if the hardware is fine.

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[Brigno]

4 pcs

the 3 tried with win7 all have the problem of the "quadratino"

could be a problem of sw conflict since they have all the same programs

 

[AntonioV]

could be a problem of sw conflict since they have all the same programs

That's why I advised you (in vain) to perform solidworks in temporary mode, so you don't load anything "alien" in memory, I miss the antivirus.

would be a way at least to circumscribe the problem, narrowing the number of possible guilty.

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[Brigno]

Your advice is not in vain....just until Monday I can't do it:wink:

ps: antivirus is not because I tried to disable it also I have always "excluded" from checking all files *.sld*

 

[re_solidworks]

I don't know what to tell you, and I don't understand what it was supposed to be. only that, as you already mentioned, after almost a year of use I am not fully satisfied with the t3500.. I expected a lot more. I find it undeniable that the old pc of house assembled with 800 euros goes better or even just equal (and on that yes there is installed of all a little).
the only tangible difference is to start swx64 that with win7 and xeon leaves almost immediately, while with quadcore "consumer", xp and all at 32bit it takes about ten seconds. for the rest during the work I do not appreciate improvements, and in order to have a sufficient fluidity in the assemblies I have to drastically lower the image quality and remove the black edges (the realview is unlikely).

greetings
Mar

I think the component that really speeds up is the hard drive. I have 3 workstations with ssd and do before those sas 15,000 or sata 7,200.
regarding the... I'm happy with my 5500, it cost me an eye but it's okay.
I have recently assembled 2 workstations and are gross equivalents
at performance spending almost half, but in the meantime it has passed one year and the 4000 picture compared to the 4800 cost much less with higher performance. I think the big difference is there.
Besides when the cpu has to pull out the balls of the more and xeon counts and makes a little difference. The only flaw is sas 15k, while on the others I ssd corsair.
the t3500 that chipset mounts? in the case of the t5500 I have an intel x58, same as the asus p6t ws pro of a workstation and the gigabyte x58 usb3 of the other 2.
so in the end if asus or gigabyte did not make big cappelle the speed should remain the same.
the asus mounts the cpu xeon, ram etc and has the sas onboard. You could do an equivalent workstation, but if you try less than half the cost...

the only flaw of my dell is the heating, if the cpu works very much warm (I saw 87°) and after various contacts with the assistance it seems that my office is too hot (20.8° max in this period).
this summer I launch an analysis with motion+rendering so if you have to die it is better to do it in guarantee... .