switch from the model to its table

[Utente NX]

Hi.
the passages I follow to move from the model to the relative putting into the table seem absurd, I hope to be wrong.
as suggested by siemens, I keep separate table model.
to do this switch, I follow these steps:
1)From the model select the windows menu and select its specification
2) once I do this I am in the modeling of specification
3)At this point from the start menu click on the 'nx drafting' application or type ctrl+shift+d

to move from drawing to model I carry out the same procedure on the contrary.

Doesn't that sound absurd?
We don't talk about it if I'm in the environment together and I'm changing a part and I have to go to the relevant table.

 

[IPdesign]

ever use the right button in the assembler?
with the make work part?
or modeling by clicking on the part navigator table?

 

[Utente NX]

ever use the right button in the assembler?
with the make work part?
or modeling by clicking on the part navigator table?

hi ipdesign, but you put the table in the same file as model 3d?
If you, then you can do as you say, but if you work with the master model method, as the siemens recommends, then your steps do not lead you to the table of your piece 3d.
strange that no one has collided with this absurdity.

 

[IPdesign]

first workpart on the father and then button desto.
However, it is not an absurdity, moving from a 3d to a 2d environment, it is obvious that you cannot do it in the same way.
there are cads that even have different file extensions for each environment. .

 

[IPdesign]

I forgot,

to move quickly from drafting to modeling and vice versa I opened toolbar apllication and select them drafting or modeling

 

[terzi88]

I customized the keyboard shortcut with f11 and f12
Very comfortable!!:finger:

 

[Utente NX]

all your suggestions refer to the non-use of the 'master model' approach, which siemens does not recommend in use.
I'm talking about having a modeling file and a feed file.
If I'm on the table, in the assembly navigator I see the reference part, and if I make 'make display part' or 'display parent', it opens the reference part, but I stay in the drafting environment (empty) and here I have to select the modeling environment.
If I have to move from the model to the table, I do 'display parent', where I stay in the modeling environment and therefore I must change the environment in drafting. as you see this is a goose ride.
To do what I want, we should get a paid macro.
the other cads, just to make of healthy controversy, do it with 1 command rmb.

 

[IPdesign]

all your suggestions refer to the non-use of the 'master model' approach, .

Wrong. I was referring precisely to the use of the master model

I never worked differently from the master model

 

[Utente NX]

Wrong. I was referring precisely to the use of the master model

I never worked differently from the master model

You're wrong....read what you wrote.
and since I don't know it...nx....if I do '...or modeling by clicking on the part navigator table?' means that you have the table integrated into the side file, which is not the 'master model' approach, as they would say those of siemens.

 

[IPdesign]

You're wrong....read what you wrote.
and since I don't know it...nx....if I do '...or modeling by clicking on the part navigator table?' means that you have the table integrated into the side file, which is not the 'master model' approach, as they would say those of siemens.

then we see to make a little order

I have a model file with 3d geometry
I create a new file in which I load the previous 3d model.
I put myself as part of work (work part) in the father file and create my own table.
So far, I think we all agree, don't we? I'm using the master model?

I realize that the 3d model must be modified? Good

• active modeling environment

• in the sidebar of the assembly navigator I find my 2 files, the father we call for comfort "table" and the son we call "model"
• if I do nothing the modeling is active but in the file in which we are working "table" there is no 3d geometry and in our case we cannot change the geometry present in the file "model"
• then we have to change the working part active on the "model" and to do this just click 2 times in the assembly navigator on the "model"
• now the "table" file is still seen in the assembly, but it turns out of different color = desectioned; we are working as a work part in the "model" file and we can change the geometry.
• once you complete the double-click changes on the table file in the assembly navigator and we are again working in the table file
• at this point to activate the drafting environment would only touch the table in the part navigator window and automatically we find ourselves able to put the quotas.

I'm sorry if the explanation was long, but I think it's the only way not to be misunderstood, if that's not enough, I can also make a movie:biggrin:

 

[Utente NX]

then we see to make a little order

I have a model file with 3d geometry
I create a new file in which I load the previous 3d model.
I put myself as part of work (work part) in the father file and create my own table.
So far, I think we all agree, don't we? I'm using the master model?

I realize that the 3d model must be modified? Good

• active modeling environment

• in the sidebar of the assembly navigator I find my 2 files, the father we call for comfort "table" and the son we call "model"
• if I do nothing the modeling is active but in the file in which we are working "table" there is no 3d geometry and in our case we cannot change the geometry present in the file "model"
• then we have to change the working part active on the "model" and to do this just click 2 times in the assembly navigator on the "model"
• now the "table" file is still seen in the assembly, but it turns out of different color = desectioned; we are working as a work part in the "model" file and we can change the geometry.
• once you complete the double-click changes on the table file in the assembly navigator and we are again working in the table file
• at this point to activate the drafting environment would only touch the table in the part navigator window and automatically we find ourselves able to put the quotas.

I'm sorry if the explanation was long, but I think it's the only way not to be misunderstood, if that's not enough, I can also make a movie:biggrin:

I did not read all your papyrus, but I immediately realized that if you activate your design from the part navigator you do not use the master model approach.
do all your sarcasm of the case, but the master model approach is the first thing that teaches you the technicians siemens italia and to you this thing is not yet clear to you... and I therefore wonder how you can be moderator of a high-end cad if you do not know the nx abc.

 

[IPdesign]

Guys, I don't know how to explain to me with nx user,
If someone can do it, I got tired...

I would also like to say that I do not know the abc.

no comment

 

[ceschi1959]

siemens and before siemens, ugs recommend the use of the master model for two simple reasons:
1) it happened, and not little often, that he 'sputtanava' the drafting and so beyond that the board had no longer even model 3d
2) (most important reason) when you load the drawing in assembly do not bring you behind drafting information with memory savings
the use of the master model also involves other advantages that I am not here to explain.
It seems to me that there are some misunderstandings in this debate.
ipdesign correctly described the shaft of the assembler navigator in case you open a part in master model and that is the father (the table). It seems to me that user nx opens instead a set of 3d models in which the tables are not loaded but only models.
The tables must therefore be loaded separately.
When I use this approach, first I put in place the 3d, then I open the 2d and I take that.
I hope I've been clear and I want to hope that the souls will be reassigned.
hello to all:smile:

 

[Sandra_ME30]

It seems to me that there are some misunderstandings in this debate.
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I hope I've been clear and I want to hope that the souls will be reassigned.
hello to all:smile:

thanks to you,
certainly for the explanation (beyond if valid or not from the technical point of view, I am not able to judge and certainly is not the aspect that interests me) but above all I thank you for the way you intervened.

I have already admonished nx user and hope not to have to do it with someone else.

Hi.

 

[The_Matrix]

Hi.
the passages I follow to move from the model to the relative putting into the table seem absurd, I hope to be wrong.
as suggested by siemens, I keep separate table model.
to do this switch, I follow these steps:
1)From the model select the windows menu and select its specification
2) once I do this I am in the modeling of specification
3)At this point from the start menu click on the 'nx drafting' application or type ctrl+shift+d

to move from drawing to model I carry out the same procedure on the contrary.

Doesn't that sound absurd?
We don't talk about it if I'm in the environment together and I'm changing a part and I have to go to the relevant table.

If you want to save a click and this makes you happy do this:
1) mb3 on the 3d file, in the anth and parent display on the 2d
2) ctrl+shift+d

Take a click a day and with him take the doctor back.. .
nx7.5 will make you happy, if you're a poki click fanatic.

try to learn all the tricks you need to open and manage a 2d quickly, you will need more than save a click.

 

[Utente NX]

If you want to save a click and this makes you happy do this:
1) mb3 on the 3d file, in the anth and parent display on the 2d
2) ctrl+shift+d

Take a click a day and with him take the doctor back.. .
nx7.5 will make you happy, if you're a poki click fanatic.

try to learn all the tricks you need to open and manage a 2d quickly, you will need more than save a click.

I already do so, as I described at first.
I complained about having to change the environment, since with parent display I go to the table, which we didn't do before... seen that we didn't use the master model approach and these extra clicks disturb us, since we are attached to the model and relative put in the table 8 hours before and this switch makes itself felt.
Anyway, I'm adeguin'.

Since you own the 7.5... will this be the case in 7.5?
when will it be possible to install it?
Are there any releases that you can read and then let them go to the managers to stimulate them to pass?
nx7.5 needs tc8.2 or is it good also 8.1?

 

[The_Matrix]

I already do so, as I described at first.
I complained about having to change the environment, since with parent display I go to the table, which we didn't do before... seen that we didn't use the master model approach and these extra clicks disturb us, since we are attached to the model and relative put in the table 8 hours before and this switch makes itself felt.
Anyway, I'm adeguin'.

Since you own the 7.5... will this be the case in 7.5?
when will it be possible to install it?
Are there any releases that you can read and then let them go to the managers to stimulate them to pass?
nx7.5 needs tc8.2 or is it good also 8.1?

Unfortunately the technique mm, having 1 extra file to manage, brings with it some disadvantages at the level of click.
to say the truth, personally, apart from the obvious gain of performance given by a partial loading of the geometries, I do not see any other advantage.

for information about 7.5 (news, compatibility, etc.) just get it, go to what's news and release notes. cmq the 7.5 is compatible with tc8.1 (minimum version 8.1.0.4)