T-flex

[Gabodisegni]

a greeting to all,
I would like to know your opinions on t-flex cad, if someone here in the forum uses it and what they think.
to me has intrigued a lot, I am about to buy a parametric cad 3d with a fea module, as many cad have.
I have this rose of choice between premium solidwork, solidedge, t-flex and alibre.
soon

greetings to all

Gabodigni

 

[marcof]

a greeting to all,
I would like to know your opinions on t-flex cad, if someone here in the forum uses it and what they think.
to me has intrigued a lot, I am about to buy a parametric cad 3d with a fea module, as many cad have.
I have this rose of choice between premium solidwork, solidedge, t-flex and alibre.
soon

greetings to all

Gabodigni

in the old cad3d, where there was a section dedicated to t-flex, after a presentation by a dealer who placed it at the levels of ug and catia I made several discussions and tests regarding the usability of t-flex, at least compared to swx.
My opinion was that it was one of the most farragginous cads I've ever tried. The sketcher was something hallucinating. after modeling in swx one or two parts that were provided as an example we had verified that the recalculating times in t-flex were a thing like 4-5 times that of swx at equal modification.
I do not know what and how much has changed at the level of work setting of the cad.
It's a pity everything's gone, but maybe if you enjoy something you can recover.
However you should try it as the demo is available

Hi.

 

[marcof]

in the old cad3d, where there was a section dedicated to t-flex, after a presentation by a dealer who placed it at the levels of ug and catia I made several discussions and tests regarding the usability of t-flex, at least compared to swx.

Hi.

qui http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=2929&highlight=t-flexThere's a little bit left of that mile discussion. I remembered that the t-flex sketcher in order to be controlled by quotas or constraints required to work with lines of construction on which to draw the geometry that would generate the solid, and to me it seemed a delirium, having in practice to do double of lines that served to the sketcer of any other parametric cad.

Hi.

 

[Gabodisegni]

Thank you, Marcof
first of all for the link, the discussion, interesting and I need to check this part of the program.
I received the activation of the roboal demo yesterday afternoon, I will try as soon as possible drawing a piece simulating a project.
I exchanged some mails with the Italian distributor who also cares about the location, they made me a good impression.
in the company I think it leans for swx, also x the greater diffusion and assistance etc. the t-flex solution is cheaper and on the interesting paper, I must try then let you know.

congratulations x this forum to all moderators

soon

mg mg

 

[Gabodisegni]

kind of
Marcof

Don't you remember the version you tested on the old cad3d?
Now I'm at v11.2xx, how engine they use parasolid. previous versions from 5 to 7/8 use acis...

greetings

mg mg

 

[marcof]

Thank you, Marcof
first of all for the link, the discussion, interesting and I need to check this part of the program.

as I said it is a pity that everything else is missing, because we had deepened well many issues succeeding in overcoming the approach a little too much from marketing of who had begun the thread.

I received the activation of the demo from roboale yesterday afternoon, I will try as soon as possible drawing a piece simulating a project
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I'll let you know.

I'm curious to know how the sketch environment works now. keep us updated:

Hi.

 

[Gabodisegni]

Okay.
I hope to be up to it, I have a skoda of those new ones that are wv, if t-flex goes like a uaz, we are fine.

greetings to all

mg mg

 

[cacciatorino]

in the company I think it leans for swx, also x the greater diffusion and assistance etc. the t-flex solution is cheaper and on the interesting paper, I must try then let you know.

Sorry, what figures are we talking about? because now that the market is a little asphyptic I also know of people who took swx with fem simulator (I don't know if complete or with some limitation) for about 5000 euros.


edit: sorry I saw that on the site they have the list: the price is 2500 euros.

 

[Gabodisegni]

t-flex starts from 2500 euros + VAT, for the basic module, then there are two add-ons for analysis and dynamics for an additional 3600 euros.
a list of premium swx have officially proposed it to 12300 ... 5000 I seem a few... the base starts from 1000 euros more.
At the price level I think it's a nice "bazar". .
As far as I am concerned, I find a good software for the kind of projects I have to do, then I will negotiate accordingly.

greetings to all
good cad-August

mg mg

 

[marcof]

kind of
Marcof

Don't you remember the version you tested on the old cad3d?
Now I'm at v11.2xx, how engine they use parasolid. previous versions from 5 to 7/8 use acis...

greetings

mg mg

I don't remember what it was, but it was the one available at the date of that thread that remained, so July 2005.
There will certainly have been improvements (and I would like to see) and performance will be improved, but nevertheless the difference imho was in the philosophy of work that, I have, was panic and I do not know how it changed; when I tried it to make some sort of variable table or relate quotas there was to make a rough medium. . .
I saw the novelties of the 11 on their site and it seems to me that they were introduced features that swx, if, inv etc were ten years ago...
I've been through for a long time ( fortunately) the rule of trying the various cad :smile:, but if I get a longing for the time gone maybe I unload the demo and try again

Hi.

 

[marcof]

kind of
Marcof

Don't you remember the version you tested on the old cad3d?
Now I'm at v11.2xx, how engine they use parasolid. previous versions from 5 to 7/8 use acis...

greetings

mg mg

I read now on their website this:" Version 7.2 released in 2002 now represents the maturity of t-flex"this used already parasolid so in 2005 I tried a more mature version I would say. .

Hi.

 

[Gabodisegni]

Sorry for the delay in the answers, I went to dinner with my beloved.
Okay, marcof, I still try these 30 days, they're left at uaz.
for general discussion, I also started with swx, I think it is the ideal software for 99% of the projects I work on.

as I repeat then looked around and I saw the "t-flex", solidedge, siemens nx6 (I think out of economic reach....) etc... After this moment, I think that by September then you will make a choice and with that solution you will go to work.

I have solidthinking from the first version on mac the 4.1 and to today with pleasures and sorrows (there are software that do better or worse..) I arrived at 8.0 boasting that release in September. all in all did that needed me.

night greetings to all

mg mg

 

[ShareMind]

It seems appropriate to inform the community and anyone interested that t-flex parametric cad is no longer distributed by ale robots, but by sharemind.
the release 12, of which is expected release at the end of November and available in beta, marks an increase of performance from 2 to 10 times compared to previous versions.
for the record, t-flex has always allowed the alternative between a classic sketcher (stile sw) and the use of building entities, which allow to introduce special geometric constraints, not manageable with a conventional sketcher.
information and features of t-flex are available on the site www.sharemind.eu.
any technical clarification is required.

 

[Matteo]

repeating here the speech started in another section, since t-flex intrigued me. two questions:

1) by fem analyst I noticed that the fem module is anything but "express", in fact seems very complete (it speaks of dynamic analysis!). Can you tell me more about the solutor? what is the degree of integration?

2) I would like to try the software, but not to install a version that will soon be exceeded (the 11, considering that according to the destroyer, sharemind, the new compilation will be much faster) I would like to know if it is already possible to try a stable beta of the 12.

 

[ShareMind]

Hello, matteo,

I am not an expert fem, and I can be of little help in this field. I still try to give you some information. standard t-flex is actually provided with a standard fem module, which allows basic analysis on individual parts. two additional modules, "analysis" and "dynamics". the first module includes static analysis, frequency, deformation, thermoanalysis and, in version 12, new studies for harmonic oscillation with cinematic excitement, fatigue analysis (gest-mohr, huber-mises-hencky, tresca-saint venant, damage to stress integrity, damage to equivalent stress, damage to main stress, total life in stress intensity equivalent, total stress-life always in version 12 new loads have been added (oscillator-surgent of vibrations, additional mass) and new possible constraints.
the dynamics module allows you to perform several simulations of dynamic behavior. as I said, I have no acceptable experience in these fields. I recommend that you try the new version 12, which is available in candidate release.
for security reasons, I can send you login and password of the ftp site via email.
write to me: pm@sharemind.eu, and good proof.

 

[cacciatorino]

If you agree, we stay in the area of the challenges between the cads, then tonight I create a new discussion in that area.

The reason is that in addition to t-flex I was interested in the parasolid speech and how it is implemented in the various cads.

Bye.

 

[Matteo]

it would not be bad to open a t-fex section (there is alibre and topsolid...) and a specific section for the kernel speech (although "equipped" users to fill it with content are not many).

 

[ShareMind]

I personally agree on everything.

 

[meccanicamg]

You didn't do the t-flex section anymore? I don't see her.





However, at present we are at version 14. the Italian distribution as that of other countries has not available on the official website the version to download in Italian language. also there is no list of companies that use it. only Eastern countries that use it a lot in companies have the version available in language.





it would be good that it was advertised more since in the end it does everything that companies in northern Italy design, especially those who design machine tools, systems for the processing of steel sheet, wire etc and all those who build machines where there are carpenters, plates, pieces from traditional mechanical processing.





had compared with solidworks costs much less. It's clear that some poop has t-flex.





for those arriving from inventor and solidworks I would say that he finds fatigue in the use of t-flex though if he detoxifies he can have a pleasant feeling to use it.





a little the constraints together are different as a concept and in the parts the series are not the maximum of slenderness and the table a little far-reaching but with the tutorials you can do so many things.


fantastic 2d and 3d bookcases really complete everything, not only screws and nuts but rotary seals, oring, special elements of various kinds, center holes, profiles, machining of gorges for grinding etc.

stable and inexpensive of resources such as ram and processor compared to its two direct competitors.





fem very simple to use and intuitive.



missing a design tool with mechanical calculations as it is on inventor.


little at a time I'm bringing it in time cutouts though it will take a while before accepting the new philosophy. We'll see what happens.