table with advance steel

[GianniM]

ciauz
I tried to use advance steel, I did only self-taught tests so who knows maybe some things don't understand.

I am very perplexed on the table of the executives. to make an executive as a section you must:
1) orient the ucts according to the need
2) save the orientation in case it serves at a later time
3) configure the press layuot so that advance steel insert section
4) set purely numerical parameters that define the position and direction of the section.
5) start generation

It is not possible to see where the section was made, it is up to the designer to verify that the generated section is consistent with the desired section point.

I want to make a prospect? I must start from point 1
I want to make a prospectus and a section that require different ucs and put them in the same table? It's impossible, you can't do it.

at the end the list of saved ucs will become as long as a highway!

it all seems very complicated, and with large spaces for potential errors. Is there someone who understood something more than me? I am a self-taught therefore, it is probably my fault that I did not understand the correct method.

ciauz
I tried to use advance steel, I did only self-taught tests so it's possible that

 

[cvdesign]

Good morning.
I deal with design and training for steel structures.
in the linkedin group that I invite you to visit you can find some answers; today on the autocad platform there are two software responses quite similar autodesk structural detailing and advance steel both in the release 2015.
for any questions do not hesitate to contact me.
cv design https://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostrecent=&gid=8143952&trk=my_groups-tile-flipgrp

 

[GianniM]

I found this official graitec video, it's a couple of years ago, but I don't think poprio changed anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afubllpl8hqin the video obviously everything looks very nice, but you see that the sections and the views are generated having as reference the mesh of the fixed wires. in the views there is no reference between a design and the other (e.g.: to indicate in the plant the point of the section, or to what a detail is reported).
the operator managed to preconfigure the ucs and save them, I did not understand how, so to call them quickly at the time of making the table. but the problems I had reported to the previous post remain all.

I noticed something else. around is full of videos about modeling with advance, which at the program is quite easy.
but on the table I found very little, if not the details of the individual parts. I am compliant to think that the graitec before and the autodesk now, avoid showing this aspect because it is the teddy heel of the program?

thanks to the suggestions cvdesign

now I have taken a quick look at the link of cvdisegn, as soon as I can look better.

 

[doking]

I don't know what you have to do.... .

 

[GianniM]

Hello docking!! !
I was talking about the table, I don't have anything specific to do. I'm just trying to learn. I was speaking in general about modeling and how to then embody the model in the table.

 

[doking]

advance steel has profiles for ready-made tables (output> manager suite), use those and choose the profile that suits you best. I always use "assembly selected conelemsub impsing a4" that creates the table of assemblies and individual elements and then quick documents on sheet a4, "advance> assembly view detail> detail v – elem.selez. noquot epes pospicdir" to get a table that shows me the model placed in an assonic view and the numbering of all elements, the model in this case I can also position it as best I prefer, after finding the position that suits me, make a ucs view.
the profiles contained in quick documents serve to do basically what you see in the video, of course I'm talking about the 2015 version

 

[GianniM]

thanks for the explanation. I'll do more evidence.

 

[GianniM]

Thank you. I'm guessing the logic, but unfortunately I'm not thrilled.
Maybe my fault, which I haven't deepened yet.

 

[>Iceman<]

Thank you. I'm guessing the logic, but unfortunately I'm not thrilled.
Maybe my fault, which I haven't deepened yet.

hi giannim, it is quite dangerous to be self-taught in these cases because, as you are demonstrating, you risk making a totally wrong idea only because you miss the procedure.
advance steel can affect 4 types of objects:
- single
- simblies
- rooms
- No.

after a numbering, you can use retail processes, these are automatic layouts.
you will find some processes with spuns close. these are to indicate a kind of your "preferred" recallable from the quick document command.

Ask if you need it.

 

[GianniM]

I returned to this software to get a little deeper.
I noticed that when I make a 3d table of a structure, and the profiles are not parallel to the main axes xyz but "stortes", some line does not appear. so the design is not always beautiful, beautiful, but a little "sgarruped"

It happens to you too, or am I wrong?

Bye-bye:wink:

 

[Xythras]

I think you should define a local reference system aligned with the beam, and then create the list by taking it as the reference system.

 

[GianniM]

I have already set the bird so that the view is correct.
the problem is that as long as I make assonometric views of vertical beams or simple horizontal beams come well.
but if there are 5, 6 beams with various inclinations, the program sometimes does not draw all lines.

 

[>Iceman<]

I have already set the bird so that the view is correct.
the problem is that as long as I make assonometric views of vertical beams or simple horizontal beams come well.
but if there are 5, 6 beams with various inclinations, the program sometimes does not draw all lines.

Bye to all,
How are you with interference?

 

[GianniM]

What do you mean?
I put profiles randomly, but that the interference if there are less does not change the result.
Maybe I have profiles that don't match because on different planes, but seen in prospect they pass one on the other.

 

[>Iceman<]

What do you mean?
I put profiles randomly, but that interference if there are less does not change the result.
Maybe I have profiles that don't match because on different planes, but seen in prospect they pass one on the other.

in the sense that a model, with the profiles that "know" one on the other, of course does not exist.
I do not mean in prospectus or in other views, I mean you forgot to make a joint or a workmanship.

in a model only with profiles (maybe modelled only for a maximum encumbrance or for a prioritization) I happen that, in 3d views jumped some lines, but because my model, it was not a "logical" model.

try to control interference with the appropriate command.
Bye.