is it likely that they double the number of hours actually employed, or sub-contracted to Eastern Europe, or do they work free trainees, boh????? Actually with 18 or 12 euro/h you just do not understand from where they jump out the money for coffee break sincerely. . .I take this old post among the many who face the topic because it is the one in which it was faced in the most in-depth mill.
I've been having to confront myself lately with realities that fight the price.
ergo, my request of 25-30 €/hour to design robotic and manual welding equipment is considered exosa.
argumentation is usually "others ask for 18 €/hour".
I also heard of people taking 12 €/hour for table harvests, all regularly turnover.
Now I wonder, but are we really at these levels? and, above all, how does one take those figures and work in order?
about your experiences? How is the current situation?
just working on a consuntivo you can do the crest on the hours, agree a half price of that market and beat us twice the hours....At least in two cases it is one p.i., I doubt that it can subcontract.
one, always to what they tell me, Works in conjunction. So he doesn't even have a way to get rid of the number of hours.
If we are really at this situation the situation is serious, there are people who struggle to live.
or, who should give me the job tells you to try to check a lower price.
To some point!just working on a consuntivo you can do the crest on the hours, agree a half price of that market and beat us twice the hours....
so it means that if you know how many hours you do and it offers you less than what gives to your employee by downloading on you even the cost of office software etc. is deliberately suffocating you.Well, who gives you the job will not be so unproven.
If I entrust you with a project that, according to me, requires 100 hours of work and you invoice 200 as a minimum I context the invoice.
That's exactly my impression.so it means that if you know how many hours you do and it offers you less than what gives to your employee by downloading on you even the cost of office software etc. is deliberately suffocating you.
the costs of when I had employees were soon made: salary Net to the employee x 13 monthly 1.450 € cost to my company 35,000€/year that want to say live cost 20€/h to which you have to add the 'rebalances' of all other expenses....
I don't do the free professional, but here's where my estimate of 50 euros / now about.
hypothesize that the person works 160 hours per month ( 8 hours x 5 days week x 4 weeks)
ipotizzo that can only invoice 100, the remaining 60 employed for job search, training, various practices are not invoiced. therefore gross turnover is 5'000 euro month.
from here you have to remove:
1'000 euro rent office, bills, and taxes
500 euro displacement (benzine + half amortization cost)
150 euro advertising and personal promotion
150 Euro training (courses, manuals etc.)
400 euro computer depreciation + software + various tools
300 euro problems, errors, non-refundable credits
total expenditure 2500 euro
net turnover = 5000-2500 = 2500 euro
now you have to pay contributions and income taxes that take away 40% approximately.
net income 2500 x 0.6 = 1500 euro.
However, the remaining 45 days do not produce income.
1'500 x 10,5 = 15'750 euro
an employee who perceives 1'200 euros per month for 13 monthly (the thirteenth is almost a monthly, mortgage does not have the 14th as many state), and the tfr, has an income of:
1'200 x 13,8 = 16'560 euro / year.
mine is a spannometric estimate, of a professional who works, 100% in order, without big patemi. as I said before you can reduce the rate, without affecting income, but only in a few cases.