telelavoro cam

[Tantocattivo]

Hello everyone,
I have a question to ask you, do you think it is feasible to entrust to people outside the company the processing of the cam?
in the company basically plan on board machine (round and cut) any 2d piece and also simple pieces in 3d, but sometimes they happen pieces with complex shapes and are forced to refuse work. the owner does not want to invest in courses and/or recruitment of new staff as the works of cam in 3d represent a minimal part of the corporate turnover, but if it were possible to externally entrust the part cam maybe there could do a little thought.
of course keep in mind that they are able to understand how to manage and change paths, so any changes could be made directly on the spot by the company staff.
What do you think?

 

[rinato]

you can definitely organize, but you should find a technical office, already "cam_munito", however convenient to reason us to 4 eyes when needed. It seems to me that it becomes complicated to agree with particular brackets or in any case non-banal things with skipe.
unless you always fornicate all the 3d (piece, rough, bite/staffe, obstacles, library tools/mandrini, cinematic etc).
it also happens that the finish is to be re-executed because certain quotas have not yet been reached in reality: new p.ut. "only from here to here" etc.

you think if then a collision occurs: but the tool was shorter...eh, but the extra bracket dampens my vibrations. . .go a bit to question with already only a calabrese (only for example, I do not have it with any of the above). etc.
if then the vs. 3d pieces are all stepped pyramids fixed on the magnetic plane, it is all more practicable.

What do you work in this case?

Greetings, reborn.

 

[SHIREN]

Hello everyone,
I have a question to ask you, do you think it is feasible to entrust to people outside the company the processing of the cam?

What do you think?

Hello so much.
in case a company is affected externally
obligation on the part of the company to which the work is entrusted
carry out its activity within the mechanical workshop or company that entrusts the work
the whole can also cover a part of the work
in the sense that you start the job you remain the necessary inside the workshop
it happens that everything proceeds well
the cam paths in telework sent with e-mail without realizing the operation of the workshop
are usually dangerous
Thank you very much

 

[rinato]

Besides, usually, there are the customizations of the "postprocessor" : that is what it serves/path to the operator, that the camcorder may also not be able to activate, and that those assistance could be paid apart...as obviously the basic postp for your machines (fanuc, heidenain, siemens, hurco...? )

In my opinion a small cam, not necessarily tebis et similia, you could evaluate it. I see you have solidworks: I suppose you have already considered their integrated modules for the cam would be ideal because it limits language changes, but if the case is limited, an autonomous cam could suffice. I'm going to piss in the workshop, I'm going to take him to the most slender, and that time a month you need, you can take advantage of it, even if it puts us twice the time of calculation or a complete cam.
(if you look for cam 3d free there is also something. . )

take into account one thing: There are programs that verify the iso generated for the cnc. i.e. they do not simulate the p.ut yet to prostprocess, but the final iso, especially to verify the ridges, the rotations 4° and 5° axis etc. (e.g. I know of the name vericut, but there will certainly be others). a technical office that followed you in "unmanned outsourcing" should, from its own point of view also have such a program, to parase the so-called. and then how much could he ask you?
Greetings, reborn.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

depends also on the batches to produce.
if it is a few pieces I see it a little complicated for the reasons already expressed by others, if we talk about nmila pieces maybe it is more feasible.
who makes you the cam must then come to the company, try everything and put it in place, then you entrust the job to the operator.

 

[julian79]

Well we in the workshop have 3 cam stations with toptron e12 and despite everything often we rely on a free professional who prepares us the p.u. and then sends the file to run in the car. and quite organized propio as programmer . with so much of fittings described to perfection with drawings of tools to do if neccesary etc., if one is good you can safely commission the work... If you want you can contact me in pvt, I can give you a tip. Hi.

 

[Tantocattivo]

I read your considerations and turned them to the owner, thanks to the help! cmq right to specify, they already know the language well, is to give the paths in 3d in mind that it is difficult (in some cases impossible). so the possible tuning phase could handle it very well.
I'll update you

 

[KSS Engineering Federico]

Hello everyone,
I have a question to ask you, do you think it is feasible to entrust to people outside the company the processing of the cam?
in the company basically plan on board machine (round and cut) any 2d piece and also simple pieces in 3d, but sometimes they happen pieces with complex shapes and are forced to refuse work. the owner does not want to invest in courses and/or recruitment of new staff as the works of cam in 3d represent a minimal part of the corporate turnover, but if it were possible to externally entrust the part cam maybe there could do a little thought.
of course keep in mind that they are able to understand how to manage and change paths, so any changes could be made directly on the spot by the company staff.
What do you think?

I answer you for direct experience, ns. company deals with external service cam, ns. customers turn the maths and we provide to deliver the file for the post-processed machine with all its listed prints.

we mainly work in the mold industry, so models are always quite complex.

the operator puts in the car the crude, center it, launch the programs and the game is done!

if there is need, we also care to draw and "cold" electrodes.

in the initial phase of the relationship with the customer (if you do not use the same cam software) you have to set the various machines, tools, tools. and if necessary create the postprocessors.

This type of service allows companies not to charge costs related to the cam (licenses, employees, various courses, updates...).

I hope I've been helpful.
If you need anything else, I'm here.

 

[filippo b]

service cam is very popular practice, especially in the mold districts. always.
all the problems listed in previous messages have only two causes: incoherence and inaccuracy.

after a decade in which it has been tried to bring all the programming cam inside the company (often succeeding us), in some there is a return to the external service, obviously with different needs and peculiarities regarding 3 locks ago.