text or quotas copied have graphic defects

[wuizze]

Hi.
I did a short research and did not find anything about it, use autocad lt 2008 and in some files (not all and do not understand with what criterion only some) if I copy texts or quotas, the copied items have a bad view, I attach an example on quotas.
as you notice to dx there are the original quotas and going to left those copied that are much more greedy.
When I go to the press, they're not greasy, but they look bold.
ok is not a great problem, but it is more a formal question, of principle.. .

Can anyone help me? ? ?

 

[PlannerRoad]

Does the copy occur within the same file?
Strange. . .

 

[wuizze]

Yes, within the same file with the autocad copy command, it also happens with the attributes of the blocks.

I thought of a system variable that over a number of texts/quotes lowers the resolution to lighten the file, but I didn't find anything, then it wouldn't make sense anyway because if I insert new quotas are displayed normally. . .
I also thought it was a problem related to the association of quotas, but it's not so and then it wouldn't explain why I do so also for texts and attributes... :frown:

 

[Tristan]

Have you tried to install the last service pack?

 

[wuizze]

Have you tried to install the last service pack?

I already have the isp1, I went to check and I also installed "non-unicade multiline text hotfix", but the problem persists. . .

 

[MaxiPT]

It is an old problem, apparently not yet solved (even in other forums as far as I am concerned).

in other furum it seems he the only solution found is flatten or resetting the z of the texts, but to me it does not work.

The only solution to my point is to make texts and quotas from scratch.

 

[wuizze]

It is an old problem, apparently not yet solved (even in other forums as far as I am concerned).

in other furum it seems he the only solution found is flatten or resetting the z of the texts, but to me it does not work.

The only solution to my point is to make texts and quotas from scratch.

!!! :finger:
for texts and blocks it works to zero the coordinate z, unfortunately you can not do so for quotas (which do not have position z in the properties); does not solve the problem at the root but I am amply satisfied with the solution "toppa"!! Thank you very much


I would love to know why autocad when copying elements in 2d moves them on the coordinate z... that it is one of those mysteries to be accepted by faith?

ps: I have seen that flatten is a command of the express menu to be installed by custom installation: do you know if you can add it without reinstalling the whole program?

 

[Joseph]

Are you using edit-copy/paste or modify-copy? because they are not the same as for precision; the second way is more precise

 

[wuizze]

Are you using edit-copy/paste or modify-copy? because they are not the same as for precision; the second way is more precise

use the command: _
the standard tool... so I believe edit-copy/paste, can I associate the instrument icon the other way (i.e. modify-copy)?

 

[numero1]

!!! :finger:

I would love to know why autocad when copying elements in 2d moves them on the coordinate z... that it is one of those mysteries to be accepted by faith?

ps: I have seen that flatten is a command of the express menu to be installed by custom installation: do you know if you can add it without reinstalling the whole program?

autocad sometimes quota in a real way, I tried it time ago.
or if you have to quote the space between 2 lines and one is on plan 0 and the other on that 100, the quota could be "storta".
or you really do it between 2 lines put on the zero, but then cover the quota going to put it on 1 line to 100.
you think it is in 2d because you see it from above (top view), but it is not so.

I personally followed this banal rule before starting a job on a not mine dwg and I knew It was to be in 2d.
1) all layers on and not blocked or freed
2) command _change sending, select objects _at sending, he asks you if to specify changes or properties _p (properties) sending, _and elevatedon sending, and he asks you a data; that data is zero, like the z, beats sending and you took off a lot of stuff (not all) that was previously scattered in space.

I said not all because for example. 3d blocks are not affected by this command.

just have the original cd and install it.

Hi.

 

[MaxiPT]

legendary! !
for texts and blocks it works to zero the coordinate z, unfortunately you can not do so for quotas (which do not have position z in the properties); does not solve the problem at the root but I am amply satisfied with the solution "toppa"!! Thank you very much

Please!

 

[wuizze]

I'll keep in mind... In fact now that you make me think in the drawings in which I found problems are always present elements of external origin, that is not designed by me.

Thank you.

 

[MaxiPT]

autocad sometimes quota in a real way, I tried it time ago.
or if you have to quote the space between 2 lines and one is on plan 0 and the other on that 100, the quota could be "storta".
or you really do it between 2 lines put on the zero, but then cover the quota going to put it on 1 line to 100.
you think it is in 2d because you see it from above (top view), but it is not so.

I'm not rusting!
the linear quotas are sepre "spiattellate" on the xy plane at altitude z-zero quating the respective x and y of the battuti points projected. even if it changes origin ucs with z different from the wcs. so if I have two points that have also z disverse the quota will always be the projection on the current xy plane and never the real distance between the beaten points.

 

[wuizze]

I agree with maxipt, although it is true that if I quoto for example a 2d block that is on a coordinate z=100 the quota is "splattellata" on the xy plane with z=0, at this point if I move the listed block on the z=0 plane, I also move the associated quota taking on the z=-100 plane; perhaps the problem found by number1 is for autocad and not for

Hi.

 

[numero1]

I'm not rusting!
the linear quotas are sepre "spiattellate" on the xy plane at altitude z-zero quating the respective x and y of the battuti points projected. even if it changes origin ucs with z different from the wcs. so if I have two points that have also z disverse the quota will always be the projection on the current xy plane and never the real distance between the beaten points.

I certainly do not want to contradict you, I have also spoken of "time ago", however if I quoti 2 vertices with z=0 and then cover the quota on a summit placed at +/- 100 the quota is moved on that xy plan, which then was the original problem that talked about copying.
what says wuizze refers undoubtedly to membership quotas.
try to create a rectangle on the plan 0 share it in an associative way, and then move it or copy it to 100.
I tried testè and the quota follows it, go to plan 100

Hi.

 

[MaxiPT]

I certainly do not want to contradict you, I have also spoken of "time ago", however if I quoti 2 vertices with z=0 and then cover the quota on a summit placed at +/- 100 the quota is moved on that xy plan, which then was the original problem that talked about copying.
what says wuizze refers undoubtedly to membership quotas.
try to create a rectangle on the plan 0 share it in an associative way, and then move it or copy it to 100.
I tried testè and the quota follows it, go to plan 100

Hi.

I didn't mean that, maybe I misunderstood your answer, I'll explain better for what I meant.
if I have a line with odds starting points x=0 y=0 z=50 and end x=100 y=100 z=100 and the ratio with linear quotas (wcs) in horizontal and vertical I will have the measured value for both of 100 even if the real length of the line is 150 (real distance between the real start end) as the odds refer to its projection on the current ucts.
even if I quote the same in a aligned way I have a value of 141,42 equals always to its projection on the current xy plane.
Plus, the odds are at z=zero, the current plan.

 

[numero1]

All right, what you write, I have nothing to do.
Keep in mind that when I was talking about "time ago" I was referring to:

1) an old version of autocad that had (maybe) this bug at times
2) to my memory (referred to the alleged bug of the old version of autocad)

Now in fact and for a long time it works as you described, I probably remember badly, or I took a remarkable chant, to hurt.
I don't want to have generated confusion in those who read, if that's how I apologize.

Hi.

 

[wuizze]

I tried to install the add-on express menu (the one with the command "flatten") of which we talked about some post back, but I am not given this possibility with the original cd.
sure it is a command available on the lt version?

 

[numero1]

ah no right, the express are not present on the lt version.
Sorry.
But you can do that, it should work. ....http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=18273&highlight=expressAlternatively you can use the method I suggested with the change command for e.g.
Hi.

 

[wuizze]

ah no right, the express are not present on the lt version.
Sorry.
But you can do that, it should work. ....http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=18273&highlight=expressAlternatively you can use the method I suggested with the change command for e.g.
Hi.

Okay, thanks.