Matteo
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According to me to lower prices it would be necessary to break the connection (just sometimes) between cad and plm. often we little ones pay the development of a product that has tangible potential only in a medium-sized business area.
found on the American forum:and if they use a double kernel as ironcad at least in a transition release?
Now I'm curious, I don't remember any orange brand, except for a flame :smile:These are the speeches that already made 10 years ago the commercials of a cad with the orange brand, of which we were unsatisfactory customers for about 8 months:biggrin:
chariot
100% quoteAccording to me to lower prices it would be necessary to break the connection (just sometimes) between cad and plm. often we little ones pay the development of a product that has tangible potential only in a medium-sized business area.
you don't need to drop the price....it makes a good promotion for a few weeks/month, already do so many :wink:once you rate the price... What's next for you to lift him up?
The ones with the cloud? we talked to the same people then, even the times they correspond! :biggrin:these are the speeches that already made 10 years ago the commercials of a cad with the orange brand, of which we were unsatisfactory customers for about 8 months
chariot
Sorry you're right, now it's not all orange like a few years ago.Now I'm curious, I don't remember any orange brand, except for a flame :smile:
Do you mean those who proposed not purchase but a sort of "nolege" of licenses? ? ?
to you nothing escapes:biggrin:The ones with the cloud? we talked to the same people then, even the times they correspond! :biggrin:
we have not become moderators because we are beautiful (inside)...:biggrin::tongue::mixed:to you nothing escapes:biggrin:
We also did these speeches, but we have distrusted and we have done well!These are the speeches that already made 10 years ago the commercials of a cad with the orange brand, of which we were unsatisfactory customers for about 8 months:biggrin:
chariot
we, however, at those times, had two big customers who had gbg and were treating the passage to ".....", we only agreed:frown:We also did these speeches, but we have distrusted and we have done well!
You had my own impression. . .in any case I remain of the idea that "...." had excellent potential, but it was too acerbic and unstable :angry:
if the prices are those of the "official" list you can also report them. if instead they are special conditions with personalized discounts for you maybe it is better not to be "reato", more than anything for correctness.I didn't write the prices because I don't know if you can, possibly if you discuss it in private.
In my opinion, it's more right that you write them the prices, so that you can also help other users to get an idea...yesterday I got the offer of autodesk products from our trusted supplier
just to have a chat, here are the proposals with some reflection:
1) suite inventor (which includes autocad mechanical, and other programs that I don't care for now), all-in-one price and a maintenance contract aligned with the various solids.... I read around.
2) autocad mechanical suites (with more than the usual programs that I do not know/interest, at least for the moment ), predicted as the inventor suitebut with maintenance contract practically halved.
3) autocad + third-party application for mechanics that counts to the hand costs 500€ more than the suite with inventor .... of maintenance there is no trace
I forgot. ... training course at a crazy price, is a good 40% more than the pre-offs of the various solids... .
I didn't write the prices because I don't know if you can, possibly if you discuss it in private.
chariot
I don't think so, because the seller would then be unfavorable to the competition he already knows his economic offer and we can rely on more competitive offers.In my opinion, it's more right that you write them the prices, so that you can also help other users to get an idea...
the price to list you can always say, while the price with the discount applied precisely is not correct, that is a trade negotiation between you is the dealer, the problem is very simple as you have already answered hunter, moreover it always depends on how much you buy and if you are a new customer and what kind of partnership you come to create.In my opinion, it's more right that you write them the prices, so that you can also help other users to get an idea...
should be all in the light of the sun I do not understand where the problem is:finger:
do not tell me that the application from third parties is called technometal otherwise I fire you in trunk :biggrin:
That's right. .I don't think so, because the seller would then be unfavorable to the competition he already knows his economic offer and we can rely on more competitive offers.
Your comments are correct and I also do not understand how autodesk can still sell autocad mechanical at those prices. It is good to push people towards 3d, but it is a price absolutely not congruent to the technology offered.yesterday I got the offer of autodesk products from our trusted supplier :tongue:
just to have a chat, here are the proposals with some reflection:
1) suite inventor (which includes autocad mechanical, and other programs that I don't care for now), all-in-one price and a maintenance contract aligned with the various solids.... I read around.
2) autocad mechanical suites (with more than the usual programs that I do not know/interest, at least for the moment ), predicted as the inventor suitebut with maintenance contract practically halved.
3) autocad + third-party application for mechanics that counts to the hand costs 500€ more than the suite with inventor.... of maintenance there is no trace
I forgot. ... training course at a crazy price, is a good 40% more than the pre-offs of the various solids....:angry:
I didn't write the prices because I don't know if you can, possibly if you discuss it in private.
chariot
because they can sell it to me is simple, they have a scary install!Your comments are correct and I also do not understand how autodesk can still sell autocad mechanical at those prices. It is good to push people towards 3d, but it is a price absolutely not congruent to the technology offered.
regarding the application of third parties it is necessary to reason for a moment. I, for example, have 2 top licenses of qs and it is convenient if you need mechanical features with a lt. at that point the price can go. if instead you combine it with autocad full.... Better let it go. the total price is too high.
I point out that inventor is also sold without suites and I think the price is around 4500 a list. in this case autocad is excluded.