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tips for new work (dependent - game iva)

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Hi.
a company that we have carried out my work has proposed to go to work for them ... at the moment it seems to be good both as employee and per game iva. I am a little fought but interested in the proposal because where business is not going well.
if I decide I would definitely ask for hiring but I would like to know and understand also the world of games iva ...
First of all how should I open the game iva, what code of activity? I'm an unwritten mechanical expert at the belly, so?
so what time cost I could ask (I would be oriented between 25/30€/hour) excluding travel, hardware and software ...I would have to work at their offices.
Does anyone have a draft contract to be drafted and proposed?

Sorry, it's the first time I've ever been and I don't know how to behave.
 
You have to be followed by a accountant and if you don't have it, I suggest you turn to the unions, who are quite informed and can give you the information you requested.
the hourly rate depends on what I went to do. If you do a senior designer job independently of the title you can ask 35€/h, if you do developer design jobs you can ask 20/25€/h VAT excluded.
the iva game is comfortable to deduct tools of work and software as well as gasoline etc.... but it is a ball that must be maintained. if you work as an employee don't beat you to make bureaucracy and pay you, what you agree, transfer, bonus, fuel, extra etc.
you can decide anything as long as the two parties agree.
 
Stemox said:
Hi.
a company that we have carried out my work has proposed to go to work for them ... at the moment it seems to be good both as employee and per game iva. I am a little fought but interested in the proposal because where business is not going well.
if I decide I would definitely ask for hiring but I would like to know and understand also the world of games iva ...
First of all how should I open the game iva, what code of activity? I'm an unwritten mechanical expert at the belly, so?
so what time cost I could ask (I would be oriented between 25/30€/hour) excluding travel, hardware and software ...I would have to work at their offices.
Does anyone have a draft contract to be drafted and proposed?

Sorry, it's the first time I've ever been and I don't know how to behave.
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a game iva, by definition, works for several clients. It is true that there are also so-called fake games iva.
when I was free professional I had more clients and, usually, the 'contracts' I made were offers to which he followed an order. for example: production machine juicer tot euri delivery between tot working days... every change in course of work tot euri and so on. I also did work with the customer, agreeing time commitment and hourly pay, transfer and so on. a contract cannot foresee an indefinite time commitment, such as tot hours a month until it is convenient. for what concerns the hourly pay 25 €/hour for we do 2000 hours / year make 40,000 € / year to which you have to remove 25.72 % inps contributions and to the remainder you have to apply the rates irpef (approximately 7000 €) for which you remain net in your pocket about 22.000 € i.e. a monthly pay of approximately 1600 € (22000/14 i. thirteen monthly with a tfr monthly). take into account that: 2000 hours are more than the hours normally worked by an employee (1800 approximately), no fees have been considered (commercialist, current account and other amenities of this kind), do not even make an hour of illness... you can kick in the marons when they want (this also with the new jobs act to say the truth).
Good luck. .

c.
 
I am allowed to correct
25*2000=50000€ instead of 4000
otherwise 40000/25=1600 hours
2000 hours = 166,6 month = 8,3 day (month from 20 working days)
1600 hours = 133,3 = 6,6 day

the monthly hours in the pay envelope in the metalmechanical contract are, if I do not remember badly, considered 164 to the detriment of the actual monthly days.
this only for duty of punctuation. remains that diseases, permits, vacations, computer problems and anything else are not paid and the customer cares nothing but that you are late with delivery.
 
thanks for the vs. considerations and advice.

I went to talk to him and asked him that I would prefer the assumption for the reasons you described.
I did not talk about figures because I am waiting for some info, but I did not seem so available to give figures out from the national contract. not to brag me but I am a year old working and in my sector I have some experience that will fill some gaps that they have. They are reorganizing the technical office and I can make my contribution.
not underestimating also that the request came from them..I am a little fought about what to ask (ne little and too much).
 
You could start by communicating what you're currently taking and see what they offer.
If they offer less in my opinion it is not a good sign. If a company, for a figure of a certain level, plays down for me did not understand a...... and is destined to involve itself, with all the consequences of the case.
 
there is also to consider that you are taking for granted that payments are punctual and regular.. ♪
 
TECNOMODEL said:
You could start by communicating what you're currently taking and see what they offer.
If they offer less in my opinion it is not a good sign. If a company, for a figure of a certain level, plays down for me did not understand a...... and is destined to involve itself, with all the consequences of the case.
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Let's see what I say tomorrow.
 
Of course it's obvious...but since they're looking for me something more is lecitus. then we will discuss it because I will tell him the truth.
 
everything beautiful and true in an expanding economy where the demand for designers is high, but in Italy the offer of designers I think is now superior to the offer of available places
 
MassiVonWeizen said:
I am allowed to correct
25*2000=50000€ instead of 4000
otherwise 40000/25=1600 hours
2000 hours = 166,6 month = 8,3 day (month from 20 working days)
1600 hours = 133,3 = 6,6 day

the monthly hours in the pay envelope in the metalmechanical contract are, if I do not remember badly, considered 164 to the detriment of the actual monthly days.
this only for duty of punctuation. remains that diseases, permits, vacations, computer problems and anything else are not paid and the customer cares nothing but that you are late with delivery.
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that figure of c@cca 25x2000=40000 :36_1_4::tongue::tongue::tongue::
thanks to the correction.
 
stevie said:
everything beautiful and true in an expanding economy where the demand for designers is high, but in Italy the offer of designers I think is now superior to the offer of available places
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It's true the opposite: Italian companies struggle to grow by impossibility to find engineers and graduates on the market in the number they would need, and this simply because itis and university are not enough. It's my personal experience in which to find a new graduate I had to call at least twenty before I find one available, it's what my clients tell me, and' what I felt today on radio24 that reported news for which Italian companies now leave uncovered a place on 3 for graduates and one out of 5 for graduates (it's about graduates and graduates in technological field of course).
 
cacciatorino said:
It's true the opposite: Italian companies struggle to grow by impossibility to find engineers and graduates on the market in the number they would need, and this simply because itis and university are not enough. It's my personal experience in which to find a new graduate I had to call at least twenty before I find one available, it's what my clients tell me, and' what I felt today on radio24 that reported news for which Italian companies now leave uncovered a place on 3 for graduates and one out of 5 for graduates (it's about graduates and graduates in technological field of course).
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there would be a long speech about why Italian companies do not grow, and we say that the absence of qualified personnel would be the last of the problems if there were not before all the others... (among them exasuous taxation, bureaucracy oppressively, lack of services and infrastructure, etc.).
all things said and laughed thousands of times, but of which it does not matter clearly to the political class.
This continues, year after year, with Italy in perennial structural crisis, and with the industrial desertification that continues unstoppable by now.
not by chance companies that go well often, once reached a certain size, open offices abroad and then completely relocate .
 
conditions offered not defined...

contract per game iva
22€/h
8 hours/g. min.
s.a.l. monthly
monthly payments 30 days dffm

in practice that I remain? ...only work 10-12 hours/day

:frown:
 
Stemox said:
conditions offered not defined...

contract per game iva
22€/h
8 hours/g. min.
s.a.l. monthly
monthly payments 30 days dffm

in practice that I remain? ...only work 10-12 hours/day

:frown:
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Are the tools of work (computers and licenses cad and office) yours or the customer? If they give them to you, we say it's the normal market price of the Italian center, if you have to provide, you should ask for something more.

If you're a single-client, then I think after a while you can do the dispute and get yourself hired to t.i. :
 

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