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toroidal strap transmission

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good evening to all, I managed in an empirical and absolutely unmanageable way, to build a round strap that works on 2 pulleys rotated by 90°. is there someone who has already faced this problem? . .
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... I try to attach my alborate as a point... (even if I'm ashamed as a thief! ! :rolleyes:)

p.s: buona pasqua a tutti!!

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... I try to attach my alborate as a point... (even if I'm ashamed as a thief! !:rolleyes:)

p.s: buona pasqua a tutti!!

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I can't open your ipt. siccuramente e inventor 2019/2020.
However, I have attached my attempt. Give me a boner and tell me if it can help. you can play with the size.. .
 

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I have done some adjustments and some small correction and it is perfectly manageable!!
(y)(y) thanks!!

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did you make it by setting geometric constraints or by adapting it to the eye?

(I tried for a while, then I decided to postpone. )
 
...no, it is bound and parameterized in a very predictable way!
the solution lies in the basic approach: I fixed myself to get it with a single spline while he built it in pieces. . .

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I am curious to know how to establish where the strap stops following the throat of a pulley and "decide" to go towards the tangent of the other. The picture is very beautiful, nothing to say, but I wonder what is the real trend of the axis of the belt. any part of its path lies on the orthogonal plane to the axis of the belt, or follows the pulley for more or less 180° and then begins to flench and turn towards the other? It's just the "more or less" compared to the 180 degrees of winding I can't see. Let's figure it out!
I realize that for the purposes of depiction my question is influential, I only ask it for curiosity. ..geometric
 
//..... the depiction is very beautiful, nothing to say, but I wonder what is the real trend of the axis of the belt. any part of its path lies on the orthogonal plane to the axis of the belt, or follows the pulley for more or less 180° and then begins to flench and turn towards the other? It's just the "more or less" compared to the 180 degrees of winding I can't see. Let's figure it out!
I realize that for the purposes of depiction my question is influential, I only ask it for curiosity. ..geometric
..si, indeed my enthusiasm for the cast16 solution (see Annex) is only partial. :rolleyes:
appearance is great, as well as management. . ...ma... ..the incoming and outgoing twist from the pulleys is not "real". and it is not a secondary detail because the shape of the "swimming" of the throat should be derived precisely from the "tangence+torsion" of the belt to avoid the harmful friction of sliding (.. which are then the main problem of this kind of transmission and reason of my post...)the solution passes, as always, by a mathematical model that, as wttm says, is not at all easy to conceptualize!. But I don't despair! :

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the solution shown in the video is very brilliant (as it has arrived he knows only...).

I have the impression, however, that it remains a "esthetic" realization more than realistic than the path of the strap.

I tried to describe the function mathematically, but then I let it go. having to solve this problem, I think writing a specific optimization program could give the best result at the lower work cost.
 
....(as he has arrived, he knows only...)... .
..in the "sweep" function of 2020 there is a "tortion" option. I thought that was the key, but sincerely, after so many attempts, I didn't understand exactly what it does and how it works. . .

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