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Hello everyone,
my name is alessio de matteis novice of this beautiful "place ".
I ask the help of some good soul who can explain in elementary way to a person like me equipped with good manual but absolutely fasting of mechanical knowledge how to solve the problem referred to in question. In particular I must build an "electric file " for which I had thought of a tool that transforms the circular motion in linear, I preview that the equipment must remain in motion for about 30/40 minutes uninterruptedly of which 80% of the time not under effort, I would therefore need in particular a motor that does not bother as to noisy ' and the possibility of change of the turns from 0 to age....

5/10 kg weight to be moved
0- 150 jokes per minute of the online motorcycle
10/15 cm linear movement race

my incompetence has made me imagine something like biella and crank but accept other suggestions if feasible such as electric pistons/cylinders or anything else
 
Hello everyone,
my name is alessio de matteis novice of this beautiful "place ".
I ask the help of some good soul who can explain in elementary way to a person like me equipped with good manual but absolutely fasting of mechanical knowledge how to solve the problem referred to in question. In particular I must build an "electric file " for which I had thought of a tool that transforms the circular motion in linear, I preview that the equipment must remain in motion for about 30/40 minutes uninterruptedly of which 80% of the time not under effort, I would therefore need in particular a motor that does not bother as to noisy ' and the possibility of change of the turns from 0 to age....

5/10 kg weight to be moved
0- 150 jokes per minute of the online motorcycle
10/15 cm linear movement race

my incompetence has made me imagine something like biella and crank but accept other suggestions if feasible such as electric pistons/cylinders or anything else
Hi.

The data is a bit generic you should post a sketch, from a first analysis I think the times are quite fast.
150 battures per minute are 2.5 jokes per second that for the move comes a remarkable speed, if I understood well what you would like to do.

Mar
 
Thanks marco, first of all for the very good answer, I try to post a simple sketch from which I hope you can get what you need.
Thanks again
 

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Thanks marco, first of all for the very good answer, I try to post a simple sketch from which I hope you can get what you need.
Thanks again
It's okay, it's just how I imagined it's vertical.
However regarding the alternating motion that is a valid system and I believe the most reliable for the alternative seghetto type application. to calculate the number of turns it is sufficient that you start from the linear speed in m/sec and you get the number of turns. But then there are the masses moving the frictions.
What do you need to know?
 
...so I thought I was working on the flywheel with various holes to determine the amplitude of the race, but the real problem is quite practical:
- what kind of engine
- how (and especially with what ) determine the number of turns
- what to use for leverage/cuscinets
- where to buy this kind of material
all this to prove that I am really zero as knowledge
Thanks again
 
...so I thought I was working on the flywheel with various holes to determine the amplitude of the race, but the real problem is quite practical:
- what kind of engine
- how (and especially with what ) determine the number of turns
- what to use for leverage/cuscinets
- where to buy this kind of material
all this to prove that I am really zero as knowledge
Thanks again
Clearly all appropriate questions, but as it is done to give certain information without knowing the size of this equipment for the motor you have to calculate the masses to establish a leverage size and idem bearings without knowing the size as you make to establish to buy is the last of the problems. If you don't make a maximum project,
It's a short road. all this in a very simple way because then there will be guides to contain the movements a base an electric part.
You have to put down a maximum project and then you can discuss it.

Mar
 
Come back. . I just hope I don't waste too much time, I understand your doubts that are obviously legitimate and that ..but... ..they punch my "ignorance" in this matter....I'll have to provide you with as many details as possible, however, including until now that if I don't have answers ..it's all justified.
therefore the end of the "machine " is to apply between motor and final part a particular file that serves to rough up the materials I use to build .
I consider that the weight to be moved as I said initially will be 4/5 kg, the total encumbrance intended as length will be 1.5 meters and that the rods to be used will have to be the size of a finger finger.
In fact, with regard to the bearings and how well I know that I will have to go for attempts, what really is obscure to me... is the type of engine to use....ac... more than..... what kind of device to use for the modification of the turns....
thanks anyway for the advice you can give me
 
Come back. . I just hope I don't waste too much time, I understand your doubts that are obviously legitimate and that ..but... ..they punch my "ignorance" in this matter....I'll have to provide you with as many details as possible, however, including until now that if I don't have answers ..it's all justified.
therefore the end of the "machine " is to apply between motor and final part a particular file that serves to rough up the materials I use to build .
I consider that the weight to be moved as I said initially will be 4/5 kg, the total encumbrance intended as length will be 1.5 meters and that the rods to be used will have to be the size of a finger finger.
In fact, with regard to the bearings and how well I know that I will have to go for attempts, what really is obscure to me... is the type of engine to use....ac... more than..... what kind of device to use for the modification of the turns....
thanks anyway for the advice you can give me
it is not a matter of losing time or not everything depends on the project the engine will have to be coupled anyway to a reducer or to a reduction in belt, gears, etc. the variation can be made with an inverter or a motorchanger or other. for levers and bearings to go to attempts doesn't really seem a good thing to me, as I said the project serves precisely to avoid the attempts and money they throw.
I repeat you have to make a project choose the elements and then post and everyone will give you their ideas and advice, so you know well that it is not easy to give directions.
I'll be able to seem reticent, but I personally don't know what else to tell you.

Mar
 
Hi alessio,
place so the problem is difficult solution. We have nothing concrete in our hands to make accounts, audits etc. other thing, do we do the project or do you do it or do it to a specialized company?

we pass to the technical side: oscillating sanding machine consists of:

- three-phase or single-phase asynchronous engine (if you only have 230v): x rpm, power y kw
- endless screw reducer (economic fixed ratio): size and reduction ratio
- bench bearing system to mote the flywheel with variable radial drilling to determine the different running of the rows
- pair of tempered bars with ball recirculation sleeves on which the file is mounted
- front and back support for bar fixing
- screw extendable biella to adjust the travel translation
- cutting force with which to dimensional the whole (motor and reducer and various bearings)
- fixed or adjustable top to support the sticks (I think you mean those of the garrubs you want to row)
- protection and safety systems
- electric frame with a thermal and a piltz for standard protections
- declaration of conformity, risk analysis, liability for residual risks, machine manual including electrical and/or pneumatic scheme if desired.

We wait for more information. I have listed you how much you need, grossly or I would say it's the cheapest. I think it's good to think about a completely different system. if you tell us the process of processing and give us an idea of your product I believe that some milling or machine specific to the industry already exists ready.

greetings
 
but I don't know how much a mechanical or hydraulic machine can be used, and above all it's quite a second hand.
I think he wondered about a possible cinematic solution and that of glyph is definitely suitable for purpose. Moreover it is perfectly working "for centuries". There's nothing to invent, if anything to "adapt."
alessio is not looking for a used car (correct me if I'm wrong), which however are also found "at price", but just a design solution.
and could base all the study starting from that system.

greetings
Marco:smile:
 
but I don't know how much a mechanical or hydraulic machine can be used, and above all it's quite a second hand.

We should understand exactly what it has to do with special stalk that goes back and forth.
Well, I said... .
...
I must build an "electric file " so I had thought of a tool that transforms the circular motion into linear,...
the filer actually does exactly this
It's an "electrical file", and since you have to build it the best way is to use the oscillating glyph. :finger:
 
Of course the file machine is an electric file with a small modification.

given the little information about what it has to do, I realized that it has to spy on a side on a ø12/14 mm stick. If so I would say that the fact of using the row that oscillates is not the ideal solution. for this I have remained skeptical from the beginning about the biella crank.

I believe that for every job, you need to find the optimal equipment at all points of view.

probably with the file removes a lot of material and does not make the wood black, but they must be evaluated and compared with an electric tape with very big grain sandpaper (40).
 
thank you guys are moving for the help you try to give me despite the little information I can give you. I thought the matter was much simpler, and now I'm starting to get worse on terms such as projects or certifications. Now to avoid everything I try to attach an image sent to you by a friend of mine who had already built one that had the purpose of " chiselling" rather than rowing, in my case I would only add the final part to support the oscillating bar and the central file.
I hope with the image that I finally managed to give an idea while I continue to thank you for the help.
good August to all
 

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I forgot to say that adapting a machine would not be a problem, if, for example, I found the system to make linear motion in return the continuous one of a portable planer, moreover changing the speed of racing I would have solved my problems.
Thank you.
 
thank you guys are moving for the help you try to give me despite the little information i can give you. i thought the matter was much simpler, and now i'm starting to get worse on terms such as projects or certifications. now to avoid everything i try to attach an image sent to you by a friend of mine who had already built one that had the purpose of " chiselling" rather than rowing, in my case i would only add the final part to support the oscillating bar and the central file.
i hope with the image that i finally managed to give an idea while i continue to thank you for the help.
good august to all
i think a wiper motor was used.
normally these scooters have an "alternate" operation (do not make a complete turn).
can you confirm?
 
but contact a designer in the area and expose him to the problem?
I understand that it costs, but so without knowing what the car will have to do, efforts ran and what else I see very hard, so it risks throwing money if it had to undertake the construction.
qmq to turn the rotary motion into oscillating the best solution is the oscillating glyph, perhaps coupled to a variator will have the possibility to be able to vary the strokes per minute and the ride
 
or you can buy a few tens of euros an alternative seghetto, and start cuffing on it. there you have a correctly sized motor for a well-known effort, and also some mechanisms.

test, mount, disassemble, try again (without hurting you, because it decays as soon as you open it and loose a few lives), and in the end you will have a functional apparatus and so much experience to design a former novo.
 
or you can buy a few tens of euros an alternative seghetto, and start cuffing on it. there you have a correctly sized motor for a well-known effort, and also some mechanisms.

test, mount, disassemble, try again (without hurting you, because it decays as soon as you open it and loose a few lives), and in the end you will have a functional apparatus and so much experience to design a former novo.
That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
 

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