use of the graphic tablet in autocad

[liber]

I would now open a program to vectorize images and work

the archaeological design wants a precision I would say millimeters equal to a mechanical design, with a program of vectorization is something that I use with the maps of the catasto, but those of high mountain, and it is useful only where there are no urban centers and houses, and since I make paths, metro more ' meter less they do not want the accuracy of an archaeological relief, before I worked also as an archaeological background and I assure you that the archeologheva color ... alluvial sandy of the cretaceum.... years have passed since that day, but I still laugh at the only memory of the scene....

 

[Tristus]

the archaeological design wants a precision I would say millimeter equal to a mechanical design

I don't doubt it, and how work is definitely exciting. Moreover, that of the archaeologist is also a work of investigation, that is to be able to understand the shape of the buildings, as they were built and how they are evolved over time. what made me think at first is why drawn by vectorizing lines.
from what you wrote, I realized that you most likely put the lines of the drawings on various levels, so that you can reconstruct the phases that have seen birth and die an ancient artifact, and at this point the vectorization can meet your need.

then better work with polylinea, as you said, and then select the polylinea and right-click it as a spline. the lines will be softened and the result will be less heavy than building it with the sketch command, which if not set well can give rise to a lot of small segments. and it is precisely the large number of segments that are often created to weight the design.

 

[Tristus]

Here are very good users, so much of a hat, but they don't know what an archaeological design means.

whether for archaeology or otherwise, always work of vectorization is. We're talking about that. of the rest of the work no one wants to enter the merit.

 

[liber]

no tristus, the archaeological relief even if you do topographic relief we say normal, leaning to the trust points, trigonometric points, making a sowing of points to define level curves etc. etc., here is all you do to say wide extensions, you have to apply it and concentrate in a reduced portion, and it has to be decidedly precise and detailed, you use the miniprisma of maximum height 10 cm total, or the adhesive
do the topograph, but in a very detailed way, the jokes that were made in the yard were like the threats, "" I move that stone and you are forced to redesign it"" to demonstrate how much you have to be dotty, or the joke to the rod turn when before you make the general relief with normal rod and we found maybe in the vicinity of the sea was to say to the boat, that he had to go in the "batch"

here is a great we say manual excavation and archaeological relief

https://gruppiarcheologici.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/scavo.pdf

 

[liber]

so you can see from those drawings above you have to be folded all day, instead with a "aircraft" like the one described and for every square put at least 4 points, the photo realized and with raster design and with the coordinates from topographic relief you straighten the photo and drawings the excavation, pier46 with the graphic tablet more or less I think it drew the same, with the graphic tablet i.e. autocad overlay now raster design, anyway with autocad 14+cad overlay I think that version for archaeological relief is the best compared to today's, (personal speaking) however now you have raster design that is fine the same and still you have only that! ! !

 

[liber]

then better work with polylinea, as you said, and then select the polylinea and right-click it as a spline. the lines will be softened

in archaeology the design is that and stop!!!soften the polyline! ! ! is how to hang in church

 

[Tristus]

in archaeology the design is that and stop!!!soften the polyline! ! ! is how to hang in church

if you use the polyline command instead of the sketch command means that you also soften the lines. to soften I meant to decrease the number of segments that make up the line (i.e. you do with the polyline command) otherwise the sketch command makes you a lot of segments. Moreover adapting the polylinea as spline (selections the poly, right button, and then suitable as spline) go to smooth the corners and you can always adjust the spline going to move the control points to make it coincide with the tract in the background.
Anyway, you can do some evidence.

returning to the relief speech, I imagine you have to do a job as a dummies. I have seen how you work, every little detail is important and everything needs to be cataloged. I wonder, why not use photogrammetry to bring the relief back to the plant? At least the reliefs that have large extensions. because I imagine that the work of Carthusian you have just described it, especially when there is also to be noticed the smallest details of a finding, when it concerns small areas of soil.
in the sense that what you need to focus on small areas is rightly required all the attention you have described. For example, I find an ancient vase, reversed and with what was the content scattered around the vase. at that point the area to be detected is small and must act millimeterly. when the area is more extensive, like mapping the entire site, then the photogrammetry is of great help. always in concert with the reliefs made with electronic instrumentation, bensi.

 

[liber]

if you use the polyline command instead of the sketch command means that you also soften the lines.
returning to the relief speech, I imagine you have to do a job as a dummies. I have seen how you work, every little detail is important and everything needs to be cataloged. I wonder, why not use photogrammetry to bring the relief back to the plant? At least the reliefs that have large extensions. .....the work of Carthusian who you have just described above all when there is to detect even the smallest details of a finding, when it concerns small areas of soil.
in the sense that what you need to focus on small areas is rightly required all the attention you have described. For example, I find an ancient vase, reversed and with what was the content scattered around the vase. at that point the area to be detected is small and must act millimeterly. when the area is more extensive, like mapping the entire site, then the photogrammetry is of great help. always in concert with the reliefs made with electronic instrumentation, bensi.

Perhaps I have not explained, the relief is generally framed in c.t.r. 10,000 and if possible in a scale greater 1:2000 or 1000, even in the catastral if it is for this, but the real work is precisely in the 1x1 meter squares, and no matter how the extension is, is that the work, the time to employ. . as he said eistein is relative ..., an illusion, that in this case for a dig you can take years to make drawings, it is not a relief of a zone built to the expansion go and you take the points that profit you, when it is precisely from ricxxx and before the advent of the pc they did everything by hand, there are drawings that just beyond the excavation you see the artistic hand and the detail to which some However a fascinating world, as said on the subject for them would suffice autocad 14 e autocad overlay for work to do, however it sketch You can only use it if you have a surgeon's hand, I used polylinea and since I could do the zoom I made the polys very close to the right points, now you have the grip first not, but if you have speed you always do it with the old polylinea system not with the spiline, and then you set up, you do it first time before you set up the drawing later.

 

[liber]

However now my work is always equal but I have changed say branch and I am dedicated to the mountains, forests, ec paths, use autocad map for a territorial management, so in I have passed from the precision millimeter to the one with much tolerance, in fact when I am transited and taking the measures with that style, a colleague told me, you are no longer to make archaeological relief, but paths and therefore up to 10 meters you can make me wrong (I know it was said to exaggeration

 

[Tristus]

I understand the work of the quad.
But I don't understand the need to work as the archaeologists of the 19th century did, who also had to be tried designers. not by chance, in fact, often in the expeditions, photographers and designers were carrying.

on the tomb of tutankamon made a laser relief, and from the relief obtained they noticed details that until then escaped the human eye. in particular a door that would have been walled. to tell you the precision and accuracy of the reliefs made with modern instrumentation.
You have a 3d model at the millimeter and maybe even more, but can be consulted at any moment.
Well, of course, sometimes some customs are hard to die.

 

[liber]

Well, of course, sometimes some customs are hard to die.

I have to say... I am sorry that the following opinion generally concerns archaeologists, not the owner of the initial post, but archaeologists.... are archaeologists.... it is already so much that they make you use the pc detector, otherwise if you find one attached to the roots, you find yourself to draw with a palette, with gloss paper, millimetre and pencil, other than 3d, laser and computer,

 

[Tristus]

the archaeologists want the final result and must be palpable, touch with hand, of virtual not to mention it,

the harsh habits to die exist in all fields. There are photographers who look suspiciously at digital, for example. they don't have all the twists, but only because digital (at least until a few years ago) was a technology that was evolving. when I bought the first digital room the sensors of the "emies" of those brands did not exceed the 5 megapixels. stuff that today, if you give a cell phone with only 5 mp to your granddaughter you do it.

harry burton, the photographer who took pictures of the discovery of the tutankamon tomb made black and white photos that are still today studied by archaeologists, as they are well defined. taken in light conditions not always favorable, so it also had to create the lights. other difficulty. Yet they were black and white and developed on glass negatives. film, at that time, was a technology in development. and they were so sharp and well defined that today, to achieve such a definition, we would need the best sensors and several megapixels. a few years ago it was impossible to match them with digital.

It is not true that digital does not give palpable results. think about 3d printing, for example. you have a three-dimensional model and you print it by duplicating it. or even 2d printing, the new technologies serve this.

 

[Tristus]

It seems impossible that they are photos taken in 1922.
photos with such a definition, and with so many shades of gray that when they went to apply the color they got these wonderful results.
And here color technology doesn't count so much because if you don't have a good photo to process you'll never get these results.
Harry burton was a master of photography.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewtuc...utankhamuns-tomb-have-be?utm_term=.npv2vj4n0e

 

[liber]

in fact on arguments like these there is much to discuss, however the author of the ropicfore46 seems to have disappeared in the end is his work i or it is since 2006 that I do not make archieolic reliefs and drawings, now I have the management of 44 thousand km of territory at cartographic level and use autodesk map 3d, although I have to be sincere I am carrying everything in qgis that in fact for a territorial control is decidedly the appropriate tool, because I use autocad, only because I started with this software and abandon it seems to leave it fore46 hai risolto?

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[PlannerRoad]

....even if I must be honest I am carrying everything in qgis that in fact for a territorial control is definitely the appropriate tool, because I use autocad, only because I started with this software and abandon it seems to leave behind a part of me....

same path I'm doing!