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[dado_che]

Good morning! I am approaching the variants to try different solutions on a wooden canopy, I realized the starting base (a flat cover in c.a. a terrace and some stairs) that I have to cover with the structure, I set two solutions, but when I work on them I can not set the sections as I want, to check the heights etc.. When imposed you see them as the main model, with gray contours and nn I can interact with the cutting region, the same thing with the section pane of the 3d. maybe the views are somehow tied to the main model.. Thank you! !

 

[gfrank]

to manage the variant you must:
with open variant panel
- select the variant
- button: change variant
- close the variant panel (button close)
- make changes
- reopen the panel (project changes)
- button: end change
- close the variant panel (button close)
to display it after closing the panel, you also have to make it primary.
to make it definitive, you must "accept it" (both accepts primary) and the other variants will be eliminated.

 

[dado_che]

Thank you so much I will try!

 

[Reg_Rev]

help.. .

I have a wall that represents me the model and want to try on this different solutions of windows, openings etc.

I can only add elements in variants? if my variant is an example
the modification of a wall opening in the main model or the choice of different windows, do I have to reconstruct the wall for each design variant?
as well as roofs, floors etc.

Thank you.

 

[Reg_Rev]

in addition to the first message,

If one decides to demolish a wall of the "main model" only in a design variant?

 

[gfrank]

provided that you can change everything (or almost) in the variant, the main purpose of the variants is to optimize the work, without "demolire" all the main model.

In general, in my opinion, variants must/can be addressed to partial changes, such as presenting various types of internal divisions of the same building.


in the case of the windows, if you feel to overturn their positioning (all) in the main model, it is appropriate that in the main model are not present, and the positioning you will do in the variants

 

[gfrank]

in addition to the first message,

If one decides to demolish a wall of the "main model" only in a design variant?

... the question, what is it? ....

 

[Reg_Rev]

in fact I was a little confused,

I have a building that represents my main model derived from a factual state,

1) Can I e.g. to an external wall insert a type of window into a variant and another type of window into another variant?

2) in one of the different variants of project I decide that a hustleness does not have to be, how do I ? (if I remove the "only active" check to eliminate the hustleness cmq me remove it in the main model and not only in the selected variant )

on the manual I think I have read that it is possible in variant to add only elements and not to remove them to the main model and also that owners cannot be added to other elements of the main model e.g. a window to a wall of the main model.

Is it actually like that or am I wrong to use it and conceptually?

Thank you.

 

[gfrank]

the logic of variants is to propose alternative solutions to what already designed in the main model.
If you have to enter the main model, the main model must not contain any hustle, then more variants (substanti) to the main model, and in the end you will make "active" the chosen one.
variants should not be confused with phases. variants are applied to the current phase of project, therefore, any demolitions applied to the main model, are the "base" of departure of all variants referred to that main model.
In your case, the tramezzo/muro contained in the main model, can not be handled (dem/costr) with variants, but only at phase level.

 

[Reg_Rev]

Thank you.

but it would be convenient starting from a main model to be able in the different variants to change what you want otherwise we always stay the usual
system rescue project1, project2, etc.

the phases indicate times when the design takes place, while in the variants you can only add the elements.

nice system but badly exploited, for now we hope.

 

[gfrank]

.... while in variants you can only add elements.

....

is not correct:
In variants, you can demolish and build the added elements, processing more variants related to the same main model.

Unfortunately, your problem is to have to manage a "change" or not, an existing wall, which in the philosophy of revit is managed with the stages.

such a situation, as you said, is resolved only by a rescue of several main models (with or without the wall) in as many rows, which in turn will be the main models from which to start to draw the (proprie) variants