vectorworks vs allplan

[lory.b]

I don't know if you're evaluating the Italian version or that international version so I'll use double names.
vectorworks files are structured through classes/categories (equivalent to acad layers) and layers/glosss.
the latter are to be considered containers, spatially defined by attributing to them a ζz. parametric objects, such as walls, can automatically take the heights of layers/gloss.
you can initially set up a series of layers/glosss in succession, at heights and equilibrz established, from the foundations to the roof (start function).
each layer/glosss can live for itself: I can keep it visible, make it grigetto (not editable) or turn it off. I can see them and turn them all together or isolate one to work without interference.
I don't know what you mean by bim assistants, actually... I still hope I've given you at least one idea of the basic approach.

on the nemetschek website you can find material with explanatory examples in the "bim in practice" section http://www.vectorworks.net/bim/index.php
lo

 

[Karnil]

I press that the version in use is the Italian one.
up to the distinction between lucids (levels with specific heights, inside which the objects move) and categories (furnishments?) I had arrived there. I have not yet been able to understand how to set the heights, and how they act.
es: on allplan I have the possibility to be able to bind the height to the ground, to the ceiling or to a point of the space assigned to me. I can't do this here.

As for the bim assistants, I mean of the already realized "macro" of, doors, windows, stairs, walls, that speed up the design operation. . .

 

[lory.b]

up to the distinction between lucids (levels with specific heights, in which the objects move) and categories (furnishments? )

categories include any design element.
therefore, in the file there will always be a long list of categories, depending on the type of processed. for example, categories can be named as in the image I attach. each is set with a color and thickness of pen, filling, opacity, etc. every polygon that design (not only furniture, therefore) will belong to a specific category.

es:

on allplan I have the possibility to be able to bind the height to the ground, to the ceiling or to a point of space assigned to me. I can't do this here.

It's been a while since I haven't used this function because I'm on two-dimensional architecture. but it should be that once you set the glosses with certain heights, objects like walls automatically take such heights.

As for the bim assistants, I mean of the already realized "macro" of, doors, windows, stairs, walls, that speed up the design operation. . .

you can "build" one or more different doors and windows, each transform them into a symbol and then have such ready-to-use objects, easily editable.
As for the walls instead, you can create custom styles (stratification) that you will always have among the resources.
I do.

 

[XCAD]

good karnil: I see you really convinced and concentrated!
Unfortunately I am at a time "delicate" at work and I will not be able to try to learn vw for a while.

I would be really grateful, as soon as you get a little familiar with the sw, if you could post your impressions in comparison with allplan.

Thank you.

 

[Ramaja]

It's been a while since I haven't used this function because I'm on two-dimensional architecture. but it should be that once you set the glosses with certain heights, objects like walls automatically take such heights.

That's what you say.
when you want to create a higher wall, lower or even an element suspended from the ground, you select the object and change the base height and height of the object from the context menu

 

[Karnil]

good karnil: I see you really convinced and concentrated!
Unfortunately I am at a time "delicate" at work and I will not be able to try to learn vw for a while.

I would be really grateful, as soon as you get a little familiar with the sw, if you could post your impressions in comparison with allplan.

Thank you.

We could give us a hand, even through skype to familiarize with the sw.

time is tyrant for all!

 

[Karnil]

categories include any design element.
therefore, in the file there will always be a long list of categories, depending on the type of processed. for example, categories can be named as in the image I attach. each is set with a color and thickness of pen, filling, opacity, etc. every polygon that design (not only furniture, therefore) will belong to a specific category.

es:

It's been a while since I haven't used this function because I'm on two-dimensional architecture. but it should be that once you set the glosses with certain heights, objects like walls automatically take such heights.



you can "build" one or more different doors and windows, each transform them into a symbol and then have such ready-to-use objects, easily editable.
As for the walls instead, you can create custom styles (stratification) that you will always have among the resources.
I do.

Well, there should be no problem for categories. as well as for heights (though I have to cuff a lot)
for the bic, I mean just objects already created, that simplify my life. rather than create them from scratch.

Would you do some private lessons through skype? :

 

[XCAD]

Well, there should be no problem for categories. as well as for heights (though I have to cuff a lot)
for the bic, I mean just objects already created, that simplify my life. rather than create them from scratch.

Frankly I have practically never used assistants: to honor the truth I didn't even probe much if they were really so comfortable (it didn't seem to me that there were particularly elaborate objects that were worth exploiting); for me their presence has never resulted in particular advantages.

 

[Karnil]

I'm trying to find something on the manual, as well as in the helper, but nothing!

vectorworks in which scale draws? there is a drop-down menu (as for allplan) that tells me the units introduced to video are m, cm, mm...

I can't do it!

 

[Zeno Da Ros]

file> document setting

on the website of videocom.it there are video contests that also speak of this.

Hi.

 

[Karnil]

file> document setting

on the website of videocom.it there are video contests that also speak of this.

Hi.

I asked through youtube the precept.. .

 

[Zeno Da Ros]

I asked through youtube the precept.. .

I see you're a student. for students there is the designer+renderworks version free license renewable for a year, so I wrote it.

Hi.

♪

 

[lory.b]

vectorworks in che scala disegna?

You choose her.

there is a drop-down menu (as for allplan) that tells me the units introduced to video are m, cm, mm...

There is a special menu to choose what you want.
my images refer to the international version, but there is not much difference.
I do.

 

[Karnil]

I see you're a student. for students there is the designer+renderworks version free license renewable for a year, so I wrote it.

Hi.

♪

I already took the version from the site. I'd be interested in video contests.

 

[Karnil]

You choose her.



There is a special menu to choose what you want.
my images refer to the international version, but there is not much difference.
I do.

measuring units, set in settings.

the scale, I didn't activate the setting. using the ita+archi scheme, I did not see it....

I think I'm gonna hate myself very fast, for the thousand things I'm going to ask you.

you are always very kind and friendly!

 

[Karnil]

well, I'm starting to slew (and slender) with vectorworks, but having the base of allplan, I find a few things difficult.

1) when drawing, both 2d and 3d, with the use of the keyboard entering the size, it is normal that you lose time in choosing the direction, the verse, the angle. Isn't there a chance to speed up the operation? is it normal that then the command stops, without continuing?

2) when I use the 3d, with the tools (door, stairs) I have difficulty in positioning and setting.
- is it always central to the object snap? Can I change the anchoring point?
- where do I call you?

3) the lights.... .

 

[lory.b]

1) when drawing, both 2d and 3d, with the use of the keyboard entering the size, it is normal that you lose time in choosing the direction, the verse, the angle.

As you draw the range you can, through the tab key, activate the floating databar where you can insert the size "on the flight".

is it normal that then the command stops, without continuing?

do you mean, once you put a measure in the info shovel, if you send to validate, then you have to re-enter the cursor in the next field?
do not validate by sending but move with the tab key.

2) when I use the 3d, with the tools (door, stairs) I have difficulty in positioning and setting.
- is it always central to the object snap?

You choose

Can I change the anchoring point?

Right.

- where do I call you?

when you activate any tool, on the top left of the drawing window you will see a whole set of icons, clickables. . .

3) i lucidi......

What did they do to you? !
;-)

I do.

 

[XCAD]

hi to everyone: I'm trying to use the student ita version of vw 2012;
I tried to model a ladder and wanted to see a rendering, but
how do you do it?

I tried to throw someone, but there are no shadows brought, nor own shadows (it turns out a coloring of the elements, but nothing else): are there parameters to set? Where?

Thank you.

 

[pla]

but would it not be better to open specific topics for each individual question?

 

[lory.b]

pla's right. your xcad request is a specific topic that has nothing to do with this discussion. You better open a new one.
I do.