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Hello everyone
I have to make a product installation video (a towel rack).

I have available publisher 2016 or inventor 2017; I would prefer to use inventor as the files are already in 2017 version and are not definitive, I would not want to revert everything in step and then risk having to remake everything if the pieces will be modified. e cmq seems very valid to me the presentations section, compared to publishers if I'm not mistaken only lacks the possibility to insert arrows and writings.

Can anyone help me? Let's say that I really need the basic concepts... I realized that I have to make so many snapshots with successive changes, but I did not understand the history of the frames, I did not understand if the instant views I have to do them when I am in edit view or out and above all I did not understand xkè sometimes gives me the chance to choose the times of the actions and others not. I understand very little.

for now I only consulted the online guide, a little helped but not enough. to understand how it handles the views seems to me the biggest obstacle, for the rest it seems quite intuitive (of course if you have the right intuition :confused: :tongue: )

thanks to all for the help
That's right.
 
Do you have to make a video or pictures?
I'm starting to use it so I don't know it well, but it seems to me that it has good tools and good results.
video is nothing but the sequence of movements that apply to your components.
below, in the horizontal bar, you have cursors corresponding to each action for each component.
with the times of the same.
the images instead save them from a frame that you go to position as you want.
 
I have to make a video. Yes, I think it's a very good tool too.

I am doing some tests, now I have understood more or less the frame action, that is, I shift the cursor of the times after 1 second from my initial action and I do a new frame, this if I want to create a sequence in which I want to make pieces appear without doing motion actions.

I attached a piece of example.
see that there is a long pause towards the end when the dowel appears?
This is because in the axieme the dowel is in the wall, so my first action is to parade it and then show that it enters. in the video this double movement is bad, it creates confusion, I want you to see how now only the incoming sequence. to do this I shortened the visibility from the browser of the scenes, but so it made me disappear the dowel even from the previous images (in which I used it as visible inserted in the wall to simulate the dot made with the pencil). explanation in Italian really bad, sorry.
horrible even the completely green screwdriver, in my original design was colored well despite it's only one part, not a set, cmq this is the minor problem.

Also my first 2 images were of the furnished bathroom, then they had to disappear towels etc. and then the picture had to tighten on the towels door. the second part is ok, but miss the initial shot. I'll try again. .
 

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You could try to keep the dowel already outside but not visible, then you make it appear and enter the wall.

the frame defines just how you will see everything. You already have an example in your video, start with a frame and then zoom in and approach the mounting area. This is your second shot, you can define the time when you get there by moving the cursors.
 
View attachment Storyboard2.zipThank you so much!! !
now I have more or less what I wanted to get as sequence and times. The dowel appears at the right time, I just had to frame it a little closer.
I had done a test by moving the dowel when it was not visible, but by the fact that I did not understand to save the frames I had not finished anything.
I try to move on with the other sequences. Unfortunately I'm going a little bit 'tooth and I also have a little bit' hurry but the more I go ahead I think once I understand something is really a pussy to use, I like it too!!!
 
Yes, I would say that for the moment it can be good as I begin.
question: Before I tried to make an instant view for each action, I now focused on the frames not to forget to save them, because in the end I think this is the crucial node, to understand that you have to save the frames, which in my opinion in publisher worked differently, and I realized that this piece of video is made in one instant view. Could you make me a problem or is that normal? I mean, I create more views if I need them for some reason, otherwise can I do everything with one?
 

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instant view is like a photo, you need to make, for example, images of a mounting sequence.
in the video you use the frames, as you have already done.
approaching the point where you go to do the operations you changed frame, but this is also a "entity" comparable to the movements that imprison the parts and set as you want and in the temporal lease you want.
so at least I happen in the few tests I did, let's see if someone else knows how to use it already gives us some better tip.
 
Thank you so much for the moment, you solved me a lot of problems!!! We update as soon as I can finish it and maybe in the meantime I find something new.
Sincerely, the f1 guide I think is a little sinful in this, doesn't explain the philosophy behind the program... i.e., if you know the program you understand what is written in the guide, but if you try to learn how to use it only through the guide it is hard, there is nothing comparable to the advice of someone who has already used it.
Thanks again
 
Now it's up to me to ask for help.
I must represent the disassembly of a lid and the assembly of a piece in the seat of the lid itself.
I start from a "complete" set, with cover and piece already in place.
I remove visibility to the piece, move the cover, remove visibility and so far everything ok.
Now I would like to make the piece appear, far from the seat, then put it in its place.
I thought you could move, from home to outside, and animate it backwards. I can't find where to set this thing.
 
Hello! !
Unfortunately I have not yet managed to complete and post my notes on what I discovered using it but I would say that I understood almost everything I needed and found myself ultra well, it is very versatile as a program.
I can't answer your question directly, if it's possible to do the reverse animation only of a part of the video, I think you can do the reverse animation of the full video but only of a portion seems strange to me.
I found myself very well keeping the normal sequence of things and acting on visibility and opacity, and I did a lot of actions like the one you describe.
In practice, you have the piece in place (invisible) and you want it to appear in another spot, right? then select the invisible piece and give it opacity 1 (this benefits you xke an invisible piece cannot handle it from the design but only from the browser while a piece with opacity 1 do not see it but you can move it in the browser as if there were, it highlights when you walk over with the mouse); at this pointblo move where you want, maybe setting a very short time of action. Finally bring it back to opacity 100 and move backwards.
then with the browser in low rows in detail things, it is a cock but with the steps I told you can happen that for a moment you see the piece flash, in this case you just move forward or backward the moment in which it becomes visible and the effect is perfect.
I hope it can help you.
See you soon!
 
Thanks for the answer. I had already come to such a solution, very useful the suggestion of the opacity set to 1.
 
hello vale79, now is a two-way dialogue and I write directly to you:wink:
Have you ever written in the video? Like a "explaination" of the operation to be done?
Do you think you have to create a part that represents the writing or is there any usable function?
Thank you very much for your help.
 
Hello technomodel!
Forgive me for the delay, I don't think there is a purpose, I would create an object with the text and use it like that.
If you only have to do a video I think it's the only solution, while if you have to do static instructions maybe you could apply the writings, arrows, etc. on images with other program, photoshop, gimp, paint, or word.
Perhaps this was our retailer when he told us that publisher had been integrated into inventor but not completely, in fact it seems to me that it lacks the possibility to add things that are not present in model 3d. little bad the beautiful is to make models of all :cool: :wink:.
I attach my finished video (spero), if you want to tell me what you think?
Thank you very much and soon!
valet
 

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Sorry I'm late. I could only see the video now.
Congratulations, nice job. if I can give a suggestion I would "disappear" and "appear" the various pieces in a longer time.

How did you adjust? They're driving me crazy. I have some details 8 in the .ipt file) that have their appearance and in some areas another, for example a blue color conduit to highlight the aspiration. in the video I would not appear these different colors, I change the appearance to the part but as soon as I go to change something I stand out that different aspect. it also happens when I start the video generation.
 
Thank you very much!!! Yes I agree with the times, you can improve much more.
I'm in your own situation, they're driving crazy!
I for example have the ipt file of the drill and screwdriver (also these are parts, not assembling) with the various colored surfaces differently (they are beautiful!) but vigliacco if it keeps me the right colors in the ipn, let me do them only in plain color.
and instead the washbasin and the handle of the stool opens them regularly blacks and every time I have to replace the color even if except the file. This thing initially made me on several pieces, for example the bottles of shampoo, then slowly remained only those 2 pieces that just do not go to genius.
probably it is because as usual we have made a lot of confusion on the files, sometimes we color the parts, other times the surfaces, others still in the assemblies and others directly from the properties of the individual parts. Moreover we mixed colors from the autodesk library with colors of the inventor library, sometimes we color the part, other the surface, others we change the color in local. . .
But I don't understand why, if the hypn is a display of an iam, decide by itself to change colors. I can understand if in an iam does not matter all the specifications of an ipt or another iam, especially if colored in a disorganized way, but in this case it seems strange to me.
Maybe we should ask in the self-desk forum, maybe it's a program limit.
 
may be an idea, or hear from those who follow us for licenses, installations etc.
As soon as I have a moment I try, if I can tear up a free mini counseling...... if not the boss does not pass me:
 
Yes, I imagine, even from us equal. but we have the contract for the support on the forum... You just have time to figure out something, find the credentials, and get the question... how much time and money saved if we could proceed a little more ordered. . .
 
I finally managed to talk to a technician, the suggestion he gave me is to work on the aspects in the axieme creating a dedicated view. then the presentation "will" to this representation of view in an associative way.
I haven't tried yet if it works but I have to start working on a new video.
I'll let you know the results.
 
Hello everyone
It's not much and I don't know how understandable it is, but in the meantime, I'm loading a few notes on how much I've learned about Ipn, I hope someone can be useful.
Bye!
That's right.
 

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have you tried to do this job instead of with ipn presentations, with inventor studio that is already in inventor under environments?
 

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