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weight management

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Bye to all,
I looked at other discussions about weight management in nx but found only fragmentary indications.
problem:
1- how to manage weights in one part and in a set not having 'advanced' licenses.
2- Density allocation via preference>modeling>... or edit features>solid density
3- use of reference sets in combination

thanks to those who want to answer:smile:
 
I assign the material to the part or to the bodies through tools->material properties.
I don't understand your needs.
 
Utente NX said:
I assign the material to the part or to the bodies through tools->material properties.
I don't understand your needs.
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as far as I know, with "tools/material properties" cheques, in addition to the specific weight, another series of physical propitities related to the material that selects (type form of elasticity - thermal/electric conductivity - etc) that could be succesively inherited from other environments (calculum cae x es); with "edit\feature\solid density" modifies instead exclusively the specific weight of the solid body.
When I return to the initial question, I see it difficult to handle weights without the prepared form, I imagine that potentially if every prt was completed a dedicated attribute as a value of the weight, this could then be displayed in a part list ... but it does not seem like a very viable path, I (see my tendency to disorder;) for example I would never be sure to have the updated values!
No.
once assigned a material to a solid it is no longer possible to change it only in specific weight with solid density but you must use again "material properties"
 
Omen said:
as far as I know, with "tools/material properties" cheques, in addition to the specific weight, another series of physical propitities related to the material that selects (type form of elasticity - thermal/electric conductivity - etc) that could be succesively inherited from other environments (calculum cae x es); with "edit\feature\solid density" modifies instead exclusively the specific weight of the solid body.
When I return to the initial question, I see it difficult to handle weights without the prepared form, I imagine that potentially if every prt was completed a dedicated attribute as a value of the weight, this could then be displayed in a part list ... but it does not seem like a very viable path, I (see my tendency to disorder;) for example I would never be sure to have the updated values!
No.
once assigned a material to a solid it is no longer possible to change it only in specific weight with solid density but you must use again "material properties"
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I sincerely do not know what the allocation of the density "edit\feature\solid density" might serve.
using the material assignment command is the correct road.
if you want to see the weight in the part list, just add a column with the syntax <w$=@$mass>.
use a 'weight' property in the file only serves in case you want to insert it in the folder.

the license advanced weight manegment serves to assign weight and other properties on commercial components whose approximate or import modeling would fake the real weight, even once assigned through the above tool.</w$=@$mass>
 
Utente NX said:
I sincerely do not know what the allocation of the density "edit\feature\solid density" might serve.
using the material assignment command is the correct road.
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Yeah, I totally agree with you. maybe the solid density command remained for compatibility with older versions of nx ...
Utente NX said:
if you want to see the weight in the part list, just add a column with the syntax <w$=@$mass>.</w$=@$mass>
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I thought the compilation of the $mass attribute only took place if an advanced assembly license was available, but I'm not sure and maybe my information is a bit dated!

Good evening to all!
 
I see better detailing my need:
1) in the part drafting chart (in master model) I want to have the weight.
2) in the drafting chart of the axieme I want to have the total weight (maybe even in the subassiemi).
How do you behave? Do you have any suggestions?
thanks
 
ceschi1959 said:
I see better detailing my need:
1) in the part drafting chart (in master model) I want to have the weight.
2) in the drafting chart of the axieme I want to have the total weight (maybe even in the subassiemi).
How do you behave? Do you have any suggestions?
thanks
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I'll answer you right away.
at the end of September this year you install nx8 and you're good.
I think you can wait until the end of September, don't you?
If you don't want to wait there are two roads.
1) a custom that withdraws the data and compiles it into a part property
2) use a measure body parametric and always kept at the end of all functions and a 'get' to create the property from the measure body.

I suggest you wait.
 
Utente NX said:
I'll answer you right away.
at the end of September this year you install nx8 and you're good.
I think you can wait until the end of September, don't you?
If you don't want to wait there are two roads.
1) a custom that withdraws the data and compiles it into a part property
2) use a measure body parametric and always kept at the end of all functions and a 'get' to create the property from the measure body.

I suggest you wait.
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to meet you...
we have developed custom to do this, but since it lacks little to nx8 that the two-way sync between attributes and ownership of the part, I am using the ootb solution.
customer download for nx8, except tzunami, is September 6.
 
you know that matrix likes to talk to acronyms.
ootb = out of the box is a term used to mean that the features it is in the program and therefore do not require customization or manipulation of any other kind.
 
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I don't know nx, but what's the procedure for getting the weight in the cartouche?
For example, if I attribute a material to my part, automatically this will be displayed in the folder. No?
 
stef_design said:
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I don't know nx, but what's the procedure for getting the weight in the cartouche?
For example, if I attribute a material to my part, automatically this will be displayed in the folder. No?
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I speak for myself but I assume the same thing happens for nx... if the reference to the material and weight is displayed on the cartiglio. on the model assigns a material through a table, this has all the necessary properties (density, yield, % elongation, form elasticity etc.) so then the update of the weight happens automatically, as well as the data that there are in the cart.
 
The_Matrix said:
to meet you...
we have developed custom to do this, but since it lacks little to nx8 that the two-way sync between attributes and ownership of the part, I am using the ootb solution.
customer download for nx8, except tzunami, is September 6.
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from 6/9 can we use nx8??? I can't believe it... finally we could do the smooth curve (oops....optimize curves)!
 
Tequila said:
I speak for myself but I assume the same thing happens for nx... if the reference to the material and weight is displayed on the cartiglio. on the model assigns a material through a table, this has all the necessary properties (density, yield, % elongation, form elasticity etc.) so then the update of the weight happens automatically, as well as the data that there are in the cart.
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yes with nx8, before you had to perform the procedures indicated here..
 
Utente NX said:
yes with nx8, before you had to perform the procedures indicated here..
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You want to tell me that until now you have to do that procedure... Fortunately, it should be the world top :rolleyes: But I think I miss something.. .

answer: I assign the material to the part or to the bodies through tools->material properties.
I don't understand your needs. and translated to feeling it seems gross to me what you do also with solid edge, that is to the model assigns a material and according to the characteristics of the material this automatically proposes the weight and every time you change the model accordingly this is updated, then as said if on the table I call the "mass" as soon as I put the model (or also the assieme) on the table I recall the weight and propose it to me.

What is the diversity of nx?... before the 8th that will be released shortly.
Hi.
 
Tequila said:
You want to tell me that until now you have to do that procedure... Fortunately, it should be the world top :rolleyes: But I think I miss something.. .

answer: I assign the material to the part or to the bodies through tools->material properties.
I don't understand your needs. and translated to feeling it seems gross to me what you do also with solid edge, that is to the model assigns a material and according to the characteristics of the material this automatically proposes the weight and every time you change the model accordingly this is updated, then as said if on the table I call the "mass" as soon as I put the model (or also the assieme) on the table I recall the weight and propose it to me.

What is the diversity of nx?... before the 8th that will be released shortly.
Hi.
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in the specific case we are talking about, some properties such as weight, surface and volume were not available to the user as file properties.
were present internally.
if you wanted to make them visible, you had to run the mentioned options.
with nx8 these properties are made available in the property mask.
 
Utente NX said:
in the specific case we are talking about, some properties such as weight, surface and volume were not available to the user as file properties.
were present internally.
if you wanted to make them visible, you had to run the mentioned options.
with nx8 these properties are made available in the property mask.
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ok now has been clarified the doubt... so it means that up to this nx version is a step back than the solid edge brother.... :biggrin:

but how do you indicate on the drawings the weight of details? is it a data that you manually report or leave it empty? when I have to deal with drawings of thirdists and lack the weights I get nervous also because then those who have to make estimates of work and carpentry, obsitting certain costs you have per kg.
 
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Tequila said:
ok now has been clarified the doubt... so it means that up to this nx version is a step back than the solid edge brother.... :biggrin:

but how do you indicate on the drawings the weight of details? is it a data that you manually report or leave it empty? when I have to deal with drawings of thirdists and lack the weights I get nervous also because then those who have to make estimates of work and carpentry, obsitting certain costs you have per kg.
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nx is back than if even in other cases, but this should not know ugall.. .

we will put weight in the cartilage with nx8:biggrin:
 

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