what a future for t3?

[igiolo]

My mother dejavu to read you..hihi
here we have t3,in all its declinations, since still called gbg.
and of course we embraced his pdm.
I can go in autocad (I am responsible it, designer in time lost).
now we find ourselves in the condition
we have 35000 drawings in e2-e3, with groups, parts, distinct and whatever,defined as dead track (there are, and do not evolve).
autocad/top 2012 x 2d
solidworks 2011 x 3d.
the good thinkteam is desperate to keep it together (of course all new 64bit machines), but he can do it.
plm/pdm
manage autocad/top parts (via arx,o .net, nn le vba as we are forced to use today)
manage the assemblies and parts of solidworks.
some of think3's old guard founded the focus-plm, and based on aras their plm.
other players are
rule designer (engineering spa)
pro.file (softrunner)
enterprise pdm (new macut, okkei with solidworks, but with top/autocad? )
document (project cad)
desktop collaboration (first solution)
Do you have experiences about it?
Of course I have given me references, and if I have any choice I will make the wrapper in some company that implements these plm, I would like to avoid ..:d
ahn, last thing, the management with which will have to interface will be sap (aaaaahhh)
any info, straight, warning, or whatever else will be well accepted.


(we think a pitiful veil on the slopes, failed judges, judicial measures etc.disgusted, indeed, on how they misled and managed a great Italian idea)

 

[heterodyne]

My mother dejavu to read you..hihi

desktop collaboration (first solution)

desktop collaboration, as a signal, is produced by parallaksis; "fist solution" is only retailer.

compared to what I saw desktop collaboration is a platform based on .net quite flexible and also has a crm part. about file management you should deepen by calling the manufacturer directly. there are various connections including nx, sw, pro/w, autocad and also rhino. Try to make a demo remotely.. .

btw

I recommend as if I were my cousin; call the manufacturer who is better:finger:

 

[The_Matrix]

My mother dejavu to read you..hihi
here we have t3,in all its declinations, since still called gbg.
and of course we embraced his pdm.
I can go in autocad (I am responsible it, designer in time lost).
now we find ourselves in the condition
we have 35000 drawings in e2-e3, with groups, parts, distinct and whatever,defined as dead track (there are, and do not evolve).
autocad/top 2012 x 2d
solidworks 2011 x 3d.
the good thinkteam is desperate to keep it together (of course all new 64bit machines), but he can do it.
plm/pdm
manage autocad/top parts (via arx,o .net, nn le vba as we are forced to use today)
manage the assemblies and parts of solidworks.
some of think3's old guard founded the focus-plm, and based on aras their plm.
other players are
rule designer (engineering spa)
pro.file (softrunner)
enterprise pdm (new macut, okkei with solidworks, but with top/autocad? )
document (project cad)
desktop collaboration (first solution)
Do you have experiences about it?
Of course I have given me references, and if I have any choice I will make the wrapper in some company that implements these plm, I would like to avoid ..:dahn, last thing, the management with which will have to interface will be sap (aaaaahhh)any info, straight, warning, or whatever else will be well accepted.


(we think a pitiful veil on the slopes, failed judges, judicial measures etc.disgusted, indeed, on how they misled and managed a great Italian idea)

attention to the connection with sap...
It is not that it is enough to prepare a distinct cad, to turn it into a separate design, to extract its distinct manufacturing (managed in the pdm or erp?) to make a text file and to feed it to the know... the thing is well + complex and do not believe to those that simplify. . .
the sap/pdm interface is normally bidirectional and depends on where the production distinction is born and who manages it.

on the specific choice of the pdm, apart from the warning on the connection with the erp, I can not recommend you as they are aside.

 

[igiolo]

attention to the connection with sap...
It is not that it is enough to prepare a distinct cad, to turn it into a separate design, to extract its distinct manufacturing (managed in the pdm or erp?) to make a text file and to feed it to the know... the thing is well + complex and do not believe to those that simplify. . .
the sap/pdm interface is normally bidirectional and depends on where the production distinction is born and who manages it.

on the specific choice of the pdm, apart from the warning on the connection with the erp, I can not recommend you as they are aside.

I saw you're a pdm reseller
My atroce doubt is, apart from the conviving autocad/top and solidworks, in migration.
If you want to talk to me about your pdm, maybe via pvt.
regarding the current thinkteam->sap interface is unidirectional, and so remains.
In fact it is not very simple, the transaction in know that manages it is composed of several pages of code in abap, but I must say that it is very good.

 

[igiolo]

desktop collaboration, as a signal, is produced by parallaksis; "fist solution" is only retailer.

compared to what I saw desktop collaboration is a platform based on .net quite flexible and also has a crm part. about file management you should deepen by calling the manufacturer directly. there are various connections including nx, sw, pro/w, autocad and also rhino. Try to make a demo remotely.. .

btw

I recommend as if I were my cousin; call the manufacturer who is better:finger:

hmmmm..okay..quindi parallaxis di varese right?

 

[heterodyne]

to be honest I don't remember, they have different locations. do a search on the internet:wink:

 

[The_Matrix]

I saw you're a pdm reseller
My atroce doubt is, apart from the conviving autocad/top and solidworks, in migration.
If you want to talk to me about your pdm, maybe via pvt.
regarding the current thinkteam->sap interface is unidirectional, and so remains.
In fact it is not very simple, the transaction in know that manages it is composed of several pages of code in abap, but I must say that it is very good.

I'm not telling you about my pdm because it's not suitable for your reality.
The complexity I meant is conceptual, not code pages.
hi and good choice

 

[euro_ii]

the good thinkteam is desperate to keep it together (of course all new 64bit machines), but he can do it.

Why?
I have customers with more than 100 thousand designs and do not complain ..


At least you don't have separate locations I don't see what kind of issues you may have with thinkteam ..

 

[euro_ii]

some of think3's old guard founded the focus-plm, and based on aras their plm.

Keep in mind that your old thinkteam can still be maintained for quite a while.. is just released 2011 and there is a development plan and improvement in port for 2012.

currently t3 retailers in Italy are two and there are more than 4 companies that can offer you qualified assistance ..

Think about it.

 

[igiolo]

Why?
I have customers with more than 100 thousand designs and do not complain ..


At least you don't have separate locations I don't see what kind of issues you may have with thinkteam ..

the point is that a 64-bit machine..with autocad+solidworks, give to thinkteam.
or do you know about implementations that are great? We could pay very well consultants who know the environment.

 

[igiolo]

Keep in mind that your old thinkteam can still be maintained for quite a while.. is just released 2011 and there is a development plan and improvement in port for 2012.

currently t3 retailers in Italy are two and there are more than 4 companies that can offer you qualified assistance ..

Think about it.

Yes, a colleague of mine went to seminar t3 in November.
you say that nn was fried air?any contact in mp?
Bye!

 

[euro_ii]

the point is that a 64-bit machine..with autocad+solidworks, give to thinkteam.
or do you know about implementations that are great? We could pay very well consultants who know the environment.

we as omniasolutions have + 10 years experience on think3 products.
we have followed many of the t3 implementations in Italy and continue to do so daily by the customers we follow.

If you're happy to be done let us know... info@omniasolutions.eusoon,
Matteo

 

[euro_ii]

Yes, a colleague of mine went to seminar t3 in November.
you say that nn was fried air?any contact in mp?
Bye!

the situation and that the court of bologna has extended the provisional administration until all 2012.
So no one knows what will happen when this period is over.
definitely think3 will be sold to someone with an industrial plan that somehow allows the company to relaunch.
for now the staff of t3 is undersized but the work they are doing is aimed at the stability and consistency of the product.
who of you has installed 2011 has found that the product is stable even if there are no big news regarding 2009.

So from my point of view before entering into crazy Czech migration I would wait for the end of the controlled administration.
for now you have the support of the customercare of t3, the release of a new version and of the consultants who can accompany you in everyday issues.

the decision is up to you... :

Hi.
Matteo

 

[RuleDesigner]

My mother dejavu to read you..hihi
.... of think3 founded the focus-plm, and based on aras their plm.
other players are
ruledesigner (engineering plm solutions)
pro.file (softrunner)
enterprise pdm (new macut, okkei with solidworks, but with top/autocad? )
document (project cad)
desktop collaboration (first solution)
Do you have experiences about it?
Of course I have given me references, and if I have any choice I will make the wrapper in some company that implements these plms, I would like to avoid ....

who are you see so I hope you do not throw away the usual polemics because unlike others I do not move under a mask but face uncovered.

you say: "we have 35000 drawings in e2-e3, with groups, parts, distinct and everything else,.... then autocad/top 2012 x 2d and solidworks 2011 x 3d"

Well then ask yourself:
-any other solution beyond ruledesigner guarantees you and makes you see before purchase, cad integration for think3(2de3d) autocad (also with top) solidworks (also draftsight) ? ?
and then (if in the future I had to change cad) gbg, cadra, solidedge, inventor, catiav5 ....
-any other solution beyond ruledesigner allows you (if you want because it is not an obligation) to manage with the same application also crm, document management, sales management, spare parts management, manual management with integrated office and framemaker and indesign, management/configuration product etc etc.?
- but above all the main question is: having to make this choice today (not in 2002 or 2006) in 2012, does it still make sense to think of pdm/plm as a closed dipartimental product on the technical area and not pdm/plm (at this point in an extended sense) as a bearing of the activity of relationship, as a transversal ligator of the whole company that relates marketing, sales force, design, quality, production after-sales etc??? ?
"to the posterii the arduous judgment. . "

 

[euro_ii]

who are you see so I hope you do not throw away the usual polemics because unlike others I do not move under a mask but face uncovered.

you say: "we have 35000 drawings in e2-e3, with groups, parts, distinct and everything else,.... then autocad/top 2012 x 2d and solidworks 2011 x 3d"

Well then ask yourself:
-any other solution beyond ruledesigner guarantees you and makes you see before purchase, cad integration for think3(2de3d) autocad (also with top) solidworks (also draftsight) ? ?
and then (if in the future I had to change cad) gbg, cadra, solidedge, inventor, catiav5 ....
-any other solution beyond ruledesigner allows you (if you want because it is not an obligation) to manage with the same application also crm, document management, sales management, spare parts management, manual management with integrated office and framemaker and indesign, management/configuration product etc etc.?
- but above all the main question is: having to make this choice today (not in 2002 or 2006) in 2012, does it still make sense to think of pdm/plm as a closed dipartimental product on the technical area and not pdm/plm (at this point in an extended sense) as a bearing of the activity of relationship, as a transversal ligator of the whole company that relates marketing, sales force, design, quality, production after-sales etc??? ?
"to the posterii the arduous judgment. . "

It seems that we have no choice )))

The things you say are true, nowadays having an integrated transversal system to the whole company is the winning card.

but there are also other solutions besides ruledesigner, which seems to me to piss well in the market, for example:

inorming
openerp plm (here I sponsor))
parallaksis
...

in the world there are many valid solutions...
without thinking that companies like autodesk, siemmens, are not at the pole to wait ..

as I always say the product does 40% of the work,
30% does so the consultant who knows and understands the real needs of the customer
the last 30% does the customer


soon,
Matteo

 

[RuleDesigner]

...the things you say are true, nowadays having an integrated transversal system to the whole company is the winning card.

....
as I always say the product does 40% of the work,
30% does so the consultant who knows and understands the real needs of the customer
the last 30% does the customer
soon,
Matteo

and here I totally agree with you!!! especially on 30% of the customer!! !

about the products you mentioned, I'm afraid I'll have to go back to study, I admit my complete ignorance, I didn't know anyone.
You see we did school!

 

[euro_ii]

and here I totally agree with you!!! especially on 30% of the customer!! !

about the products you mentioned, I'm afraid I'll have to go back to study, I admit my complete ignorance, I didn't know anyone.

he he he..

sometimes if you are too focused on your product you lose the compass

You see we did school!

some of the mentioned products have more than ten years of history behind them. .


Hi.
Matteo

 

[Salsedo]

Hello

I read with a certain delay this thread but I think it can still be useful to give some information about aras since it was mentioned.

I am sergio salsedo of the focus plm, the company founded by the "old guard" as said wood... :smile:

as he enchanted matteo, gold certified partner by aras corp we distribute in Italy the plm aras innovator, abundantly described on the site of aras.

the solution we propose is based on the integration of aras with our connector direct plm available for ms word and popular cads, as well as the provision of configuration and customization services.

for additional information please visit our website, take a look at the canale youtube where several connector videos are available, or contact me with a private message.

Sergio

 

[euro_ii]

Hello


I am sergio salsedo of the focus plm, the company founded by the "old guard" as said wood... :smile:

Sergio

never said such a thing....

 

[Salsedo]

never said such a thing....

Hello, matteo,

Sorry I was confused with odds.... actually wrote the igiolo user.

Anyway no problem, I didn't take it negatively.... indeed!

Sergio