what hardware for nx?

[IPdesign]

I take inspiration from the discussion on cpus and the use of multiprocessor to make a brief survey among those who use the recent nx releases.

are about to buy a new workstation for nx.
I believe it is not the focal point of the issue.
If the use is strictly standard, then modelling, no cam, etc. that involve massive use multicore and ram to caress.

Therefore we fix that as graphics I would opt for a discreet 2000 picture to which I would pilot a 27" to 2560 x 1440 .
and we also fix a quantity of rams on 6gb

the doubt arises on the processor, the pulsating heart of the whole machine.
I'm not like to do any further interventions to the machine, so my idea is not an upgrade in a few years, because we know very well that in 2 years what is the top now we risk not finding it on the shelves.

so here is the question
bet on an i7 maybe at 3.4ghz
or on a xeon at 3.2ghz
I would avoid the sixcores that as laughter cost a bang and do not give me anything extra.

xeon gives me the possibility of using rams etc (i7 no ), but it seems to be slightly slower to the advantage of greater stability.
but do you really feel so much this need is ram etc and stability in everyday use?
Does anyone normally work with i5 or i7 machines without etc?

I now work with dual opteron at 2.4 ghz ( 2 processors ) and 3 gb of rams with s0 to 32 bits; and I work discreetly, certainly a little bit of brio non guasta , but sincerely I have not noticed a performance abyss between this and the previous dual xeon 2.66 , although the latter was of new generation ( 5 years ago) and the previous had already 5 years of honor.
So the question is: do I not risk taking a new car and complain that nothing has changed?
Surely today I would not choose more machines with 2 processors, have 4 cores and not exploit them enough and advance.

What machines do you work with?
How do you find yourself?
have you slowed down? if you are on what occasions?

 

[cacciatorino]

What machines do you work with?

It has nothing to do with what costs the ram now, put 12 of gb, 18...

 

[IPdesign]

It has nothing to do with what costs the ram now, put 12 of gb, 18...

You're right, but that's not the point, I left the standard equipment to avoid affecting the rest

 

[avalon3d]

hi ip, my opinion is that even changing machine, unless you make rendering from morning to night, you will not see a great variation.
the error control speech should allow the security that a calculation made by the cpu is not lost or distorted and therefore increase the "efficiency" of the machine.
I use a lenovo thinktation, with a cpu xeon e5507 (quad-core), a nvidia picture fx4800 with 4gb and 6 gb of ram and keeps me up discreetly both ug and ansys.
the amount of memory would increase it only for fem analysis.
the real problem of win-based machines is that the part dedicated to managing resources (kernel) is standard for everyone, and is adapted on each machine (processors, different rams...), while for systems based unix based the advantage is that compilation is made specifically for each component of the machine.

Ultimately, my opinion is that I don't think you're using a bad car: you could have more advantages changing from a traditional hdd to a ssd (solid state) than simply changing machine!

 

[IPdesign]

Ultimately, my opinion is that I don't think you're using a bad car: you could have more advantages changing from a traditional hdd to a ssd (solid state) than simply changing machine!

my current workstation ( fujitsu celsius v830 )
I would say she was born badly, in guarantee I replaced:
4 times the maiboard 2
2 graphics cards 3400 (the 3à is jumped 2gg ago)
1 scsi controller
1 power supply .

the record section has 2 scsi to 15,000 rpm in raid.
the change as it is not compatible with seven 64, xp x64 series mounts that has never been too supported as a 64-bit system.
therefore the intention is to leave the old as a bed and "work" on something new.
fujitsu is enough because of poor technical assistance and only amd because of the actual non-intel superiority as far as I have verified .

 

[Tequila]

with ram etc you have the advantage that if there are errors on the same these are corrected and it works equally, but it costs more... if you read the thread of my home pc problem a 2gb bench with errors sent me to lock the pc (besides the problems with the vga ).
on the ws hp in the office I ram etc and anyway I think if you buy a ws seen what cost I already have ram etc or anyway it is tested before delivery

 

[Tequila]

my current workstation ( fujitsu celsius v830 )
I would say she was born badly, in guarantee I replaced:
4 times the maiboard 2
2 graphics cards 3400 (the 3à is jumped 2gg ago)
1 scsi controller
1 power supply .

the record section has 2 scsi to 15,000 rpm in raid.
the change as it is not compatible with seven 64, xp x64 series mounts that has never been too supported as a 64-bit system.
therefore the intention is to leave the old as a bed and "work" on something new.
fujitsu is enough because of poor technical assistance and only amd because of the actual non-intel superiority as far as I have verified .

go on o hp, on the ws sector are the best on the market. as mentioned above I use hp, now I have a z400 with xeon 2.67ghz, 8gb ram and nvidia picture fx3800, has 1 year and has never given any problem, not even the previous hp xw4200 that had a p4 to 3.2ghz 4gb ram and a fx3400/4400 from 256mb has never given problems, of rams duration 6 years and we only manage

 

[linus57]

Bye to all,
Well, we just went to 7.5.4.4.
like hardware... I complain about ram... but I'm a case apart! !
hpz600 2 cpu e5620 2,4ghz (a few at least3 ) ram 16 gb,
nvidiaquadrofx4800
yesterday for example I was over 18 gb ram ( xp 64bit ) maybe it is better windows7
If you put a lot more ram it is better... I have no problem. very stable ..lenta. maybe server and teamcenter.. I don't know exactly... my parents are big asses!! !
Peace and peace
_

 

[enri]

but nx does not exploit all the cores?

 

[axa]

Does anyone normally work with i5 or i7 machines without etc?

I use a portable hp of the cabbage with sk graphics equally lean and core i7 1.6ghz (2.8 in turbo).

I took it quickly but it's been working for about a year and a half without big problems, clearly without etc.

has some "difetto" at the level of graphics but you work the same, in a couple of days I climb a ssd to see what I gain at level of loads etc.

for me the ecc does not make much difference if you buy a branded machine already with all the installed ram you should not have problems.

 

[IB-Motorsport]

nx does not use windows net-framework and at least not work with really big assemblies is much less heavy than products like swx or if it is even more stable.
I personally have a car with an asus p5q delux and a dual core quad - 8gb ram corsair at 667mhz a nvidia picture fx 1800 and a 250gb disc with a double nas raid from 50gb all wd obviously.

my nx7.5 mach design even the surfaces work very well is very fast even with discreetly heavy assemblies travel dignified and I can handle assemblies
Very big.

I still use and am faithful to the good old and vitupered xp64 and I am a proud detractor!

 

[matfio]

go on o hp, on the ws sector are the best on the market. as mentioned above I use hp, now I have a z400 with xeon 2.67ghz, 8gb ram and nvidia picture fx3800, has 1 year and has never given any problem, not even the previous hp xw4200 that had a p4 to 3.2ghz 4gb ram and a fx3400/4400 from 256mb has never given problems, of rams duration 6 years and we only manage

I also recommend to watch hp and the excellent suppliers for high-level workstations.
I bought 5 months ago the brand new mobile workstation precision m6600 i7-2920xm cpu@2.50ghz with 16 gb ram at 1600mhz but with the amechanical hd at 7200 because I still don't trust (because if the hd stops working I have several chances to recover the data while for a solid hd if it stops working goodbye to the picture data), and as a graphics card I for business reasons was bound to take a laptop and so I bet on the biggest that there was in the market in fact I spent a barrel (€4,000). after 5 months of hard work I can say with certainty that I am very satisfied with performance and stability. a point in favor also for the battery because I can work in a heavy way even for almost 2 consecutive hours, the still technology seems to work well.

 

[IPdesign]

Yes, in fact I am oriented on those 2 brands.

at the moment the configuration in the evaluation phase is

xeon w3565 3.2ghz 8mb cache
6gb ram etc.
2000
monitor 27"
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the tread began with the prince's purpose to come to help those in my own situation, just to avoid dizziness figures where it is not necessary.
It is very early to switch from 2000€ machines to 10,000€ machines, but in my opinion it is better not to exaggerate with expenses.

 

[enri]

Are you talking about dual cpu? because otherwise I see no use of xeons.

 

[IPdesign]

Are you talking about dual cpu? because otherwise I see no use of xeons.

no, no double cpu, I had once taken a dual xeon with ht and had disabled it to have 2 full cpus.

but now that every cpu has at least 4 cores, some with ht in the end having two means to see 16 processors, of which many would remain to dust.
Unfortunately there are no longer high dualcore cpus, I would have opted for those with closed eyes.
the utility of xeon against the i7 is linked only to rams etc, and its stability.

 

[matfio]

no, no double cpu, I had once taken a dual xeon with ht and had disabled it to have 2 full cpus.

but now that every cpu has at least 4 cores, some with ht in the end having two means to see 16 processors, of which many would remain to dust.
Unfortunately there are no longer high dualcore cpus, I would have opted for those with closed eyes.
the utility of xeon against the i7 is linked only to rams etc, and its stability.

I do not know problems of stability indeed until now I am impressed by how stable it is. and then I see very stable versions nx6-7-7.5 and 8 while for the nx5 occasionally closes itself but it did it also with old versions of hardware and with 32bit

 

[enri]

Sorry but something escapes me, even because I did not understand how many cores use nx, however why spend more between motherboard, ram etc, to have only one xeon when an i7 2600k costs less, and has a greater frequency and speed? If it's just for ecc and stability ok, together with the fact that, I imagine, the six cores of an i7 are not used.

nb-solid hard disk is very important for performance.

 

[IPdesign]

Sorry but something escapes me, even because I did not understand how many cores use nx, however why spend more between motherboard, ram etc, to have only one xeon when an i7 2600k costs less, and has a greater frequency and speed? If it's just for ecc and stability ok, together with the fact that, I imagine, six cores are not used.

nb-solid hard disk is very important for performance.

If you read my post and ask the question I had placed:finger:

 

[Er Presidente]

If you read my post and ask the question I had placed:finger:

Try putting two i7 in parallel and you'll see what the xeons are for.
:biggrin:

 

[IPdesign]

Try putting two i7 in parallel and you'll see what the xeons are for.
:biggrin:

are far away the times when you could mount simple repentum 1000 in parallel :biggrin:.
Good memories, a great car.

but remaining to the probable choice and then talking about money
I noticed in your interventions a strong propensity to save.
what actually meets my favors :biggrin:

Today I'm putting myself on the net looking for prices and a comparison. :wink: