which software to make piping 2d for feasibility?

[tank70]

Good morning to all,
I've been inscribed for a long time to this community, but I've always been an assiduous reader.
I'd like to ask the community for advice.
I have long been looking for a software similar to fastpipe (autocad lisp created by two industry experts) or alternatively something very similar to procad ortho (https://www.procad.com/products/ortho/)
must be used by users that 3d do not even know what it is.
serves to make feasibility in short time without worrying about mto or isometric estimates.
I explain better I tried both mech-q and esain 2d piping, in some cases you have 3d notions to create the right view in 2d.
valid for charity, but that's not what I'm looking for.
basically a software with customizable library (discards, piping class, no mto or iso) and ease of use (simple cad approach)

every answer comes in handy, thank you in advance

Thank you.

 

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up to the other year there was autocad pid 2d,adex is integrated in plant 3d
but there is visio professional who, among the many things, does pid 2d https://support.office.com/en-us/article/create-a-p-id-or-pfd-1867e7bd-7bef-4dec-b4c4-28d1c6d954ee

 

[tank70]

If it were to caddare p&id could go, but it is especially necessary to make working who 3d knows nothing about it.
serves people grinding piping and not 3d to understand us.
Thank you