work abroad

[gabdia]

hello to all are a 26 year old mechanical expert, good knowledge of the English language and excellent computer knowledge. I have 4 years of experience in an Italian company like:
- to control the productive efficiency of the workers with relative control of the individual worksheets.
- excellent attitude to office tasks. ability in sales,definite and effectively manage goals.
- excellent knowledge of windows,applemacos x and windows office applications (word,excel,power point) & apple office (pages, numbers, keynote).
-good knowledge of xhtml, techniques and tools of web publishing and the main applications (phpstorm, simpletext, komodo, etc.) and advanced cms (drupal, wordpress).
I am following a training course for designer cad of 400 hours +100 internship from the duration of 10 months with relative certificate of professional qualification and final examination. I am learning the use of the following programs:
-two-dimensional cad.
- three-dimensional cad.
-treatment of images: photoshop for technical drawing
-planning and illustration: technical drawing illustrator
-architectural desktop

I am willing to leave Italy after finishing this training course and investing abroad my skills. I would like to know which countries in the world are well paid out of the ordinary for this profession?
thanks to all for your precious advice.

 

[ale47p]

Legends talk about Australian, but I don't believe it until I see the payroll.
I know one who went to make the welder there, and said to earn a lot, and if "one like me" had gone there (i.e. I, that I reverse+cad/cam for more than 15 years) I would have taken an avalanche of money.

I, who takes an avalanche of money currently (from employee speaks, eh), know only people who work in dubai, but not in the "our" sector

 

[gabdia]

ale47p also to me, and you're not the first to tell me, I know a guy who works as a sydney cnc programmer as well as a computer expert and if it really goes well without counting that they made him permanent sponsorship. probably it is not all gold that glitters, but sincerely with all the respect for those who still work in Italy I feel tired and disappointed. to make all these sacrifices, to certify and then to always find me to carry out unproportioned works to my studies and continually subpaid leaves me with the bitter in my mouth.

 

[stevie]

Legends talk about Australian, but I don't believe it until I see the payroll.
I know one who went to make the welder there, and said to earn a lot, and if "one like me" had gone there (i.e. I, that I reverse+cad/cam for more than 15 years) I would have taken an avalanche of money.

I, who takes an avalanche of money currently (from employee speaks, eh), know only people who work in dubai, but not in the "our" sector

I also believe that many things that feel are fandonies.
generally salaries are higher certain, but they must be weighted with the cost of actual life.
in the manufacturing sector then the bulk of world production is concentrated in Southeast Asia, something in the use and little stuff now in Europe.
there is to say that based solely on the testimonies of the various expatriates makes no sense, no one will ever tell you that you do a bunch so much and can barely camp, which occurs in most cases. Clearly, if you're unemployed here and you don't find anything, then you also agree to go and exploit yourself abroad.

 

[gabdia]

I also believe that many things that feel are fandonies.
generally salaries are higher certain, but they must be weighted with the cost of actual life.
in the manufacturing sector then the bulk of world production is concentrated in Southeast Asia, something in the use and little stuff now in Europe.
there is to say that based solely on the testimonies of the various expatriates makes no sense, no one will ever tell you that you do a bunch so much and can barely camp, which occurs in most cases. Clearly, if you're unemployed here and you don't find anything, then you also agree to go and exploit yourself abroad.

but I know of people who have left Italy and are currently well. I have seen cases with contract of work indefinitely in which they were hired for 8 years, they have left everything to go out, surely something positive and I will truth in everything they say there will be, otherwise leave your country to be worse? under what conditions? I put the question in this forum as I am ignorant about it, I do not realize if my knowledge can be profitably exploited outside Italy. to me the Australian has not been recommended as the country of the balots but rather as a chance to have a well paid job, that in Italy in most cases it is not happening anymore and often it is assumed with precarious and subpaid contracts. in no country you become millionaires, but if I can improve my condition of life why not?

 

[cacciatorino]

but I know of people who have left Italy and are currently well. I have seen cases with contract of work indefinitely in which they were hired for 8 years, they have left everything to go out, surely something positive and I will truth in everything they say there will be, otherwise leave your country to be worse? under what conditions? I put the question in this forum as I am ignorant about it, I do not realize if my knowledge can be profitably exploited outside Italy. to me the Australian has not been recommended as the country of the balots but rather as a chance to have a well paid job, that in Italy in most cases it is not happening anymore and often it is assumed with precarious and subpaid contracts. in no country you become millionaires, but if I can improve my condition of life why not?

I know a person who had the plan to go to Australia, but gave up because of Australian legislation that makes immigration very difficult and complicated. then consider that life is not only work and gain, but also human relationships and extra-worker life. You should think about how much your affections and places will miss, when you live across the world.

 

[New Rider]

Hi.
no I understand why going abroad when here, at least on my side, the technical offices are discovered even more than 1 year because they cannot find staff. I receive interview proposals weekly.
something does not come back.... .

 

[cacciatorino]

Hi.
no I understand why going abroad when here, at least on my side, the technical offices are discovered even more than 1 year because they cannot find staff. I receive interview proposals weekly.
something does not come back.... .

This is probably poor pay. It's true that companies don't find capable personnel, but it's also true that U.S. salaries are not very attractive, especially if one has to maintain a family.

 

[gabdia]

I know a person who had the plan to go to Australia, but gave up because of Australian legislation that makes immigration very difficult and complicated. then consider that life is not only work and gain, but also human relationships and extra-worker life. You should think about how much your affections and places will miss, when you live across the world.

But I'd do it, I'd like to get my proposal out. even the thought of changing air, studying well a new language and leaving everything makes me feel free.

 

[New Rider]

This is probably poor pay. It's true that companies don't find capable personnel, but it's also true that U.S. salaries are not very attractive, especially if one has to maintain a family.

the price makes the market as you know. the less there are the more you raise the price the more there are the lower. Anyway, I think $1,500/1600 can be fine.

 

[exxon]

... no one will ever tell you that you make such a bunch and barely manages to camp, which occurs in most cases.

affirmation a little over the lines: what elements do you have to say that something happens "in most cases"? do you know personally "most" of those who went to work abroad?

I have worked and worked in many different countries, and the fundamental difference I could observe concerns the stratification of social levels.

in Italy there is a total flattening that has led to have newly trained engineers with lower salaries than warehouses with thirty years of eternity. In all other countries where I have professional relationships, pay is strongly influenced by the actual value of the worker.

In general, if you are not qualified you are paid for the muscle strength you can offer, while if your preparation is useful to the company for which you intend to work, you are paid for what you are worth. if you are a graduate in preservation of cultural goods or in ancient letters and claim a graduate salary as many do here in Italy, it is likely that abroad you will make hunger as here, perhaps more. If you are an engineer not only on paper, but also in fact, abroad you will have much more satisfaction.

someone cited the Arab emirates united (dubai) where a construction worker earns a thousand euros/month, a welder 1300 euros/month and so on. a dt earns 6-8 thousand euros/month, an executive even more than ten.

then there is to say that the worker (who is usually Filipino or cingalese) eats "street-food" at 2 euro/pasto, while if you are a manager and go to an Italian restaurant at dubai mall, leave us 200 euro per head. same address for accommodation, clothing, etc.

the wool is not different: the workers earn little, even if much more than ten years ago, but I don't think anyone intends to leave Italy to go to make the worker in China... a Chinese engineer (who has a ridiculous preparation, compared to that of a Western engineer), earns the triple of a worker, who compared to the cost of life is a stratospheric amount. a dt or a manager can enrich themselves, but they will hardly be hired by a local company.

different speech for those who go to work abroad for branches or subsidiaries of Italian companies: often you have all the disadvantages of one and the other place. wages are a matter of negotiation and depend on the specific case.

 

[TAURUS77]

the price makes the market as you know. the less there are the more you raise the price the more there are the lower. Anyway, I think $1,500/1600 can be fine.

Young people!!!!!.......make the guests in TV broadcasts, learn to play with the play station in a professional way, shoot various cocks in front of a camera, snobbate the school and culture, sing songs without sense....you will cheat much more than 1500/1600€ per month because studying is sweat and fatigue.... learn a cad and technical design involves taking on important responsibilities.... ?

 

[New Rider]

Young people!!!!!.......make the guests in TV broadcasts, learn to play with the play station in a professional way, shoot various cocks in front of a camera, snobbate the school and culture, sing songs without sense....you will cheat much more than 1500/1600€ per month because studying is sweat and fatigue.... learn a cad and technical design involves taking on important responsibilities.... ?

mechanics is passion.

 

[gabdia]

So guys apologize if I go off topic, advice for a young man who wants to look for work abroad? what do you recommend?

 

[zeigs]

a site I have always found interesting since it was a simple blog http://www.italiansinfuga.com/

 

[Onyx68]

So guys apologize if I go off topic, advice for a young man who wants to look for work abroad? what do you recommend?

keep looking .. but choose the right sites. but also sending cv strictly in en. both to the hr and directly to the foreign companies. I speak for direct experience: after several sendings contacted me .. for other reasons I decided to stay in it.. but if you do not have family (sons) here follow your wish.

 

[TAURUS77]

mechanics is passion.

in the evening when a technical employee will return home from his family....maybe the wife or children need an important medical visit for a fee (not a handbag or toys) will answer.....the mechanics is passion...... take care of this...... .

 

[New Rider]

in the evening when a technical employee will return home from his family....maybe the wife or children need an important medical visit for a fee (not a handbag or toys) will answer.....the mechanics is passion...... take care of this...... .

I find the comment a bit on the limit. How long do you think the wave crest can last for a you tuber? how long a singer trapper can last on the crest of success. surely in the immediate will have stellar gains but then? when you are 50/60 years old what you will have at your personal baggage level. who knows... I would definitely not recommend to my son to do you tuber... Also freddy mercury sang songs... for example... .

 

[ale47p]

Hi.
no I understand why going abroad when here, at least on my side, the technical offices are discovered even more than 1 year because they cannot find staff. I receive interview proposals weekly.
something does not come back.... .

depends very much on professionalism, the area and the period.

I just after graduation of expert (in 2002) I could choose the job, certainly not the salary (that cmq was not bad).

If I was home from work today, I was starting somewhere else tomorrow. There were better contracts for those who started, it doesn't rain.

There was something to do for everyone.
few of the ones I saw were able to organize, the only method of organization in Veneto was "filled the shed of stuff to do and stress men to make a minimum of deliveries".
more or less like staying at chittagong to disassemble ships and "dismalt" radioactive waste.
Some of these have now closed without understanding anything, and blasphemy against Europe, the Chinese or migrants. .

Obviously now that there is "less to do" things are different, the companies are very selective, in the sense that there is a crowd, and they want to find the figure practically perfect for what they seek, not all have the margins to allow themselves the same things 15-20 years ago.

the future are the companies that you can organize, others will lose the challenge and close.
idem for job seekers: One, here today, must be able to adapt more than yesterday. things change, you have to stay behind

 

[TAURUS77]

I find the comment a bit on the limit. How long do you think the wave crest can last for a you tuber? how long a singer trapper can last on the crest of success. surely in the immediate will have stellar gains but then? when you are 50/60 years old what you will have at your personal baggage level. who knows... I would definitely not recommend to my son to do you tuber... Also freddy mercury sang songs... for example... .

the comment is deliberately at the limit....my is a provocative way to make it reflect since the category is subpaid for various reasons but subpaid.