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[Pastorman75]

reading the discussion, I got a curiosity.

how much would a "just" salary for a mechanical designer with responsibility for a mechanical technical office with 3-4 people in total (including him)?

Shall we open a topic? What do you say?
will this be the right section (I don't want the moderators)?


greetings

 

[AlexOnWeb]

reading the discussion, I got a curiosity.

how much would a "just" salary for a mechanical designer with responsibility for a mechanical technical office with 3-4 people in total (including him)?

Shall we open a topic? What do you say?
will this be the right section (I don't want the moderators)?


greetings

hi, I think it also depends on the sector in which you work, not so much for the salary itself but on the possible margins of the company in which you work.. .
Unfortunately, certain environments find much more competition than others and from there emerge all the consequences on the company costs that must remain in ridiculous limits and therefore relative salaries:
to make an example, some big realities that in fact manage to have a certain "monopolio" of the market (see siemens, fanuc, etc.) have prohibitive timetable costs on their interventions, if you like so ok otherwise ciccia.. .
to us they asked for advice for an electric designer (not a tiraphile) and to 30 €/h they didn't even contact us to talk about it. . .

That said...

Hi.

 

[punto]

start and experience! hoping for something to change

 

[Pastorman75]

hi, I think it also depends on the sector in which you work, not so much for the salary itself but on the possible margins of the company in which you work.. .
Unfortunately, certain environments find much more competition than others and from there emerge all the consequences on the company costs that must remain in ridiculous limits and therefore relative salaries:
to make an example, some big realities that in fact manage to have a certain "monopolio" of the market (see siemens, fanuc, etc.) have prohibitive timetable costs on their interventions, if you like so ok otherwise ciccia.. .
to us they asked for advice for an electric designer (not a tiraphile) and to 30 €/h they didn't even contact us to talk about it. . .

That said...

Hi.

I understand your reasoning however this kind of considerations are borne by the employer and not by the employee.

what would be the salary that would allow to say at the end of the month:

"Well, I worked hard but I'm really satisfied! "

greetings

 

[AlexOnWeb]

I understand your reasoning however this kind of considerations are borne by the employer and not by the employee.

what would be the salary that would allow to say at the end of the month:

"Well, I worked hard but I'm really satisfied! "

greetings

bè, depends, unfortunately to that is tied the salary imho :36_1_4:
we cannot discern the market in which we work from the possible salary. . .

In the petroleum/energy field, there are far higher salaries than our automotive standards :36_1_10:

Of course I earned 3000 €/month I could say I was happier, seen 600 € rent + electricity + gas + car + fuel + eat out lunch without coupons + everything increased to double than 10 years ago that they say :36_1_28:

when I started working as a worker in a mechanical workshop I earned 1,80,000 lire per month with some straords, now I gain more than double but I am responsible for the mechanical division of the company for which I work, I follow external studies and mechanical suppliers, I make offers and feasibility prestudies, etc.etc.
Now say what the right salary is, boh!:36_1_12:

 

[Pastorman75]

You said, 3000€/month would make you satisfied more than now.

greetings

 

[lelepanz]

You said, 3000€/month would make you satisfied more than now.

greetings

But...
... would it be fair to earn so much (or so little)?

For example, my fiancée works in hospital surgery. tells me that a doctor who works from them (therefore public employee) with one his "real" study (about 10 years of experience and responsibility related to this) manages to take home on the 3000 scarce.
now from me came a representative of aluminum profiles that went off from the company because last year they did not want to renew his salary (it was presented by them with an offer of competitors). I asked him, but what is it?
I don't know if you told me a ball... but you went over 3,000 eyebrows.
and this is a representative without any responsibility.

Another example: I went to a conference on fiscal federalism. He spoke an honest "legist." He said that his primary friend of a merate hospital ward would take equal to another friend of his "vite" representative.

Now I think the problem is in this "disparity".
I would be happier if I had to rpednere 2500 €/month.
But once I got to that... if I had to take 3000? And then...
How much is the nsotro "limit"?

Am I wrong to think that way?

 

[gil]

where things are perhaps a little different, but not so much reality is this.
technicians take little, always and anyway less than 2'000 euros month, then depends on the contract, years of experience responsibility etc. etc.
a naive with resposability if it exceeds 1,500 is good.
So in the end many wonder, but did I agree to study since I perceive little more than an unskilled worker?
I think the big difference is between who brings home contracts and who doesn't.. if one is able to get commissions then can ask 4 even 5% of the value of the work fors' even more. understand that if you put your hands in a yard also not big, with a contract value for the study or enterprise of 30'000 euros then this month you bring home 1'500 euros extra.
This makes the difference the rest is worth nothing, a clear example.

from me engineering studies sign the anti-cendium certification for hotels to newly enrolled graduates at the underpaid and taken with project contracts. Signing such a thing binds to a civil and criminal liability for the entire life of the work. If something happens, someone who has signed risks bad if you notice the structure's deficience, and there are shortcomings. If such a signature is worth nothing, figure the rest.

 

[lelepanz]

where things are perhaps a little different, but not so much reality is this.
technicians take little, always and anyway less than 2'000 euros month, then depends on the contract, years of experience responsibility etc. etc. a naive with resposability if it exceeds 1,500 is good.So in the end many wonder, but did I agree to study since I perceive little more than an unskilled worker?
I think the big difference is between who brings home contracts and who doesn't.. if one is able to get commissions then can ask 4 even 5% of the value of the work fors' even more. understand that if you put your hands in a yard also not big, with a contract value for the study or enterprise of 30'000 euros then this month you bring home 1'500 euros extra.
This makes the difference the rest is worth nothing, a clear example.

from me engineering studies sign the anti-cendium certification for hotels to newly enrolled graduates at the underpaid and taken with project contracts. Signing such a thing binds to a civil and criminal liability for the entire life of the work. If something happens, someone who has signed risks bad if you notice the structure's deficience, and there are shortcomings. If such a signature is worth nothing, figure the rest.

Unfortunately, everything you say is true.
is a world...malaaatoo....

As regards the committees of the agents : we also have them (both foreign and Italian). but until or how long will it be like this? ?

 

[Pastorman75]

But...
... would it be fair to earn so much (or so little)?

For example, my fiancée works in hospital surgery. tells me that a doctor who works from them (therefore public employee) with one his "real" study (about 10 years of experience and responsibility related to this) manages to take home on the 3000 scarce.
now from me came a representative of aluminum profiles that went off from the company because last year they did not want to renew his salary (it was presented by them with an offer of competitors). I asked him, but what is it?
I don't know if you told me a ball... but you went over 3,000 eyebrows.
and this is a representative without any responsibility.

Another example: I went to a conference on fiscal federalism. He spoke an honest "legist." He said that his primary friend of a merate hospital ward would take equal to another friend of his "vite" representative.

Now I think the problem is in this "disparity".
I would be happier if I had to rpednere 2500 €/month.
But once I got to that... if I had to take 3000? And then...
How much is the nsotro "limit"?

Am I wrong to think that way?

justice is a "labile" concept. ....

I believe that the limit should also be considered because of the place where one lives.
I think the right limit is to be able to pay:

- rent/mutual house
- normal food/dress (no lobsters and armor)
- car utilitarian
-Leave aside money to let children study by big

I see this last point hard!

I would also say that with 3000€/month, from my side (I am not in Milan) you could barely do.

greetings

 

[lelepanz]

justice is a "labile" concept. ....

I believe that the limit should also be considered because of the place where one lives.
I think the right limit is to be able to pay:

- rent/mutual house
- normal food/dress (no lobsters and armor)
- car utilitarian
-Leave aside money to let children study by big

I see this last point hard!

I would also say that with 3000€/month, from my side (I am not in Milan) you could barely do.

greetings

Bo.
cmq at this moment I can not even have some contractual power. ...fuck us.

 

[Iena]

I believe that for the user man there should be no doubt, if he has no family constraints, it is a big professional opportunity as well as gain, he does resume. with regard to the salary of 2300 heuri, for a designer in an area where professionalism and experience are fundamental, are right. depends on what projects and if your figure is easily replaceable for a company. I was not long ago looking for work and salaries (repeat, for certain figures) that were proposed to me were those