differences between st and st2, and which of the two take.

[tripsy]

I would like to know the main differences between the two versions of the program.. .

and some I should take...I mainly use it for the drawing of sheets.

Thank you very much.

Matteo

 

[Be_on_edge]

I don't think there's a chance to buy one or the other. However I vote for st2... indeed for st3

Hi.

 

[tripsy]

When will he get out?? and what will be the news?

 

[Be_on_edge]

When will he get out?? and what will be the news?

a precise date still is not there, but surely you go to after the summer.

for now the only public news received is a total customization of the interface (which had been lost in passage v20 -> st)

There are then a couple of very interesting things but for the moment I am not allowed to disclose them.

Hi.

 

[Tequila]

a precise date still is not there, but surely you go to after the summer.

for now the only public news received is a total customization of the interface (which had been lost in passage v20 -> st)

There are then a couple of very interesting things but for the moment I am not allowed to disclose them.

Hi.

is at least confirmed the reduction of environments? that within an environment can you decide whether to work in classic or synchronous? ...at least this can be disclosed? Bye.

cmq agree to st2 or future st3 are more stable than st

 

[tripsy]

Can you tell me what the difference between classical and synchronous environments is? that is, that changes between the two environments? ? ?

 

[Tequila]

Can you tell me what the difference between classical and synchronous environments is? that is, that changes between the two environments? ? ?

completely changes the way of approach to modeling. the classic is based on features, while the synchron does not have the history of features. It would seem that the synchron improves the timing of recalculating feature during modeling compared to the classic, indeed let's just say that there is no recalculation, but the 2 modeling approaches are different. It seems that the siemens points a lot on this method of work even though I must note that the response of users was not exactly the case. I personally for the work that I do not use the synchronous environment that among other things has gaps regarding the traditional (...or classic), type in assembly are not yet supported welding. other details if you look at the internet you find them. go to the siemens website, or if you are in contact with some reseller made to make a product demo so you can evaluate it yourself.
By the way, if you mainly use the sheets I recommend st2 as it supports them as a synchronous environment, in st it had not yet been developed as an environment, and therefore the modeling of the sheets was only in traditional.
Hi.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3v2g3etb8a&feature=related

 

[cacciatorino]

completely changes the way of approach to modeling.

I only intervene to clarify that in solid edge (both st1 and st2) the traditional modeling method is still present. It is not yet possible to realize a part that has work in syncorna mode alongside traditional processes, although it seems that this possibility will be offered in the future.
This means that every time you start with a new model, you must establish whether you want to work synchronously or traditionally. Assylia, on the other hand, may contain both synchronous and traditional parts.

 

[Er Presidente]

...it would seem that the synchron improves the timing of recalculating feature during modeling compared to the classic, indeed let's just say that there is no recalculation, but the 2 approaches of modeling are different. a still seems that the siemens points a lot on this method of work although I must note that the response of users was not so...

the verb, the light is for a few elect, first, then, when the truth becomes undeniable, even the "volgo" shows to appreciate and lie of the new law!
:biggrin:

 

[Tequila]

the verb, the light is for a few elect, first, then, when the truth becomes undeniable, even the "volgo" shows to appreciate and lie of the new law!
:biggrin:

I don't get it! Can you let me down? :smile:

 

[The_Matrix]

I only intervene to clarify that in solid edge (both st1 and st2) the traditional modeling method is still present. It is not yet possible to realize a part that has work in syncorna mode alongside traditional processes, although it seems that this possibility will be offered in the future.
This means that every time you start with a new model, you must establish whether you want to work synchronously or traditionally. Assylia, on the other hand, may contain both synchronous and traditional parts.

for now it is possible only in nx.

 

[Pizza3d]

I would like to know the main differences between the two versions of the program.. .

and some I should take...I mainly use it for the drawing of sheets.

Thank you very much.

Matteo

Bye-bye.
in the st2 synchronous version have also inserted the sheet-metal module, promises well, has good potentials, there is to say that it has just come out and is in development phase and still lack many things.
If I am not mistaken, in the first version I had seen was missing the possibility to change the thickness of the sheet.
to open mine to work it is still early, it is better to wait a few more versions and see how they develop the product.
Hi.

 

[tripsy]

I describe my situation....I work in a company in the industrial furniture industry.

We make tables, sinks, cabinets, stainless steel cabinets, so mainly I would need the use of sheets.

Since I only have the st demo I would like to ask you some things because I am still inexperienced and shortly I should do the course.

I have to make my parts in sheet metal (every part) and then group them in total, right? ?

for example a table consists of bottom, back, hips, etc... I have to do every single part in sheet metal and then make the finished table together by grouping the individual parts right? ? ?

other question the tables are from 1000, 1200, 1400,1500, etc.. with depth 700 and 600 there is the possibility to iron everything without having to redesign the table from 0?? ?

Thank you so much and apologize if I ask you 3000 questions but I am new to this fascinating world and I would like to understand something without becoming crazy.

:

Matteo

 

[Be_on_edge]

I have to make my parts in sheet metal (every part) and then group them in total, right? ?

Right.

for example a table consists of bottom, back, hips, etc... I have to do every single part in sheet metal and then make the finished table together by grouping the individual parts right? ? ?

right, but you may also start from the overall, inserting reference sketches and modeling parts by connecting to such references

other question the tables are from 1000, 1200, 1400,1500, etc.. with depth 700 and 600 there is the possibility to iron everything without having to redesign the table from 0?? ?

modifying the references mentioned above will update all the details.

is called "top-down" modeling

Hi.

 

[tripsy]

Okay.

Is there any bookstores around? screws, bolts, rivets, etc.? ? ?

another stupid question, is there any perugia? ?

 

[Be_on_edge]

Okay.

Is there any bookstores around? screws, bolts, rivets, etc.? ? ?

another stupid question, is there any perugia? ?

Take a look at the discussion. there is an exercise on topdown design and a collection of resources where to download 3d models.

Hi.

 

[Er Presidente]

I don't get it! Can you let me down? :smile:

you, who debate you by denying the truth, you, who act against morality and justice, you, who deny the truth and act in the shadow of falsehood and falsehood, you, do not seek the justification for your petty acts!

the verb, the truth is there under your eyes and you continue to consider your turpiloquious lame as worthy of the intellect!

out of your shell, from darkness and look to the light, the future will be radiant and eber of happiness!

p.s.: sick, cured!! ! !
:biggrin:

 

[Leso]

I always said that working Saturday morning hurts health. . .

 

[Er Presidente]

I always said that working Saturday morning hurts health. . .

That's terrible!

still listen to what I say:

Once you implement the st in a "transparent" way and integrated into it and together with the "features & history based", you will have the most powerful work tool you can imagine.

only one dowel is missing:
the "post modelling featuring" (invented "on site"). can insert features (such as constraints) even after modeling (or imported) the piece.

Hi.

And when I write, you have to hear me! Not just giving me shit!
:biggrin:

 

[cacciatorino]

Once you implement the st in a "transparent" way and integrated into it and together with the "features & history based", you will have the most powerful work tool you can imagine.

You're right, even if st is still very immature and hard to use when the game gets tough, to hear who's really working on it.
In fact, solidedge-st was rejected more for the new user interface than for the st itself.

only one dowel is missing:
the "post modelling featuring" (invented "on site"). can insert features (such as constraints) even after modeling (or imported) the piece.

I don't understand that. already st allows to bind imported solids, but maybe you mean more, like to recognize that a certain face gets by cutting revolution and make sure that the cad snaps me and automatically binds that cut?