i-deas

[C@r]

but i-deas nx6 is part of unigraphics nx6 or is it a separate software?
they told me that I have to use ideas nx6 for a job, I have the ideas a little confused because I do not find manualistic about it.
Can you recommend manuals or tutorials?

 

[checco03]

but i-deas nx6 is part of unigraphics nx6 or is it a separate software?
they told me that I have to use ideas nx6 for a job, I have the ideas a little confused because I do not find manualistic about it.
Can you recommend manuals or tutorials?

no, i-deas nx6 is a separate software that has been absorbed and is in phase of sweet "migration" to nx6. with manuals it's a little hard to learn by yourself. I suggest you a good side or siemens courses. :biggrin:

 

[vioff]

Hi, I'm not new in spite of the profile.

I take advantage of this discussion to question:

Is there a comparison of time spent on a given project using i-deas nx6 and nx6?

Thank you in advance.

 

[The_Matrix]

Hi, I'm not new in spite of the profile.

I take advantage of this discussion to question:

Is there a comparison of time spent on a given project using i-deas nx6 and nx6?

Thank you in advance.

apart from the fact that nx (the real one) is to the truth nx7.5.1, a comparison would be beyond unfair.
ideas, although maintained, is a cad 10 years ago, while nx is a modern product.
project development times come accordingly.

 

[vioff]

apart from the fact that nx (the real one) is to the truth nx7.5.1, a comparison would be beyond unfair.
ideas, although maintained, is a cad 10 years ago, while nx is a modern product.
project development times come accordingly.

I honestly don't think project development times come as a result of software release year. It's a personal assumption.
then I don't understand why it would be "unfair mode" to check what is the fastest software (as well as external software conditions obviously) if both, even if not in the latest release, are used currently.
because I do not like to base my judgment on propagandistic terms but on real terms and evaluations, I would like to know if there is something documented and, if there is, where to find it.
Thank you.

 

[The_Matrix]

I honestly don't think project development times come as a result of software release year. It's a personal assumption.
then I don't understand why it would be "unfair mode" to check what is the fastest software (as well as external software conditions obviously) if both, even if not in the latest release, are used currently.
because I do not like to base my judgment on propagandistic terms but on real terms and evaluations, I would like to know if there is something documented and, if there is, where to find it.
Thank you.

I don't think Quattroruote makes a comparison between an integral delta 16v of 1995 and a subaru impreza of 2009, do I?
Here's the same thing...
- the geometric engine of ideas is still 10 years ago, that of nx (parasolid) is continuously updated.
- the idea user interface is 10 years ago... learning it is difficult. nx follows modern paradigms
- the exploitation of the hw (memories, graphics cards, operating systems) of ideas is 10 years ago... nx uses everything there is now
- the assembly environment of nx has no comparisons
- the modeling of ideas sheets is quite primitive and however not in line with current best practices
- sketching is what it is
... the only environment, imho, of ideas that is competitive is the 2d.

 

[beppino]

I don't think Quattroruote makes a comparison between an integral delta 16v of 1995 and a subaru impreza of 2009, do I?

ot_mode:
... but to feel "turn" an integral delta 16v of 1995, or, better yet, a s4, you still enjoy now, here is if you enjoy!!!... more than with a subaru impreza of 2009.:biggrin:
/ot_mode

 

[The_Matrix]

ot_mode:
... but to feel "turn" an integral delta 16v of 1995, or, better yet, a s4, you still enjoy now, here is if you enjoy!!!... more than with a subaru impreza of 2009.:biggrin:
/ot_mode

I see ideas or euclid or catia4 or i/ems or strim100 or cadds5 or cadam do not go for anything.
At most I feel tenderness for the first 3 minutes thinking that when I saw them I was young.

 

[vioff]

ot_mode:
... but to feel "turn" an integral delta 16v of 1995, or, better yet, a s4, you still enjoy now, here is if you enjoy!!!... more than with a subaru impreza of 2009.:biggrin:
/ot_mode

That's what I was about to answer. :

seriously, the_matrix, your analysis does not bend. nx is technologically more advanced and modern. but it is clear that there are lovers of delta and lovers of the subaru, as there are farmers who collect hand olives climbing on olive trees and others who use the automatic shakers.
I don't care. my problem is: between nx6 and i-deasnx6, equal to the quality of the result, and at the same time user experience, how much time do you save - if you save - the user nx? 5%? 50%? That's what I want to know.

 

[The_Matrix]

That's what I was about to answer. :

seriously, the_matrix, your analysis does not bend. nx is technologically more advanced and modern. but it is clear that there are lovers of delta and lovers of the subaru, as there are farmers who collect hand olives climbing on olive trees and others who use the automatic shakers.
I don't care. my problem is: between nx6 and i-deasnx6, equal to the quality of the result, and at the same time user experience, how much time do you save - if you save - the user nx? 5%? 50%? That's what I want to know.

the same time that saves a farmer to collect olives with automatic shakers.
Your question is meaningless.

 

[beppino]

I see ideas or euclid or catia4 or i/ems or strim100 or cadds5 or cadam do not go for anything.
At most I feel tenderness for the first 3 minutes thinking that when I saw them I was young.

That's why I put "ot_mode".
my thought was closely related to your example on cars.
If I think I'm working now with a cad of 10 or 15 years ago, I'd change my job.

 

[The_Matrix]

If I think I'm working now with a cad of 10 or 15 years ago, I'd change my job.

That's what I can't make the vioff friend understand.
you can not compare ideas to nx (but also to pro/e wf5, v5r19, etc)

 

[MBT]

I don't think Quattroruote makes a comparison between an integral delta 16v of 1995 and a subaru impreza of 2009, do I?

But how... What are you doing a comparison using cars?? ? ?
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showpost.php?p=166812&postcount=22

ot_mode:
... but to feel "turn" an integral delta 16v of 1995, or, better yet, a s4, you still enjoy now, here is if you enjoy!!!... more than with a subaru impreza of 2009.:biggrin:
/ot_mode

Very true. . .
and on performance, I think there would be fun to make such a comparison

 

[The_Matrix]

But how... What are you doing a comparison using cars?? ? ?
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showpost.php?p=166812&postcount=22

I hate to make comparisons with cars, but at the second time I explain that the comparison doesn't make sense and they say "wrong... but how much less to use nx in comparison with ideas" I did not find better than the old, stale, hateful, outdated, irritating comparison with cars.

 

[vioff]

That's what I can't make the vioff friend understand.
you can not compare ideas to nx (but also to pro/e wf5, v5r19, etc)

a company with 150 licenses to buy must ask questions "first of meaning" before making certain choices.
cmq maybe I'll do the evidence from me. Thanks the same. Goodbye.

 

[maxopus]

a company with 150 licenses to buy must ask questions "first of meaning" before making certain choices.
cmq maybe I'll do the evidence from me. Thanks the same. Goodbye.

azz ..... :smile:::smile:

 

[The_Matrix]

a company with 150 licenses to buy must ask questions "first of meaning" before making certain choices.
cmq maybe I'll do the evidence from me. Thanks the same. Goodbye.

Of course he must, we'd miss him.
the problem is the question, so... there is no answer.. .
I don't know what product projects.
I don't know what methodologies you have in use.
I don't know how many historical data you have.
I don't know if you're designing inside or relying on suppliers.
I do not know if to use nx/tc (like ideas/tdm) or nx in native.
I don't know if carrying over from an old project to a new one is high or not.
I don't know if you only use cad or even cam and cae etc

How do you say that?

 

[MBT]

are questions to which, sometimes even the same "potential client" can give answer... .

 

[marcof]

are questions to which, sometimes even the same "potential client" can give answer... .

because the answer is inside him... "I'll be able to eat and drink..." [cit.] :tongue:

 

[The_Matrix]

are questions to which, sometimes even the same "potential client" can give answer... .

Unfortunately, we cannot ignore it.
ideas>nx is not an upgrade, but a change cad.
Then, for charity... some nx things have been done to help migrate users ideas (see power drafting or using some function keys or, better yet, cmm), however, background, migrates...
- training
- data
- methodologies
- tdm > tc
... choosing the right moment is not a simple "I'll put it less"... if then your dt (which surely of technicians cad doesn't understand a great one) suddenly discovers that his historian must be "carried"? that users must be driven? or that the pure nx 2d is not this door like that ideas?
I know that "speed" is not the engine of change