enri
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I didn't count, but I had calculated configurations, even similar, but that didn't come. make a simple test, see all prices on prices, calculating not the lowest price, but the average price, also of the individual components, then see which figure comes out, maybe we are wrong.
gil
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I try to make a price calculation for the configuration in question. prices taken from essedi.it, a great distributor known throughout Italy. clearly the price is indicative trying to select as similar components as possible. keep in mind that buying on the web often has discounts that are not in store.
cooler master houses: 90 euro
700w power supply: 60 euro
mother card asusp8h61 (the closest to that proposal): 65 euro
processor i72600k: 345 euro
ram kingstom 8gbx2 modules: 120 euro
hard disk hdd 7200rpm wd caviar black: 160 euro
hard disk ssd kingstone 128gb: 189 euro
pny framework 2000: 390 euro (price from find)
dvd burner: 30 euro
assembly: 100 euro
windows excluded
Total: 1’519
in store you should stay between 1600 and 1650 euros
put us 100 for windows license =1700/1750 from list
then to see what discount you can get
cooler master houses: 90 euro
700w power supply: 60 euro
mother card asusp8h61 (the closest to that proposal): 65 euro
processor i72600k: 345 euro
ram kingstom 8gbx2 modules: 120 euro
hard disk hdd 7200rpm wd caviar black: 160 euro
hard disk ssd kingstone 128gb: 189 euro
pny framework 2000: 390 euro (price from find)
dvd burner: 30 euro
assembly: 100 euro
windows excluded
Total: 1’519
in store you should stay between 1600 and 1650 euros
put us 100 for windows license =1700/1750 from list
then to see what discount you can get
ivan
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All right gil, except:
- motherboard, it costs exactly double, I think it is a model problem;
- win7 pro 64 bit license €150,00
Sure then there are the costs of assembly as you did rightly notice, so I believe that in the end if it is not 1750, the right amount can be 1700, but in store it will be difficult to get to 1600!
consider then that about ten years ago, I had assembled a pc, with first quality pieces, two on all:
- Supermicro motherboard double processor lire 1.400.00
- video card elsa framework 64 mb ram lire 2.000.000.000
...you know the terror to see that you assemble everything, from the current and...nothing, black screen.
the problem was on an 11,000 lire component, the piii socket; to say that the money of assembly and evidence I pay them all willingly, I no longer want to experiment like this.
However I will keep you updated, since I have requested a second quote! !
p.s.: VAT included!!! !
- motherboard, it costs exactly double, I think it is a model problem;
- win7 pro 64 bit license €150,00
Sure then there are the costs of assembly as you did rightly notice, so I believe that in the end if it is not 1750, the right amount can be 1700, but in store it will be difficult to get to 1600!
consider then that about ten years ago, I had assembled a pc, with first quality pieces, two on all:
- Supermicro motherboard double processor lire 1.400.00
- video card elsa framework 64 mb ram lire 2.000.000.000
...you know the terror to see that you assemble everything, from the current and...nothing, black screen.
the problem was on an 11,000 lire component, the piii socket; to say that the money of assembly and evidence I pay them all willingly, I no longer want to experiment like this.
However I will keep you updated, since I have requested a second quote! !
p.s.: VAT included!!! !
gil
Guest
the prices I posted are included with VAT.
an identical motherboard is not there, as indicated I have put a similar but lower. I expected the other to cost more.
an identical motherboard is not there, as indicated I have put a similar but lower. I expected the other to cost more.
enri09
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you used a very expensive site.
I would consecrate this: http://www.e-key.it/also shocks the k series processor: it is a cpu with the unlocked motiplicator (towards), then indicated for overclocking.
If you don't do oc, and on a machine I wouldn't do it, I would recommend an i7 2600 to 255€ or an ì5 2500 to 177€ (all the 8 virtual cores the cad doesn't do anything).
spend a little more in the power supply by orienting yourself on corsair, cooler master, or enermax, thermaltake or antec (better these last three), and do not forget a good group of continuity that protects you from potentially catastrophic shocks of tension and black-out.
I would consecrate this: http://www.e-key.it/also shocks the k series processor: it is a cpu with the unlocked motiplicator (towards), then indicated for overclocking.
If you don't do oc, and on a machine I wouldn't do it, I would recommend an i7 2600 to 255€ or an ì5 2500 to 177€ (all the 8 virtual cores the cad doesn't do anything).
spend a little more in the power supply by orienting yourself on corsair, cooler master, or enermax, thermaltake or antec (better these last three), and do not forget a good group of continuity that protects you from potentially catastrophic shocks of tension and black-out.
enri09
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cacciatorino
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actually are very good prices, my assembler had asked me 500 euros for pny painting 2000....
enri09
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the site is very reliable, not very fast, the last time I waited a week I know the delivery (the assembly I do it myself)
cacciatorino
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50 km from my house, I could go in person! :biggrin:
Onda
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in the office to work with solidworks we all have overcloaked pcs (there are three i7 2600k, a 920 and others a little slower).
because the program uses only one core overclocking is very useful.
I have a 2600k at 4.4ghz and I have no problem. picture video card 2000 and 16gb ram.
If overclocking is done well and especially if you mount a good heatsink, it's absolutely the option that improves performance at virtually no cost.
Obviously the system must be perfectly stable, I use my pc for almost a year now and I have not had any blocks of any kind, even using it very intensively, with fem analysis and in the background and open solidworks.
because the program uses only one core overclocking is very useful.
I have a 2600k at 4.4ghz and I have no problem. picture video card 2000 and 16gb ram.
If overclocking is done well and especially if you mount a good heatsink, it's absolutely the option that improves performance at virtually no cost.
Obviously the system must be perfectly stable, I use my pc for almost a year now and I have not had any blocks of any kind, even using it very intensively, with fem analysis and in the background and open solidworks.
gil
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What is the site from which enri took the prices?
enri09
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I wrote a few posts ago: http://www.e-key.it/
enri09
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for the oc is indispensable a good aftermarket dissi, but I do not recommend it to inexperienced users (although with an i5 series k is really easy).
with an i5, and single-tread programs like cads, it is certainly not the cpu to do from bottleneck: critical components are video card and hdd.
enri09
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If you save it on the shipment.
I have already used e-key 5 or 6 times, and I have never had problems, indeed, they have managed with great professional also a guarantee, making me have a record time a new replacement vga as what they had sent me was not working.
Besides they have the lowest prices of the web (for what I find out, on no other site you can spend less, altogether, to buy a complete pc).
sampom
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sampom
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..not fully agreed; Regardless of the number of cores (which is true to be little influential in cad) the frequency counts here!! the higher the better turns it all (it will look strange but it gives a push to the vga), and you notice it at the same cpu just when overclokki: Abyssal jump even without pushing too much.
At least, for my experience with solidworks (but fast processors like all programs a bit, as well as the whole system :smile
.greetings
Mar
p.s. and I would not transcur the power supply, another heart (often underestimated) of the system; of good brand, with dedicated connectors and with "wide shoulders". the 500w chosen by hunter seem a little miserable and now anachronistic. . even bigger distribution stuff. so much is that it consumes more (in fact, under load is the opposite), it provides only how much energy required.. and if it's good, you'll have a life by turning it on the next systems.
enri09
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I did not say that it is influential, but that since the cad programs are single tread a quad-core i5 is sufficent, the hyperthreading of an i7 core do not see it useful motion (at equal frequency), and that I do not recommend overclocking on a working machine to an inexperienced user...not fully agreed; Regardless of the number of cores (which is true to be little influential in cad) the frequency counts here!! the higher the better turns it all (it will look strange but it gives a push to the vga), and you notice it at the same cpu just when overclokki: Abyssal jump even without pushing too much.
At least, for my experience with solidworks (but fast processors like all programs a bit, as well as the whole system :smile
It is clear that a single tread process is faster on a 4-5 ghz processor than by default.
As for the "abyssal high" you say, try to mount know and programs on a good ssd, and then tell me: I already from the installation of windows with my corsair force remained basic, and yesi that before I had a 0 raid with 2 disks from 7200 rpm.
there is no more powerful vga or processor that keep: if we talk about improving overall performance, much better spend 150€ more for a ssd than for an i7.
in fact I recommended a 650w of good brand with certification 80plus bronze
Matteo
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I take advantage of it to ask if you know how to recommend a reliable dealer of amd cards (ex ati) firepro.