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variants of a family table in a single 2d design

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Hello, everyone!
I wanted to know if it was possible to summarize in a single 2d all or partially the variants of a family table.
I make a practical example:
I have a set where there is a fixed part and a part managed by family table
Can I, in the table of this together, have (automatically or almost) a table (or something similar) and summarize all or partially the variables of the part managed by family table?
this to produce only one document instead of one for each set

I hope I made you realize what I need

Thank you.
Hi.
 
Daniele-san said:
Hello, everyone!
I wanted to know if it was possible to summarize in a single 2d all or partially the variants of a family table.
I make a practical example:
I have a set where there is a fixed part and a part managed by family table
Can I, in the table of this together, have (automatically or almost) a table (or something similar) and summarize all or partially the variables of the part managed by family table?
this to produce only one document instead of one for each set

I hope I made you realize what I need

Thank you.
Hi.
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If I understand the question, you can do it.
you can insert in a drawing table, the list of variants in the first column and successive columns variables.
in the design view you will return the quota as variable rather than as value.
to do this you must assign a name to the variable quota (e.g. length instead of d112)
 
Bye-bye.
I attach a classic example of a simple detail, but the same thing you can do for a set.
Greetings.
 

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thanks for your interventions,
...one question:
Does the table fill in automatically? if you in what way?
Moreover if the variable of the variant was not a drawing quota but for example material or code part and so on, the procedure is always the same?
Thank you.
Good evening
 
you must always realize a region of repetition and use the proper parameters of the family table.
regions must be one per column and once you double-click the cell and you open the menu to select the desired parameter.
 
Daniele-san said:
thanks for your interventions,
...one question:
Does the table fill in automatically? if you in what way?
Moreover if the variable of the variant was not a drawing quota but for example material or code part and so on, the procedure is always the same?
Thank you.
Good evening
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Good morning daniele
They're called bidirectional repetition regions And I think they're doing exactly your case. if you try to search in the guide there is a page that explains how to set them up. I did some and found myself well, also because they always update me automatically in the face of addition of variants or changes. some to make them usable I had to customize them with filters and I have to say that it works.
I also followed a tutorial on yt but it's not easy to find out... if I find it I put the link
soon
 
Good morning, guys!
thanks for your advice!
I know enough about the use of repetition regions, but I didn't know about it for this type of case.
I hope I can do some tests by Friday... but I have a doubt that it will whip me in the head:confused:
in a table of a set how do I create aba table with repetition regions etc. etc. that refers to one or more components of that axieme?
 
Daniele-san said:
in a table of a set how do I create aba table with repetition regions etc. etc. that refers to one or more components of that axieme?
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Hello.

by default a 2d table, two-way table, once created displays all the "rigues" and "columns" of the family table automatically without having to do anything. indeed in "problem" if necessary it is limiting the display of these rows and columns, here as mentioned by others you must use filters, filters that are not exactly immediate as use ....

the parameters to use are two:
&fam.inst.name ==> displays all variants (family table rows)
&fam.inst.param.value ==> displays all parameters (family table shades)

to limit parameters and variants you have to work with filters....

greetings
tabella 2d.webp
 
2d repeating regions are the most commonly used for drawing ft management, but unfortunately they have limits compared to the other single-column methodology, I prefer 100 times those with single columns, even if they are operated with filters, they are only a little more complex to manage but they are customizable at will, which with the 2d is not possible to do.
An example?
the parameter name of the column in the 2d always displays the parameter of the 3d, if I want to change it or name it in another way (without underscores, putting symbols of tolerance, etc., etc.) I can't do it, if I want to integrate one or more columns where it does not recall any parameters of the 3d, but a custom text string and detached from the same ft, I can't do it, etc.
therefore in essence, much easier to place at first the 2d but less flexible and customizable.
in the end it always depends on what and how you want to manage, but it is not right to say to follow one way regarding the other because you could find yourself with bad surprises... :-)
greetings
 
Dearest,
I spent some time doing tests, unfortunately I couldn't have a result
I'm sure I'm wrong with some passages:
I tried to follow the help center letter "to define a two-way repetition region for a family table"the passages are quite simple and my ft is equally (see attachment)
I can't fill in the table :confused:

same situation for the dissolution of maxopus, that is to use the regions of repetitions for each single column. .
nothing to do here, too, I mistake a few passages:confused:

Can you help me?
Thank you
 

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Good morning daniele-san,

I saw the table you created, formally correct. I deleted the first column as "useless" and adapted for line size, I modified the order ..... cmq inserted on my design correctly displayed everything, all variants and all parameters, it had to work also from you!
tabella_daniele-san.webpI'll get you your modified table, let me know.

Hi.
 

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Good morning daniele
Daniele-san said:
I have a set where there is a fixed part and a part managed by family table
Can I, in the table of this together, have (automatically or almost) a table (or something similar) and summarize all or partially the variables of the part managed by family table?
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Perhaps it has not been specified but I believe that before inserting the table you should add to the drawing models the generic of the part managed by ft and set it as the main representation. then proceed as shown in the video (min 4:20-5:40) taking a lot of attention to the click sequence on the cells.
 
calacc said:
Good morning daniele

Perhaps it has not been specified but I believe that before inserting the table you should add to the drawing models the generic of the part managed by ft and set it as the main representation. then proceed as shown in the video (min 4:20-5:40) taking a lot of attention to the click sequence on the cells.
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Right!
 
hi daniele-san
I entered your table in the drw of the sleeve that I attached the image, and also to me it works perfectly. Are you using it on a drawing related to a set? Did you try to refer it to a particular single?
 
nino67 said:
Good morning daniele-san,

I saw the table you created, formally correct. I deleted the first column as "useless" and adapted for line size, I modified the order ..... cmq inserted on my design correctly displayed everything, all variants and all parameters, it had to work also from you!
View attachment 38082I'll get you your modified table, let me know.

Hi.
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Hello nino67,
:finger:
My table was built to see if the system was working, then I would have optimized it all.
Thank you.

calacc said:
Good morning daniele

Perhaps it has not been specified but I believe that before inserting the table you should add to the drawing models the generic of the part managed by ft and set it as the main representation. then proceed as shown in the video (min 4:20-5:40) taking a lot of attention to the click sequence on the cells.
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Hello, calac,
today or recreated a part with his table (where I inserted the generic part of ft),
I recalled the table I posted to you and everything works.
definitely yesterday I had made a mistake in creating the part or pattern of the design.. .
DANI-3D said:
hi daniele-san
I entered your table in the drw of the sleeve that I attached the image, and also to me it works perfectly. Are you using it on a drawing related to a set? Did you try to refer it to a particular single?
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Hello, dani-3d,
it actually works. yesterday's trials I had done both on the single part led by ft and on a set of two parts
but, as written above, I mistaken in some passage during the creation of the drawing or part.
:redface:


Now I would like to ask you if it is possible to insert the table in a set where there is a fixed part and a ft wizard
so I wanted to open this discussion.

I'll explain better.together with contains:
1 part b (without ft)
1 part c (with ft)

creating the table of thetogether with I rise with that table (or similar) to list variants and variables of the ft of the part c?
 
maxopus said:
you must always realize a region of repetition and use the proper parameters of the family table.
regions must be one per column and once you double-click the cell and you open the menu to select the desired parameter.
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hi maxopus,
I tried to create a 2d table and eventually managed, I just need to optimize it a little bit.
I wanted to do some evidence with that suggested by you and then take the money. .
Are you talking about a table created with simple repetition regions, column by column, you would be able to make me understand what kind of paramentaries should be inserted to make it head towards the variables of ft?

Thank you.
Hi.
 

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