Poly
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I used "burnt and dirty" things but since it is a "exercise" and that I use 2009 I place the file so you can have fun to massacre me or maybe you can give me some good straight:tongue:
sampom
Guest
..eh, with imagination and patience the important thing is to arrive:biggrin:.
You tried a little bit of everything, maybe forgetting it closed edge that would better combine the edge joints with automatic and "symmetric" discharges (and above all using only sheet menus without "solid functions").
good idea to make only half a tub and then mirror it, reduce some features and edges to select (which already there is plenty
), good.greetings
Marco:smile:
Sebastiano71
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are perfectmete agree that simplifying the processing is always a great thing. As for the floss of solidworks, I just need to understand whether how cad is good for certain types of processing with sheet metal or not. I attach another pdf, where there are indications on the drawing 2d.
I have seen Annex 13534, I think it is very interesting and approaches what I want to wreck, but there remain about 4 mm of air to weld on the edges, which is not easy.
the material is aisi 304.
I thank you in advance for the attention and speed of receipt of information.
Sebastiano
I have seen Annex 13534, I think it is very interesting and approaches what I want to wreck, but there remain about 4 mm of air to weld on the edges, which is not easy.
the material is aisi 304.
I thank you in advance for the attention and speed of receipt of information.
Sebastiano
Sebastiano71
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You took my request perfectly. I see that there is feasibility in performing the artifact I require. Thank you very much!!! Now I have to see to understand the mistakes made, or the wrong approach method. I am not a magician of the cad, but sincerely I spent several sleepless nights to understand how to do that damn side to connect with the other two. thank you very much and if I can return, for what I can, do not hesitate.
sebastiao:finger:
ps I warmly thank all the users who helped me and give me new ideas.
sebastiao:finger:
ps I warmly thank all the users who helped me and give me new ideas.
sampom
Guest
Who are you talking about?
use the button Share to answer someone else you don't understand who you're talking to.
greetings
Marco:smile:
sampom
Guest
Yes, but I did. just change the sketches further and bring it to the desired "form". or as mike said to reduce the internal rays to the minimum, that even if it does not reflect the reality to trace the shape of the development can go more than well (with an adequate k accordingly).
The same as I used here and we usually use in company.
greetings
Mar
Mike1967
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Yes, you're right to draw "how is true" though as all that
that development must be feasible, suspense on the fact of perfect
visualization and I focus on reliving correct and consistent developments.
apart from jokes, in my company we work on customer design and sometimes
the quantities of pieces are really exigue therefore the certainty of developments
It is an indispensable prerogative to be productive.
cnc on the bending machine and a bender worthy of this name complete the work.
As regards the table, it is not said that it is not good for others, in fact it is sufficent that the matrices are as wide as those that I have parameterized.
In the morning, we'll talk about it, maybe you post yours.
the field of sheet processing is infinite.
ps: poly compliments for the tub, although just give it the sheet to the folder... You better start running... :biggrin:
Sebastiano71
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from the various information received, I took the cue to perform the tub in a different way. I believe that it is practical, but I have strong doubts about design and feasibility. Therefore I attach two files, to show how I developed the corners to "c".
Unfortunately I managed to make only half a tank.
Sebastiano
Unfortunately I managed to make only half a tank.
Sebastiano
sampom
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Sebastiano71
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I posted the file in the forum, but I attach it again. I realized that a lot of provebilmete is not a viable road, as I can't finish the other half of tank. Moreover the laser cutting should cut the edge to 45°, which is unthinkable. I am open to every suggestion on the road taken.
Thank you.
Sebastiano
greetings
Attachments
sampom
Guest
in what forum? here we are in the forum.. only that your file is from 2010 and in many we are still with 2009, so I ask the pictures.
the other half tries to mirror it (key, if it is symmetric) as it made poly.
laser cutting (at least 2d, normally used for sheeting) produces "normal" cuts, but it is not a problem; that development cuts it quietly (it is similar to the previous posted by me).
..ah, finally thank you for the image.. Maybe she was a little older. You know, age:biggrin:
greetings
Marco:smile:
Sebastiano71
Guest
I'll get you new files. I also put the file to read it with the sw.purtroppo viewer I can't mirror the part.
greetings
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Mike1967
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watch this little video tutorial (without pretense...ehh...):finger:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ujctjjnzhtz/part20.zipps, I can't show the function tree. . .
help.. .
Annex also to the list of withdrawals we use at company level.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ujctjjnzhtz/part20.zipps, I can't show the function tree. . .
help.. .
Annex also to the list of withdrawals we use at company level.
Sebastiano71
Guest
It's amazing! in a few steps I saw develop the tub. and think that I spent evenings rebuilding corners, "c", without ever coming to head or finding long and laborious solutions. Thank you for the table is very useful as precious. :finger:
Sebastiano71
Guest
I followed the video carefully but I can't do the stess and things, either from solid or from sheet.:frown:
SHIREN
Guest
Hello, Sam... .
Sorry I'm late in the answer! ! ! ! ! !
in the current position I can only use lapis-pencil-matita
:biggrin:
Poly
Guest
hi the video did it with capture video of swx?
thanks for posting your folding table. It's always interesting to compare the data.
But a question arises spontaneously. How do you make folds on 4-5 mm sp with 0.01 radius on the iron? Does the outer edge not clinch? once we also asked her "on edge" but then especially on the edges with high thicknesses the cliques were obvious and over time caused either structural or rusting (we use galvanized sheets). Is this a problem with my supplier?
Mike1967
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being you a designer I expected this question, while if you show the table to a folder will tell you immediately that it is made so only to avoid that sldwk create too large discharges in the adjacent corners.
r 0.01 is only a reference to calculate developments, if known in the table there is also the re=sp column which, pressing the real radius (the real radius in relay is a hyperbole therefore a fictitious radius.
facilitates the design of many details.
the simplifying purpose of this table is to establish a standard for the calculation of developments, in fact seen the myriads of hollows for the folds, it would be difficult to calculate a precise development considering thickness lam/width quarry/r fold, is from masochists.
we have established a standard for bending. (even if we have all the parameters of the quarries we have)
we say that for "normal" folds the rule that beyond 3 mm thick
imposed the rule ri=sp lam, both for a "relastic" fact and to facilitate the design of the solid with the software.
example: stainless steel casing sp 1.5 mm; in sldwrk: sp 1.5/ r0.01 factor k 0.0 12 mm quarry = perfect development even on 5 6 consecutive folds.
the same piece designed with radius 1.5 factor k 0.273 12 mm quarry...
for galvanizing, too tight bend rays can make "sfoil" the thin layer of zinc that as you know is applied by pressing the sheet into a molten zinc bathroom.
we, in Swiss, in some cases we galvanize the plates after the fold, or use
sheet metal
zincr which is electrolytic galvanized.
Also the used moulds are important, for the galvanized there is a wider quarry to obtain a less accentuated iron/zinc flow.
video: Yes I did it with sldwk... I'm going to do a little sceen to help
Sebastiano.
@sebastiano71 : that video is the result of sleepless nights to learn a program to which I always believed, believe me, to get to those few clicks I sweated a lot... :finger:
dandao
Guest
I'm sorry to introduce you, but since I'm trying to learn sw, I tried to draw the tub
I look at your comments and your reproaches
measurements do not match the real file
Hi.
designed with sw 2010
I look at your comments and your reproaches
measurements do not match the real file
Hi.
designed with sw 2010