bicciofabri
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This part is very different. I don't like it. I don't like it. I prefer to use the method I have with v5. There are no catalogs. everything to do
bicciofabri
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I did the same thing myself and I think it exactly like you.
Giogo
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Didn't they insert the standard catalogues? hopefully insert them in the future ..
v5 catalogs were well organized and functional
Giogo
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for the part of the plates I agree with you however, the rest of the normalized and the basic concept in the insertion of various holes and seats for me worked a lot, especially in the case of multi cavity molds 8 16 24 48 etc.
Vittorio
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on this agree, but this feature is part of the tg module which is integrated into the mold module. with the senno of then you could buy only the tg module and leave the mold module.
I ask @bicciofabri if even in v6 there is this possibility
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Vittorio
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rereading my message I think I was not clear at all.I meant that without buying the mold module you could only purchase the tg license which gives you the opportunity to take advantage of the above advantages.
BonzoRosso
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Good morning.
my company has run the v5 to 3dexperice cat pass for almost a year and we are operating with many limitations of the case.
I strongly disagree, given the very high costs and the very little flexibility of the program.
for large-level assemblies has great limitations;
lanes, handling dynamic sections.
if you think that it is not possible to "spilla" 3 objects and move them together says long.
then personally I think the interface really hurt.. the graphic options inceive to have a toolbar are inserted in a kind of window that always stands in the middle to break the boxes.
the show/hide command is not a change so it doesn't save you at least that one doesn't say you have to be saved.
does not export anything unsaved.
everything is necessarily connected to the server that manages a service.
it is not possible to work remotely at least not to have a very performing vpn, you can't get off but forget about big assemblies or anything.
ah of course could put a feature, as on autocad... put classical display setting of catiav5, it does not work.
available for any comparison.
greetings
my company has run the v5 to 3dexperice cat pass for almost a year and we are operating with many limitations of the case.
I strongly disagree, given the very high costs and the very little flexibility of the program.
for large-level assemblies has great limitations;
lanes, handling dynamic sections.
if you think that it is not possible to "spilla" 3 objects and move them together says long.
then personally I think the interface really hurt.. the graphic options inceive to have a toolbar are inserted in a kind of window that always stands in the middle to break the boxes.
the show/hide command is not a change so it doesn't save you at least that one doesn't say you have to be saved.
does not export anything unsaved.
everything is necessarily connected to the server that manages a service.
it is not possible to work remotely at least not to have a very performing vpn, you can't get off but forget about big assemblies or anything.
ah of course could put a feature, as on autocad... put classical display setting of catiav5, it does not work.
available for any comparison.
greetings
Vittorio
Guest
"interesting" (between quotes) and thank you for your information.
I mean... is it not how they paint it and how they push it above all?
I mean... is it not how they paint it and how they push it above all?
mistermaster
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In short, the lockheed airbus and the boeing among the many others were all wrong, who knows how they arrange to be able to design their airplanes
BonzoRosso
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I'd really like to talk to a person who works in one of the companies you mentioned to have a match and compare with them.
personally I think it's really a bad rebuilt program and that the old version was much more performing.
my design studio is not giant and we definitely do not have the economic possibilities or the labor force of highly structured companies.
the program has a much more computerized cut since it works at least in our configuration on a kind of "cloud" so maybe having a dedicated team is the best solution without always passing for assistance.
if you are doing the pass well for me today since after I have many more users to compare and surely the dassault with more tickets to the lab will put the program.
probably also Italian technical support, are competent people but of course they know the program exclusively for a knowledge aspect that at that point there is command and potential. but not as these can be applied to the project.
I think you'll make it back.
otp: I would like you to sell the licenses of the companies I work for.
personally I think it's really a bad rebuilt program and that the old version was much more performing.
my design studio is not giant and we definitely do not have the economic possibilities or the labor force of highly structured companies.
the program has a much more computerized cut since it works at least in our configuration on a kind of "cloud" so maybe having a dedicated team is the best solution without always passing for assistance.
if you are doing the pass well for me today since after I have many more users to compare and surely the dassault with more tickets to the lab will put the program.
probably also Italian technical support, are competent people but of course they know the program exclusively for a knowledge aspect that at that point there is command and potential. but not as these can be applied to the project.
I think you'll make it back.
otp: I would like you to sell the licenses of the companies I work for.
Vittorio
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Hi.
from your comment I assume you already use it.
What do you think are the positive sides?
falonef
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See also my post ♪14
Vittorio
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ciao @falonef I read it, the question was aimed at those who might already use it
dalmott
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by curiosity, have they changed the strange management (at least for me) of the work of assemblies?
mistermaster
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you can try on the eng-tips forum
for all others there is the trial version on the cloud only 345 for 3 months, and that I know, here
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BonzoRosso
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As for the cloud package and therefore having an online plm available is organized quite well, obviously not knowing the interface you have to take your hand, icons or mechanisms according to me could be relived.
In comparison with another system, for example, windchill plm competition (compatible with catia v5) I find it lower and much less intuitive. then obvious if you "register" along with the program also a storage system so much better.
I prefer a structured system in another way.
all options for project advancement, status, revisions - things that in our company are managed - are not very simple to manage with a not strictly dynamic 3d.
If for example I have a x-in component along with,b,c,d in revision 00 in "released" state and I take it off of revision I will have to go in each together to say to apply the x component in rev.01 - also the program does not have the ability to apply a revision for levels, so if in a set I need to change a single component and I have all the product in release state I will have to trigger to all the revisions.
the fact of having an online archive, well, but you see if you really need a plm so pushed - in my opinion useless.
As for the work together there are no, if you expect to be able to make cuts together, you will always have to apply them to the last detail, which of course as it was in v5 specializes. even for a different hole, something unthinkable on semi-finished, you will have to do n codes n pieces.
Another very annoying thing, that cat v5 did was to assign a hidden id number to each product, in a set you could not enter two equal codes and could not be even in the same folder. 3dexp doesn't give a damn, for him the code is as if it were a title and then you could have the same code on the server 20 times with different shapes mounted in the same set and doesn't notice it, then the human error factor also enters.
the advantages can be a well pushed graphics, in fact it is very nice to see from afar I made super presentations. but when you try to put a constraint or try to dissect you must have a good graphics card.
you should be able to see what your colleagues do live time, I work on a colleague on b we have same open together we see upgrades with special command. It only works at the level of processing if he adds me a new piece I do not see it, I have to close and reopen.
ah for last and less important, on catia v5 I often happened to put a quota bond type offset beat the value even with algebraic functions. this does not work at least that you do not open the appropriate window and you go to put the value.
moves things even fixed with anchor in space if the bond is not updated. but the most fantastic thing is that the program fails to update a single bond at a time but with the update icon he tries to update the entire section or current tab that will tell you want.
the version tests the advice warmly but of course all the settings must be revised.
prepare to charge you massively all your normalizations the default program has no catalogs of materials or materials.
In comparison with another system, for example, windchill plm competition (compatible with catia v5) I find it lower and much less intuitive. then obvious if you "register" along with the program also a storage system so much better.
I prefer a structured system in another way.
all options for project advancement, status, revisions - things that in our company are managed - are not very simple to manage with a not strictly dynamic 3d.
If for example I have a x-in component along with,b,c,d in revision 00 in "released" state and I take it off of revision I will have to go in each together to say to apply the x component in rev.01 - also the program does not have the ability to apply a revision for levels, so if in a set I need to change a single component and I have all the product in release state I will have to trigger to all the revisions.
the fact of having an online archive, well, but you see if you really need a plm so pushed - in my opinion useless.
As for the work together there are no, if you expect to be able to make cuts together, you will always have to apply them to the last detail, which of course as it was in v5 specializes. even for a different hole, something unthinkable on semi-finished, you will have to do n codes n pieces.
Another very annoying thing, that cat v5 did was to assign a hidden id number to each product, in a set you could not enter two equal codes and could not be even in the same folder. 3dexp doesn't give a damn, for him the code is as if it were a title and then you could have the same code on the server 20 times with different shapes mounted in the same set and doesn't notice it, then the human error factor also enters.
the advantages can be a well pushed graphics, in fact it is very nice to see from afar I made super presentations. but when you try to put a constraint or try to dissect you must have a good graphics card.
you should be able to see what your colleagues do live time, I work on a colleague on b we have same open together we see upgrades with special command. It only works at the level of processing if he adds me a new piece I do not see it, I have to close and reopen.
ah for last and less important, on catia v5 I often happened to put a quota bond type offset beat the value even with algebraic functions. this does not work at least that you do not open the appropriate window and you go to put the value.
moves things even fixed with anchor in space if the bond is not updated. but the most fantastic thing is that the program fails to update a single bond at a time but with the update icon he tries to update the entire section or current tab that will tell you want.
the version tests the advice warmly but of course all the settings must be revised.
prepare to charge you massively all your normalizations the default program has no catalogs of materials or materials.
davide75
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we use 3dx together with solidworks.
It was configured by my company's mother house that has several offices that also use caia and wanted to have the same pdm.
for how it was configured is little performing., slow. impossible to rebuild whole machines and manage them.
I don't know what they did with personalizations but it's actually embarrassing.
It was configured by my company's mother house that has several offices that also use caia and wanted to have the same pdm.
for how it was configured is little performing., slow. impossible to rebuild whole machines and manage them.
I don't know what they did with personalizations but it's actually embarrassing.
falonef
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but I am sure of a customer who with 3dx manages to open assemblies with over 1 milon of components.
I said well 1 million components...
I said well 1 million components...
davide75
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As I said, my father's home made personalizations and so he put on his way to ineffective both in terms of performance and speed.
the thing is quite stressful as you can never have a vision of the machine together. They've made a mess and now they don't want to spend to make up by losing so much time in design.
the thing is quite stressful as you can never have a vision of the machine together. They've made a mess and now they don't want to spend to make up by losing so much time in design.
Lettore espatriato
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(b) In my sector (automotive) , compared to v5/windchill (or v5/teamcenter ) and the assemblies in particular, I do not feel I can complain about .
above all, do not have to do (a lot) distinction plm/cad saves me a little time and rogne .
I do not use so many constraints, but on the dynamic sections/presentations/reports and similar things, I definitely prefer v6 . and, of course, the dynamic sections of v5 were not at the same level . unless they have only 3 components on the cross.
Perhaps tomorrow they will put the possibility to export something unsaved, but, in fact, export (and then deliver to others, customers or suppliers who are ) something that is not saved somewhere as "native" , does not seem to me an idea consistent with iso, certification systems , etc.?