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Good morning;
I am a young architect recently enabled, I was looking at the software to start the profession, but the costs of autocad at the moment are prohibitive, in the old studio where I collaborated had an oem version of which I now miss the name; looking for I have seen there are several software using the cad engine, including analist, spec star, zwcad,
someone uses them and I know which is the least expensive, and the best quality/cost, for the moment I just need a tyrant that saves and reads dwg?
Thank you
 
MassiVonWeizen said:
that of the free cad is an argument already discussed, as you can imagine.https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/alternativa-free-ad-autocad.51966/https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/quattro-cad-free-a-confronto.29315/https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/cad-freeware-qualcuno-sa-consigliare.18710/https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/cad-freeware-alternativi-ad-autocad.501/
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hello thank you for the answer
I do not look for a free cad but a cad with autocad oem base, in many of those posts are mixed clones, with others based oem, moreover there are not the prices that are those that interest me most, at the moment I need an oem for a question of compatibility with dwg that they have to turn me and operating speed since I use almost only keyboard commands and that with an oem I should not re-learn
 
oby said:
Good morning;
I am a young architect recently enabled, I was looking at the software to start the profession, but the costs of autocad at the moment are prohibitive, in the old studio where I collaborated had an oem version of which I now miss the name; looking for I have seen there are several software using the cad engine, including analist, spec star, zwcad,
someone uses them and I know which is the least expensive, and the best quality/cost, for the moment I just need a tyrant that saves and reads dwg?
Thank you
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Hi.
I think you're messing with the oem concept.

normally by autocad oem means a sw that a sw house 'brands' and personalizes based and licensed technology "autocad oem"... say an autocad that can inglobare the software components of this software house making the whole product appear proprietary.

these sw are always 'specialized' in particular sectors.
in Italy there should be the example of the software house torinese spac that offers a product autocad oem (a cad for electrical design).

what you need (as far as I understand) is a sw commonly described as compatible autocado 'clone di autocad' that offers the same interface and the same modus operandi for 90% of the features.

here the list is the usual:
- zwcad
- gstarcad
- Bricscad
- progecad
- Nanocad.
and other less widespread
As for the best you just have to download demo versions and try them yourself according to what are your real needs.
 
there is also draftsight that is free and does everything that does autocad, keyboard commands included. Actually all cads have customizable keyboard commands.
any cad that autocad inglobes does not cost little.
we are talking about autocad, autocad mechanical, autocad architecturel etc... always to rise of cost.
 
oby said:
I am a young architect recently enabled
someone uses them and I know which is the least expensive, and the best quality/cost, for the moment I just need a tyrant that saves and reads dwg?
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Forgive me, are you telling me that you have no way to spend 30 euros a month for an autocad lt? we are talking about 1 euro per day! for one of the main tools of your work! If that's how it changes work. . .
 
but draftsight is free and equal.... anyway a minimum you have to invest to work.... we hope there is no extra cash because it is the evil of the Italian economy
 
starts with a sw 3d (sometimes mistakenly called also bim).
there are all the prices...
by now, the construction cycle is becoming "bim oriented", the pa in the course of 2 years will apply it to all contracts; the enterprises will follow in this sense, so it is not worth stopping at a cad 2 d
[…]a few years ago the stanford university, through an analysis conducted by the cife (centre for integrated facilities engineering), examined how the various professionals involved in the project can benefit from the use of the bim model.
have calculated that the bim allows:
  • to eliminate by 40% unpreventive changes
  • to reduce by 80% the time required to generate a cost estimate
  • to have greater accuracy in cost estimates, with an error margin of up to 3%
  • to have a savings of up to 10% of the value of the contract thanks to the elimination of differences
  • to have a reduction of 7% of the time for the project
that is why, large or small that is the size of the design studio, it is no longer possible to give up these advantages, it is no longer possible to give up the bim.bim is not only an innovative technology, but represents a new way of working. is born from the desire to go towards collaboration between designers, the interoperability of software, the integration between processes and sustainability.

the bim is a collaborative design method because it allows you to integrate in a single model the useful information at every stage of the design: architectural, structural, planting, energy and management.

the bim model contains and integrates information concerning the building or its parts such as geographical location, geometry, material properties and technical elements, construction phases, maintenance operations.

for this it can be used by each of the stakeholders that intervenes on construction during its life cycle as designers, construction companies, maintenance companies, plant businesses.

active participation, access to information always updated and the coordination imposed by the sharing of a single model drastically reduces the percentage rate of errors and inconsistencies, reducing as a result the number of changes and, ultimately, the design costs, making everything more economically sustainable.[…]
(fonte: acca software)
 
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I'm sorry, but with everyone, I'm inimibkm bum bamnon. I also read the other articles but as always are a series of bureaucratic engles that do business for someone but I did not understand a bat.
Could you be nice to explain to us I'm bim as if I had to explain it to a 4-year-old boy?
 
meccanicamg said:
I'm sorry, but with everyone, I'm inimibkm bum bamnon. I also read the other articles but as always are a series of bureaucratic engles that do business for someone but I did not understand a bat.
Could you be nice to explain to us I'm bim as if I had to explain it to a 4-year-old boy?
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on and the portal is better explained
bim is therefore not a product or software but a “information container on the building” in which to insert graphical data (such as drawings) and specific technical attributes (such as technical cards and features) also related to the life cycle.
in fact when drawing objects like windows, floors or walls it is possible to associate with graphic information (wall thickness, height etc.) also information such as thermal transmittance, acoustic insulation etc.
bim was born from the desire to go towards collaboration between designers, the interoperability of software
the bim is indeed a collaborative design method as it allows to integrate in a single model the useful information at every stage of the design: architectural, structural, planting, energy and management. for this it can be used by the planters, the engineers strutturisti, the architects, the builder, the climbers, the testers etc.
the three-dimensional model therefore contains information regarding volume and size, material, appearance, technical characteristics that are not lost in communication to other studies and other computer platforms. https://www.edilportale.com/news/2015/10/focus/bim-a-cosa-serve-e-chi-lo-userà_48424_67.htmlI make plants but fortunately :p the bim for now remains in the architectural field,revit mep hardly uses it so much to make an example, it is judged too complicated
 
motocad said:
I loved you
on and the portal is better explained
bim is therefore not a product or software but a “information container on the building” in which to insert graphical data (such as drawings) and specific technical attributes (such as technical cards and features) also related to the life cycle.
in fact when drawing objects like windows, floors or walls it is possible to associate with graphic information (wall thickness, height etc.) also information such as thermal transmittance, acoustic insulation etc.
bim was born from the desire to go towards collaboration between designers, the interoperability of software
the bim is indeed a collaborative design method as it allows to integrate in a single model the useful information at every stage of the design: architectural, structural, planting, energy and management. for this it can be used by the planters, the engineers strutturisti, the architects, the builder, the climbers, the testers etc.
the three-dimensional model therefore contains information regarding volume and size, material, appearance, technical characteristics that are not lost in communication to other studies and other computer platforms.https://www.edilportale.com/news/2015/10/focus/bim-a-cosa-serve-e-chi-lo-userà_48424_67.htmlI make plants but fortunately :p the bim for now remains in the architectural field,revit mep hardly uses it so much to make an example, it is judged too complicated
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all this amount of info bim is exchanged between the various softwares revit archicad etc... via the ifc files
and on the pagehttps://www.buildingsmart.org/compliance/certified-software/who wants,can download the pdf of all sw certificates to export and import ifc models,and check if they export and import without errors
 
So basically the ifc file is a format of exchange consisting of solid and graphic model plus all the technical data that belong to it?
and therefore the bim is only the speech that they agreed to make I am formed equal for all and that the cads must handle it?
 
meccanicamg said:
So basically the ifc file is a format of exchange consisting of solid and graphic model plus all the technical data that belong to it?
and therefore the bim is only the speech that they agreed to make I am formed equal for all and that the cads must handle it?
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(y)
 
archline.xp bim software for architecture not free, but with various interesting solutions.
I press that I don't use it, but I just witnessed a presentation.https://www.cadlinesw.com/sito/software/archline-bimIf I didn't understand, it's the evolution of the company that produced zucor tecnigraphs and bieffe tables.
 
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a subforum entitled "bim and surroundings", was opened in the forum architecture - building engineering.
I have posted some documents, which is the point of starting fruitful discussions
 
I suggest you take gstarcad that to have everything, even 3d and with perpetual license without obligation to renew, you really spend a nonsense. based on my experience, I was not born yesterday afternoon, unfortunately, I bought it and I can assure you that it is perfectly equal "to the unnamed", both for the management of commands and for the speed of response in the work operations. are extremely satisfied with the purchase I made. free there are and work well, especially draftsight, but they are set in a legerly different way, but they allow you to work equally. I decided not to use it, because I need to have a command for complete mass properties, which unfortunately does not have and do not understand just x that the ds do not add it...mah.
In addition I conclude by saying that it is time to send in some beautiful country the mother house of the unnameable software. . .
 

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