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I assume that the development of the helid can be done by keeping in mind what you said te tarkus.

nisba let me do it is not a constructive answer and suitable for this type of forum, also because I think we have to arrange all with the tools we have in hand.

and if you are able to arrange inventor a hand on the development of a helicoid gives it to you.

cmq here is my dish. (helicoidal) obtained with inventor from a helical crumpled with the sheet module of inventor pro. 2015
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Do you know that your post with the controversy about the nisba did not understand?
nisba, ciccia, fuffa, I don't know how it says in your parts, it just means that inventor doesn't, indeed I correct myself, I can't get him to do it, despite years I beat the boss.
I didn't even realize if you were able to develop a helix on the perpendicular plane to the axis of revolution (as asked who started this discussion).
if you know how to do, post an ipt file rather than pictures.
 
Sviluppo elicoide.webpthe element of spira instead is done in another way and however not directly as sw. long ago I saw it somewhere but I do not remember where.
 
Do you know that your post with the controversy about the nisba did not understand?
nisba, ciccia, fuffa, I don't know how it says in your parts, it just means that inventor doesn't, indeed I correct myself, I can't get him to do it, despite years I beat the boss.
I didn't even realize if you were able to develop a helix on the perpendicular plane to the axis of revolution (as asked who started this discussion).
if you know how to do, post an ipt file rather than pictures.
hi I apologize I did not want to make controversy, cmq the development does it on the length of the skeleton of the helicoid.
definitely does not need inventor to make the development of the helid but can serve and can be used well in situations like the scale we talked about in previous posts.
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who:http://www.cad-notes.com/automate-flat-pattern-of-continuous-spiral-flight-design-using-ilogic/is not automatic, but for those who have placed the question could be useful
for the "non-automatic" I have long been equipped with a file where I create the only one helid at a step+ a second file that fishes the parameters from the first, applies the mathematical formulas of the case and creates a face in "lamiera", with the size of the development.
going then to the practical act,to me always worked well.:biggrin:
 

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thanks tarkus for sharing (can always serve and works :biggrin:)
I am not convinced of the development of the external dish of aptitude: ok, in the case of the plate worked, it is not so for the auger element because it is the definition of the side to be, according to me, conceptually wrong (in fact the flat development of the auger element is a rectangle... ).
 
thanks tarkus for sharing (can always serve and works :biggrin:)
I am not convinced of the development of the external dish of aptitude: ok, in the case of the plate worked, it is not so for the auger element because it is the definition of the side to be, according to me, conceptually wrong (in fact the flat development of the auger element is a rectangle... ).
is true laura the coclea element is not an exact development. indeed it is wrong and it is absolutely right what you have put (that not automatic).
inventor makes development as if it were a dish with the length equal to the helid from which it departs.
But the dish is right:finger:
 
Hello to all I am rotten hope not to gaffe since it is the first time I use the forum also I have a similar problem I created an ipart of the cosy of an elittic scale I converted it into sheet metal but does not let me make the flat model someone had similar problems?? ? ? thank you very much for the courtesy
 
It's a bit too generic as a question:
how and in what environment did you create it? Why does an ipart?che version of inventor use?
 
ciao..l'ho creato come i part facendo un loft poi l' ho convertito in lamiera ma nada...uso inventor 2015...
 
You created it as part I suppose, I don't understand the ipart, and not even the why of the loft.
can you post the file or at least a pdf?
 
Of course. ..sto I understand how to post files...I am not very practical bear patience
 
to create that band do so:
open a file in a sheet metal environment and set the thickness of the sheet that will have to have the thigh.
draws on the xy plane the only profile of the cosmos, internal or external, does not matter, you have to draw only one.
click on "model" to access modeling commands.
command "extrusion", if it is not already set,click on the surface extrusion icon, the one with the orange cube image without a face and choose your profile, type the extrusion share of the full height of the scale.
now command "inspection".
set the thickness you thicken by writing "thickness", so go fishing directly the thickness parameter you had already set for the sheet.
now you have created a shaped sheet of total height equal to your scale.
return to "lamiera", click on "flat model", if there is no problem should develop a rectangular figure.
at this point use the "explain" command when asking for the reference face click on a thick sheet face and then click on "all folds".
you find yourself again with the flat sheet as if it were the flat model, but on this it allows you to work.
- I'll scrape out the areas to get the thigh.
- control "cut" on these two areas.
- command "fill" which is nothing but the command with inverse functions of the command "explains", so asks you the same things.
in the browser removes visibility to the overbuilding.
You finally modeled your constable.
time to do so: about 1 minute when you took your hand.
you can at this point repeat the "explain" command to make the score of the steps and add the fixing holes and other various machining.
 
I assume that the development of the helid can be done by keeping in mind what you said te tarkus.

nisba let me do it is not a constructive answer and suitable for this type of forum, also because I think we have to arrange all with the tools we have in hand.

and if you are able to arrange inventor a hand on the development of a helicoid gives it to you.

cmq here is my dish. (helicoidal) obtained with inventor from a helical crumpled with the sheet module of inventor pro. 2015
View attachment 40715View attachment 40716greetings to all
good, I just tried with a helid to make with a plate aisi 25x8,
- I converted to sheet metal
- I set the thickness to 25 mm (it is the perpendicular face to the central axis of the helid)
- I go flat model and develop a 25x8 long plate in my case 10200 mm.
Thank you very much
 

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