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a greeting to all,

I have recently graduated in mechanical engineering (specialized degree) and I have started the job search for a couple of weeks. My first impression unfortunately is negative. I did 4/5 interviews in different agencies and two interviews in companies. both talks did not go well because the first was a no directed the second perhaps I interpret as a no. my questions are addressed to companies that deal with design since my specialization is precisely in design. Now obviously I would like to work for what I studied but since the period I will certainly have to have some flexibility. premise this, on the forum surely there will be many designers engineers, people who have worked for different time and maybe entrepreneurs. especially to these figures I address myself. I am inexperienced and need to be trained but how can I address myself, on what can I leverage to have more chances in finding work? My resume unfortunately has been marked by times for the achievement of long degree. Unfortunately, I had very serious personal problems.
how is this aspect seen from companies? How do human resources assess this aspect? How do you assess this aspect?
Now I can't perceive from the outside how my resume can be evaluated, I can't perceive what are the features that most attract an entrepreneur looking for an engineering figure like mine. I'm sure if I had this perception I would be able to better address my demands. many ask the knowledge of a very fluent English. I have no knowledge of English so wide but if for example I'm sure that developing this feature I'd be able to have real opportunities I'm willing to pack for the land with the purpose of improving my English by doing the first job I can find.
but this means investing more time than maybe not from a real return.... I don't know.
so I will return to all those who know more about me. Every opinion or point of view can help me and why not help those in my own situation.

Thank you.
 
Bye!

small premise: My partner is in your own situation, that is, in there with years and he only has the three-year (chemical), and he did in two years almost the same interviews that you did in so little time. In my opinion, there are a number of negative impressions in this period, because of the growing working competition unfortunately.

I feel like having the specialist definitely helps you get a lot more chances.
Unfortunately, companies, especially in Italy, see "mal" the aspect you refer to. In my opinion, the main reason is that they cannot take advantage of a whole series of reliefs which would instead have if you were younger (training, contracts of various piff, etc.). This of course without anything to take away from those who do it in the foreseen years, and we would miss anything else.
I know that some facilities have it even if they take the graduates, but I'm not sure.
especially if you point to certain types of companies English, but not only that, it is very important.
so I would recommend that you continue to study it in Italy, if you can't go out.
long ago I took some contact in germany, and I was told that there a graduate is considered much more than here by us. Obviously I do not want to feed common places, but it seems that there is a strong demand for graduates in mechanical engineering. If you don't have any ties, bonds and you want, I can send you some references via mp.

for the rest in good luck for everything. :finger:
 
the problem is the common places. many say the work in Italy there is no work and you cannot distinguish whether it is only a way to complain classic Italian or if it is reality. for this I would need straight from who is already in the industry. I just did another job interview, again perhaps because the company seeks a candidate with strong knowledge of the English language. I'm pointing my research not only on high-profile companies. I don't know how many engineers know the high-level English language!
If I consider my colleagues really a small minority. I don't understand! I have sentimental ties but if I don't work how I can send them forward? ?
 
last month just graduated I went to Australia to realize how it works there. I've been more than a month. I wanted to figure out what I could do with an engineering degree in the world. I couldn't do anything in Australia. I had to first acquire a discreet knowledge of English, then problems not to end with visas.... in Australia only works if you have a strong propensity to stay there for a long time. We must build our own future from scratch. I even met a civil engineer who had been a bricklayer for over a year. almost all young people are in the catering sector... also graduates and I do not deny it I was disappointed. My expectations about my degree were really different. So my dilemma is investing time and resources in Italy or leaving without too many scruples? When I come back in six months with English knowledge, will I really have that quality that everyone seems to be looking for?
 
Then let's give you some answers.


It happened to get your hands dirty, go to the workshop to turn and mount the machines, know how to draw and design well. If you can move well in small companies of a dozen employees where you have to do everything including fucking in your ass... you are ready to aim at another. If you don't have practical experience, you'll make a lot of nonsense that you pay dearly and they won't appreciate you.


If you know too much they don't pay you the right and if they're envious they put the bastions in your wheels.


if you know English is better even if in some places it is obligatory because of the multinational etc. but if you are in ut just know how to use the dictionary and some words...the right x do not write nonsense.


the crisis is sectoral, geographical and follows fashion. companies that do extraordinary and others that close.


design studies could take you more easily because they don't care about big practical experience but just turn the 3d. if you enter a production company, with workshop and ut you have to run because you need people ready immediately. The old people do the washing and don't make it because I thought I was there. young people have no experience and have no practical views. This is a problem and for ut it is difficult to find valid people. others do not cure the technique, and just that it costs little and that they can exploit you.


Don't give up. I the last time I looked for work I contacted more than 300 companies to do a dozen interviews then after 8 puts find work.


too many antiquated employers... and it is right that they close. few honest people but there are still. So good luck.

going abroad can be enriched but it is also a little sensible.... why do I have to go to work? only because there are many mynchions? there will also be someone honest who needs to launch into the market. . .
 
interesting your point of view.
I think I fully understand this part:

"It happened to get your hands dirty, go to the workshop to turn and mount the machines, know how to draw and design well. If you can move well in small companies of a dozen employees where you have to do everything including fucking in your ass... you are ready to aim at another. If you don't have practical experience, you'll make a lot of nonsense that you pay dearly and they won't appreciate you. "
I was in two technical offices, small and medium-sized companies. in those conditions if you are smart you make your presence feel very much but you have to be quite transverse even with technical skills.
I do not give up but since I have a very wide scenario I really find it difficult to understand what it would be the right choice.
"going abroad can be enriched but it is also a little sensible.... why do I have to go to work? only because there are many mynchions? there will also be someone honest who needs to launch into the market... "
I hardly share at all. abroad work is very different. in Anglo-Saxon countries the quality of work is much better.
two weeks ago I was in a company that automatons for an interview and the entrepreneur blasphemed, impregnated and sent curses everywhere. I heard it from the waiting room. to me he reserved a really folklore treatment. between words and offenses... I don't think that abroad would have happened such a character!!! but the choice to leave is not simple. even in that case you must be very convinced. leaving could be convenient even to have less competition. Unfortunately in Italy we are many with graduates and we compete among us. This unfortunately is a big problem.
interesting discussion I hope that others too will say their impression and point of view!
 
I was reading in the forum somewhere that people have plan b in case things go wrong. ok is useful. but I see fear and distrust and unfortunately of fear and distrust I see so much around. preparing for any eventualities that we do not even know happen... precautionary but you risk not investing in the moment.
I don't understand where this "crisis" is taking us but there is a turbulence and a really unusual instability and this is reflected in the work. practically the fixed place in the private no longer exists...I don't want to raise controversy and only that maybe I would be useful to understand how to approach this new way of life, to work. . .
 
As for the crisis there is to say that those who invented it are making a lot of money by fucking everyone else. It's like a war masked by so many falsehoods.

the metalworking sectors pull almost all, they build plants and machine tools, and they are produced in quantity cars, ships and military vehicles. high-strength steels for ribbed and aluminium shells for the rest of vehicles. so it means that the money is there and that the job is not missing. also in Italy this year the companies invested in these plants and will end up paying in 2015/2016 so the money is there.

In other sectors I don't know how it is but if they don't work it's because there's something wrong.



in the public there is always work or better they pay you not to do anything even if things no longer so.... in the private the fixed place you have if you go, you have a fundamental role, you bang, your employer has the brain and is not a repressed speculator cellar.
 
Good morning

I know that many former engineering colleagues have found work following a postgraduate internship. I think it's a good way to start, then step by step what is born and you will see...
 
the problem of starting postgraduate internships is that however if there is a weight transfer still largely on the family, still... if there is something interesting in my area surely yes.
to answer mechanicsmg. What I see from the outside is that the crisis is real but it does not concern the lack of money or work. the problem is that the economy according to me is changing to adapt to new market rules. with the emergence of new economies competition and global. I can't fully understand what happens but a certain thing I think I have identified it, the economic system that is there is one hundred years old and after the industrial revolution that there is no radical change in this sense and I think it's time. What do you think? How will the job change? what will be the characteristics of the new employee, the new employer, the new industry.... according to your point of view. answering this question, I could direct myself.
 
meccanicamg said:
Then let's give you some answers.


It happened to get your hands dirty, go to the workshop to turn and mount the machines, know how to draw and design well. If you can move well in small companies of a dozen employees where you have to do everything including fucking in your ass... you are ready to aim at another. If you don't have practical experience, you'll make a lot of nonsense that you pay dearly and they won't appreciate you.


If you know too much they don't pay you the right and if they're envious they put the bastions in your wheels.


if you know English is better even if in some places it is obligatory because of the multinational etc. but if you are in ut just know how to use the dictionary and some words...the right x do not write nonsense.


the crisis is sectoral, geographical and follows fashion. companies that do extraordinary and others that close.


design studies could take you more easily because they don't care about big practical experience but just turn the 3d. if you enter a production company, with workshop and ut you have to run because you need people ready immediately. The old people do the washing and don't make it because I thought I was there. young people have no experience and have no practical views. This is a problem and for ut it is difficult to find valid people. others do not cure the technique, and just that it costs little and that they can exploit you.


Don't give up. I the last time I looked for work I contacted more than 300 companies to do a dozen interviews then after 8 puts find work.


too many antiquated employers... and it is right that they close. few honest people but there are still. So good luck.

going abroad can be enriched but it is also a little sensible.... why do I have to go to work? only because there are many mynchions? there will also be someone honest who needs to launch into the market. . .
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quoton for mechanicsmg with mega applause :4425: (and today is the second:tongue:)

Unfortunately I can tell you that companies look more at the time they took to graduate than the final vote.
graduating in short time is synonymous with ease and speed of learning.
having the final vote of 110 and praise or 90/110 is not entirely discriminating unless you want to make a contest.

My advice is to try to write your cv better, emphasizing your strengths.
maybe even attach a letter of presentation where you write briefly about yourself and, finding the right words (otherwise you would risk having the opposite effect), you may also explain why the delay.

the fact of incentives for under 30 is a speech that was valid until a few years ago but now, with the infinite crisis, there is no more age distinction.

I can tell you it's very important.
companies are all facing foreign markets and English is the first language.
I don't say I speak it as a commercial but at least you have to be able to express a technical concept.
 
unfortunately I understand the fact of graduation time. I was aware of it during my studies.... I even wanted to retire as soon as the specialist started. I don't know maybe I would have done well. In any case it is difficult to try to explain the slowdown in a letter of presentation, at the limit I can try to spend a few words to convince them to interview me and then they....

for English unfortunately I perceive a situation different from what you describe. I have done about 5/6 interviews with different agencies and have asked me a high level of English. a particularly drawn by the fact that I had specified the knowledge of English made me do a test according to their ranking I am at the "intermediate" level. I realize that a technical concept I can express perfectly (not without mistakes that are clear) but not enough to them, they want a fluent English. Most ads are for a graduate with a great English... I don't know. .
 
you may be running for positions where you have many contacts with the outside.
or it could be that behind the announcements there were multinationals.

I, even if I am in an Italian company (but with different locations in use and cynic), write 70% of my mail in English but I can assure you that in speaking I am really school.

It is difficult for those who make you test during the interviews because it means that there is no caxxo of how the working world works.
I can understand a commercial but for a technician the important thing is that communication is clear... if it is fluent so much better.
 
I did the English test at home.... it's just a statement doesn't change things much. agencies reason in commercial terms for them are a product and the thing they look at is my sellability. I was also convinced that English for a technician did not offer so important but now I'm believing... Maybe I feel things wrong. However after your message I changed the form of my presentation letter a bit. . I hope it's more incisive now. Thank you.
 
Please, no!

Good luck with your search:finger:

we expect you on this thread with good news... updated technicians
 
As promised, updates arrive. Looks like something came out. I will have done more than 15 interviews between agencies and companies then the surprise even I could choose between two opportunities. That's a relief, guys, my mom. I will probably start working this week, they are preparing "cards."... thank you for giving me the opportunity to express myself and have a confrontation with more experienced people of me. :wink:
 
dario__3 said:
As promised, updates arrive. Looks like something came out. I will have done more than 15 interviews between agencies and companies then the surprise even I could choose between two opportunities. That's a relief, guys, my mom. I will probably start working this week, they are preparing "cards."... thank you for giving me the opportunity to express myself and have a confrontation with more experienced people of me. :wink:
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happy for you!
Good luck!!!! :finger:
 

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