lighten heavy design containing dynamic blocks

[raf]

as from title.. .
I need to insert in my mileage drawings (even 12,000) of dynamic blocks, always the same but repeated precisely n times, I thought the use of the blocks lightened the design, creating instances and not copies of the starting block, instead apparently not so, the design comes to weigh easily several mb.
Given that I need dynamic blocks for at least 2 reasons, I would like to know if there is a way to make these last lighter (graphically they are already reduced to bone!).

Thank you!

use autocad 2009.

 

[Joseph]

- How much does the single block weigh?
- several megas? 10, 100, 1000? how many blocks exactly?
- there is no difference between copy duplicate the block inserted once and insert it several times with insert: they are always instances.

 

[raf]

I attach example, if you make a series representing several thousand instances of the same block you will notice how the file will grow easily to dismeasure (for me a file of 3mb is already small, maybe I mistake approach, I don't know...).

when I first talked about instances I refer to other software where the insertion of hundreds of blocks (i.e. instances) does not flow so heavily on the weight of the final file, if not the use of the block in itself would not make sense!

 

[lattu]

from what I understand the block is an editable rectangle with inside a description that inserted in series goes to compose a table.
At this point, I know it's not exactly what you asked, but wouldn't it be better to use the classic autocad tables? (always they're good for what you need)

 

[raf]

What a table!
excuse the very schematic representation but those should be refractory bricks that should be placed inside an oven, to make it short...
doing them so I can change them in size and I can do automatic count.

 

[lattu]

Did you create the block?

if you try to change the size, in the command line you read: specify the point location or [Punto base/Annulla/Esci]:
the block reference contains replacement objects.
you cannot change your custom properties.if you try to open it with local reference change, the following error appears:the block reference contains custom lock properties.
the direct modification of the block will cause the interruption of the connection
to the original definition and the creation of a new block definition.if you try to open it with the block editor, the following error appears:the block contains replacement objects
impossible to change it in the block editor

 

[raf]

I did.

to me with button dx > editor blocks it changes perfectly.
Are you sure to use at least autocad 2009?

 

[Joseph]

I have inserted 10000 times (100x100 series) your block and the file has passed from 63k to 630k; where is the problem?
I was doubtful that you'd put it in a blast, but the attribute's presence excludes it.

 

[raf]

the problem is that the block I posted is simplified only in attributes (description), and therefore multiplying it 100x100 actually the final file does not weigh much. However, doing it with my 43-character desciption block the same block multiplied 100x100 makes the file weigh over 2mb, definitely too, considering that there are also other things to draw. . .
It's possible it's just attribute fault, so?
absurd. :frown:

 

[Joseph]

I have inserted in description a default value of 48 characters and the file has grown of 30k.

Besides, looking at the corresponding dxf file I found:

aec_refedit_status_tracker
2
aecdbrefeditstatustrator
3
aecarchbase50|product desc: autodesk desktop 2007 |company: architectural autodesk,inc. |web address: www.autodesk.com-----
c:\documents and settings\rxbalacco\desktop\p.dxe

Are you sure you only work with autocad2009?

 

[raf]

Why if I change the description to 43 characters the file weighs me 2mb? ? ?


that I know use autocad 2009... :biggrin:

going to "product information" says:

product name:
autodesk inventor suite 2009
service pack product:
autocad mechanical 2009 sp3

that is why I save in 2004? I don't think so.

 

[Joseph]

you just have to try...to save in 2007 format
but sorry, if you need the dynamic block, why save in the 2004 format that does not support dynamic blocks?
the file without your block, how much does it initially weigh?

 

[raf]

saving the same file in 2007 does not change anything.. .

Does 2004 not support dynamic blocks? so why can I save and open files in 2004 without losing the functionality of the blocks?

Why save in 2004? because I work in a place with ancient mentality.. . [Polemica mode: ON]I don't know how to get out of it.. .

 

[Joseph]

perhaps inventor or a.mechanical support dynamic blocks even in previous versions (but I do not know the programs); but you're working with base autocad and you create blocks there?

 

[PlannerRoad]

...for me a file of 3mb is already small. . .

I don't understand anything, though. you talk about 3 heavy mb files.
What do you mean? only for the purposes of size or even from the management point of view in relation to the hardware you use?
I normally work with dwg files also of 50 mb, so 3 mb don't seem so heavy.

maybe inventor or a.mechanical support dynamic blocks even in previous versions (but I don't know programs)....

It is obviously so.
otherwise you raf would have lost the "functionality" of dynamic blocks.

 

[raf]

I use normal autocad (not mechanical) and I create the blocks there.

I talk about heavy files because before inserting the blocks the files themselves weigh about 6/900k, as soon as I start with my blocks I immediately exceed 2/3mb. If you tell me it's normal, I'll resign. . .

As for the hardware, yes, drawings with so many blocks greatly slow me visualization, but if they are necessary I know that there is little to do.. .

p.s. I have a xeon 3.2 ghz with 3gb of ram, picture video card fx 3400/4400 and win xp, I don't know whether it is obsolete or not...

p.s. 2 the strange thing is that joseph behave differently blocks.

 

[Joseph]

can you attach the file from 100 blocks with the modified attribute, that is the file that weighs 2/3 mb?

 

[raf]

Okay, here he is.

p.s. are 10000 blocks.. .

 

[lattu]

Did you try to redefine the dynamic block?
Maybe when you created it, you unintentionally made some "sirty pass"

 

[Joseph]

try inserting the dynamic block into a new design and fanne 10000 copies (with series) and then you will tell us.