material allocation to a set

[calacc]

Hello, everyone.
In similar cases I do so:

I assign the material to the individual composed to have all the right physical characteristics, weight, volume density etc., I do not think that there is the possibility to assign the material to the individual details from the set.

In the whole I create a material_ass parameter that recalls the material parameter of the first compound welded, in this way if change type of material of the first component, the parameter of the material of the assembly is updated. this only works if all the details have the same type of material as the first component.
I hope I've been clear.

I think it's a good method, thank you for the suggestion!
then in case the material changes, go model check, and that God sends you good!!! :wink:

 

[calacc]

I have not understood what you want to get; if you want the weight of the axieme there are reports that calculate the weights of the components; if you want a summary of the materials in drawing, you have to use a repeat region in a table, and so on

and here fall the donkey, I still have to bang the little head in these repeat regions... yesterday I did some experiments and failed, today I will make some more attempt! I've had some time left because I've finished the construction. . .

 

[calacc]

Great, so now it's okay, you understand?

Sure, thanks for the tips! :finger:

 

[tartufon80]

Correct! in the environment together I created part - creates feature and I started to model the dishes that made up my frame (without template).
as I had a symmetrical geometry to compose then I grouped some parts into a subaxieme and I made it create subaxis/spect and hit them also on the other side.

It's clearer now!

Since I had never worked this way, I did some tests following your procedure: finished creating some part with "crea feature", I reactivated the axieme, and the first "regenerate", asked me the density to be assigned to each part.
done this, I recalled the proe pro_mp_mass parameter (wildfire 3, I do not know if in later versions it is called different) and assigned it to my weight parameter, through a relationship in the assieme peso=pro_mp_mass.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I tried to do the same thing, following a different procedure. you said you followed this path at creation speed: I followed your procedure, but instead of "crea feature" I used the "copy from existing" option, selecting my start part; for each created part I have always bound the part to the main sisco of the axieme, and then I used as references the geometries of the newly created parts....it seemed fast, and at the same time, defect my start part, already configured and ready to use :biggrin:

In any case I believe that the result does not change: materials, density, and all that follows, are to be attributed to the parties. as I understood the thing, the axieme acts only as a "collector" of information, to be properly displayed in the drw!

 

[DANI-3D]

I think it's a good method, thank you for the suggestion!

I'm glad you enjoyed my sorrow.

then in case the material changes, go model check, and that God sends you good!!! :wink:

Yes, it will be necessary to tame the "bestia".

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

In any case I believe that the result does not change: materials, density, and all that follows, are to be attributed to the parties. as I understood the thing, the axieme acts only as a "collector" of information, to be properly displayed in the drw!

just like that! exactly as in reality. . .

 

[calacc]

It's clearer now!

Since I had never worked this way, I did some tests following your procedure: finished creating some part with "crea feature", I reactivated the axieme, and the first "regenerate", asked me the density to be assigned to each part.
done this, I recalled the proe pro_mp_mass parameter (wildfire 3, I do not know if in later versions it is called different) and assigned it to my weight parameter, through a relationship in the assieme peso=pro_mp_mass.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I tried to do the same thing, following a different procedure. you said you followed this path at creation speed: I followed your procedure, but instead of "crea feature" I used the "copy from existing" option, selecting my start part; for each created part I have always bound the part to the main sisco of the axieme, and then I used as references the geometries of the newly created parts....it seemed fast, and at the same time, defect my start part, already configured and ready to use :biggrin:

In any case I believe that the result does not change: materials, density, and all that follows, are to be attributed to the parties. as I understood the thing, the axieme acts only as a "collector" of information, to be properly displayed in the drw!

bueno, so if instead of making "crea features" I do "copy from existing", select a start part I immediately got everything available (materials, parameters, etc...), I will try!!!
However I suggest you try from now on to use this method, it is the principle of top-down design, which has the advantage of being much more flexible in the initial study phase

 

[tartufon80]

bueno, so if instead of making "crea features" I do "copy from existing", select a start part I immediately got everything available (materials, parameters, etc...), I will try!!!
However I suggest you try from now on to use this method, it is the principle of top-down design, which has the advantage of being much more flexible in the initial study phase

Yes, in the evidence that I did, my start part is uploaded by default in its field, remaining the chance to look for another one! :wink:

in the study phase of the next project, I will try to remember your advice! Thank you! :finger:

 

[rallye]

There are various modes of work in modelchecks, if I take your example, it would be the mode of regeneration that consists of running mc automatically every time you regenerate a part or a set, but this still means opening the parts and assemblies individually.
will there be power of mc instead it is expressed in batch mode, so basically the external execution without having to open the cad or less the objects affected by the update, so if by hypothesis you have to requalify any parameter or rule within your model historian this is the most suitable mode, an example?
do you want to add a specific material to all parts where it has not been assigned?
You want to remove a parameter that you don't need anymore on all models?
do you want to rename a parameter because it has changed or why your client wants to call it differently?
all this is still doing it automatically without you having to open each part or together to add or remove one of the parameters of the examples mentioned above.
take the example of a start_part:
I assume you know that when you create a start_part all the models generated by this last "hereditate" certain parameters, materials, levels, etc., well but if for one reason or another over time I have to add other parameters, I can always do it in the start_parts and from this moment on all new models inherit these characters, from this moment on... is not retroactive, never!!! so... what do all of them do? open and update old models manually with new features aligning them to the new start_part, until they are few is good, but when the database grows you can so much shoot...mc automatically does it on all your database I have to add more?

greetings

hi ozzy, linking me also to this discussion https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/1959-descrizione-materiale I ask you for help: I have to change a relationship in a list infinite of .prt file
I read from your comment that you can do with modelcheck, program that unfortunately I never used and I don't know exactly where to start.
Can you help me?

Thank you very much