mechanical designer engineer but what does he do?

[Marco93!]

provocative question.

I'm a junior mechanical engineer. I graduated 2 years ago at the magisterium.

I started working in a consulting company where I make calculation reports on steel structures through fem analysis. I never put down a drawing at the table, made only the “calculist”. work as an engineer I like but very much as a civil engineer, the steel structures that dimension are mainly in civil as scaffolding.

I miss the mechanical part of trees, reducers, etc. I started looking and came to have an offer of ral 27k+mensa from a company 70km from home and return.

the company has about 300 employees and realizes automatic machines for industrial packaging. I like it as a new experience. the problem is that in the team where I would be the only engineer, my superior is a expert with 25 years of experience in the same company. and the job you have given me is 40% table, 40%3d and 10% design. it also allows me perplexed to interface only with experts and not engineers who have a slightly different vision from mine.

I wondered, but the work of the mechanical designer is with so much design and table? Will all the mathematical models I studied at the university ever apply?
or looking to find more innovative realities where you can do engineering?

I would like to have the opinion of mechanical engineers with a few years in experience more than mine

 

[biz]

everything depends on different variables, as you can imagine.
for example:
_Sector of employment;
_grade of innovation of the company;
_completeness of work;
_research and development;
_ the fact of subjecting to certain requirements, dictated by rules, by predetermined performance, etc.;
And so on...

There are realities where you can do engineering.

 

[biz]

40% table, 40%3d and 10% design

And the other 10%? Coffee break?

 

[Marco93!]

Thanks for the answer. the rest are extra activities like putting codes in the management or interface with colleagues

If I see all this drawing activity I think it is a job more perishable than an engineer. how do I understand the innovative level of the company? I think you understand it after 6 months standing inside

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

it also allows me perplexed to interface only with experts and not engineers who have a slightly different vision from mine.

What is your perplexity?

my superior is an expert with 25 years of experience in the same company. and the job you have given me is 40% table, 40%3d and 10% design.

with such a person you would learn a lot of technique and practical analysis of materials, costs, processing, problem solving.

I wondered, but the work of the mechanical designer is with so much design and table?

unless you have a technical office made of galoppini dedicated only to "manavalence", the designer makes layout, modeling, calculations of mechanical organs and also draws and sometimes gets dirty hands. Moreover, the designer is a job and not a degree of study as an engineer.

Will all the mathematical models I studied at the university ever apply?

in roles that require a computational engineer and similar.

 

[biz]

But you know that right now.
If you want to work as an engineer, maybe you should change company.
unless they want to jump in quality. try to question them.
do numerical simulations, for example?

 

[biz]

personally, working for a relatively small company, I take care of all phases of design, from ideation to drafting technical documents, although most of the time I use to make calculations; both manual, i.e. with paper and pen; be helping me with excel; be numerical with sw as octave gnu and fea. And I like it a lot.
then there are days that maybe model in 3d without making a calculation, or days in which I prepare technical drawings, for example. one day go out to make a nickname for example, etc.
a great job, in my opinion.

 

[Marco93!]

What is your perplexity?

my perplexity is that if I talk to him about plastic deformation or bending resistance module do not comprehend me, and that look more at practicality instead of dimensionalization.

with such a person you would learn a lot of technique and practical analysis of materials, costs, processing, problem solving.

su questo assolutely

unless you have a technical office made of galoppini dedicated only to "manavalence", the designer makes layout, modeling, calculations of mechanical organs and also draws and sometimes gets dirty hands. Moreover, the designer is a job and not a degree of study as an engineer.

in roles that require a computational engineer and similar.

but does a computational engineer need? I see that fem analysis and dimensionalizations of until do not affect much.
in this company usually use excels for calculations and have no fem software

 

[Marco93!]

personally, working for a relatively small company, I take care of all phases of design, from ideation to drafting technical documents, although most of the time I use to make calculations; both manual, i.e. with paper and pen; be helping me with excel; be numerical with sw as octave gnu and fea. And I like it a lot.
then there are days that maybe model in 3d without making a calculation, or days in which I prepare technical drawings, for example. one day go out to make a nickname for example, etc.
a great job, in my opinion.

I would have had another offer from an engineering study of 30 people with 6 who deal with mechanical design. and I am also thinking about this opportunity. they rely on workshops that they know and often in addition to the calculation report follow all the steps until the realization and delivery to the customer. but it is not a company but an engineering study. I see that they make many structural calculations and fatigue checks... leaves me doubt only the small reality

 

[biz]

it leaves me doubt only the small reality

What do you mean?

 

[Marco93!]

What do you mean?

is not a multinational, you do not have the guarantees of a consolidated company

 

[cacciatorino]

and the job you have given me is 40% table, 40%3d and 10% design.

applies until you have enough experience, then the percentages will change.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

my perplexity is that if I talk to him about plastic deformation or bending resistance module do not comprehend me, and that look more at practicality instead of dimensionalization.

when I read statements like this I get sadness; but do you really think that a peritum with the triple/quadruple of your work experience does not know what a plastic deformation is and would look at you as if you were talking about gigabyte to an Amazon forest indigenous?
people dealing with welding deformations, sheet bending retreats, frame countervents etc.
as if from me, that I only have the qualification of turning, a peritum came to tell me that I can not quote a design or assess whether to make a welding angle or partial penetration. or if I went from a welder to explain how to make that 5x5 cord 10 meters long without ripping the beam.
I assure you that if so far you have only made reports of calculations in the new company where you will have to make modeling and drawings for the first months you will have to depend on your "subalterni" lost for everything

but does a computational engineer need? I see that fem analysis and dimensionalizations of until do not affect much.
in this company usually use excels for calculations and have no fem software

not all companies need a computator. There are companies that just need a sheet and a pencil and someone who knows what to write to us and how to read what comes out.
if a company does not daily structural analysis because it does not design products that require it if and when necessary it addresses external studies.

I see that they make many structural calculations and fatigue checks... leaves me doubt only the small reality

I can't understand if you're too paranoid or too squealous

 

[meccanicamg]

the mechanical designer, must be able to take information from the various business sectors such as hydraulic, electrical and automation, put them together, verify and dimensional the mechanics so that it can do the performance.
in many sectors you go to eye, experience etc. because they do not have the culture (lost or not yet) that do not know to verify a bending, an arrow, a bolting, of the connection rays on a rotating bending tree etc.
certainly is not the life of the analyst....that does only fem and specific calculations and often does not understand much of mechanics, heat treatment, processing choices etc.
So many companies trust and rely on external suppliers who do the calculations and then sell them engines and gearboxes, batteries and power systems... but they often take those tricks not recently.
I often pre-size business reducers or personally know the project on which the supplier is working and critically interact. . .
I have a supplier that is a well-known gearbox salesman... who invariably misses the codes of the reducer's acronyms... so I choose them and he makes me the price.
Unfortunately it is a world where you have to bang so much to take little ... recognition included.

 

[stevie]

What do you mean?

probably being a small reality is afraid that with the swinging market that there is can be put at the door to the first crisis.. .

 

[Stan9411]

in this company usually use excels for calculations and have no fem software

my boss calculates the own frequencies and the ways of vibrating structures we design with an excel sheet that is 10 years of evolution and refinement... and it strikes us as ansys. then it is clear that when we have to do structural analysis of a complex and lace component, we pass to the fem.

choose the industry that interests you.. the content of your job can always evolve and become more challenging

 

[DrBarde]

from what I read you look for a role that makes you do abstract calculations without ever getting to the design and production part.
change the search, mechanical designer gates and insert mechanical analyst or fem analyst. If he does it with an Englishman (not in real English) horror, maybe it's even better. You should have more luck looking for what you're looking for.

personal note, humility is sometimes the key to success. may also have a master's degree, but in the choice of a component one must never denigrate the opinion of those who with that specific component have been working with us for 40 years. He definitely knows more about her.

 

[Marco93!]

probably being a small reality is afraid that with the swinging market that there is can be put at the door to the first crisis.. .

Your boss I think he's an engineer and not an expert


What I think is that if you're surrounded by losers you become a peritum, if you're surrounded by engineers you become an engineer

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

What I think is that if you're surrounded by losers you become a peritum, if you're surrounded by engineers you become an engineer

which presumably.

said tommaso d'acquino -timeo hominem unius books- that is to say to fear who knows one subject; If you're an engineer surrounded by engineers, you'll always be an engineer, if you're an engineer surrounded by expert engineers, you'll be an engineer and expert.

 

[bip]

What I think is that if you're surrounded by losers you become a peritum, if you're surrounded by engineers you become an engineer

I thought that in order to become an engineer, it was necessary to do the university, to pass the qualification exam and then to put on a commitment to learn and deepen, even with a little bit of water. It's enough to be among engineers, good thing the osmosis

if you want to become an engineer (the one who ingegnates and brings home the solution, not the one with the piece of paper) work with people who perhaps studied a little less at school, but who has a lot of practical experience, it is definitely a point in favor: in this way you will be able to combine better theory and practice, unfortunately I see too many people who, while being very prepared on theory, then can not find the practical solution to the problem