mechanical designer engineer but what does he do?

[Mario SJPD]

I would have had another offer from an engineering study of 30 people with 6 dealing with mechanical design

and the other 24 what do they do?

the problem is that in the team where I would be the only engineer, my superior is a expert with 25 years of experience in the same company

probable that a mechanical expert graduated 25 years ago with as many years of specific experience knows a lot but much more than you think you know.
come to me just hired to explain the plastic deformation and my look lost in the void will be my last look you will see.

If I see all this drawing activity I think it is a job more perishable than an engineer. how do I understand the innovative level of the company?

what you want to innovate if you have no idea of the state of art of evolution and the history of existing solutions. the best way to become aware of it and put on the drawings.

What I think is that if you're surrounded by losers you become a peritum, if you're surrounded by engineers you become an engineer

Is your title of study a job?
have you done two accounts on some scaffolding? is this the work as an engineer?
I love the presumption of these young engineers and thanks to this and the inability that often associates with it that I can eat every month.

 

[cacciatorino]

I would invite everyone to keep the tones lower. especially for the most experienced, who should have the maturity to understand the doubts of a young man who faces the world of work.

 

[Marco93!]

and the other 24 what do they do?

civil design/restauration

probable that a mechanical expert graduated 25 years ago with as many years of specific experience knows a lot but much more than you think you know.
come to me just hired to explain the plastic deformation and my look lost in the void will be my last look you will see.

I would be happy to be denied, but where I work now a geometer with 20 years of experience did not know what plastic deformation was

what you want to innovate if you have no idea of the state of art of evolution and the history of existing solutions. the best way to become aware of it and put on the drawings.

Is your title of study a job?

have you done two accounts on some scaffolding? is this the work as an engineer?
I love the presumption of these young engineers and thanks to this and the inability that often associates with it that I can eat every month.

I would like to speak to people who understand if I talk to him about critical speeds of a rotor and not that they remain grounded in silence. How can I apply my ideas to someone who can't follow me? I do not say that I have nothing to learn from a peritum with 10 or more years of experience, but that after a few years things could be narrow

 

[Mario SJPD]

I do not say that I have nothing to learn from a peritum with 10 or more years of experience, but that after a few years things could be narrow

If you've been able to do well in the company your voice will be heard and you can change things and teach everyone or maybe change company, it's the basis of progress but without the basics there is no progress.
so now you choose the sector where you want to operate in this perspective and not for those details you mentioned before.
to return to the title question are your skills your desire and your choices to determine what you will do and what you will take care of not your title of study.

 

[cacciatorino]

for an ing to listen to the losers is a great opportunity to learn. There are many impossible things to calculate, for which the expert eye of a person who has been dealing with that subject for many years is irreplaceable. for example: to understand if a welded structure deforms once machine tools are processed; consider that a drive that is now good maybe in ten years will be undersized due to wear and dirt, avoid using the specific actuator that would seem done on purpose but then put the customer in trouble with the management of spare parts, etc.

Theological (and assimilar) aspects are those for which experience often counts more than the ability to make calculations.

On the other hand, the ining is able to continue the path more in which the expert arrives, precisely in virtue of his best ability to imagine future scenarios.

the best thing of course would be a expert then graduated in engineering, category of which I honor to be part of! :lol::

 

[PierArg]

I would invite everyone to keep the tones lower. especially for the most experienced, who should have the maturity to understand the doubts of a young man who faces the world of work.

overlooks "with presumption" I would add.

 

[meccanicamg]

surely if the environment is in the cellar style, where you retire to camp, you draw beautiful figures but without physical sense, well it certainly turns out difficult to grow and often, cause little mental openness you pass through the sapientone, only because you know something more than them.
This depends on the environment.
In other cases, it may be that senior designers may be harmless to do better and try to deal with their feelings. already this allows you to experiment.
then even better the upper level environment where a little everyone makes calculations and fem you can learn to do specialized things properly.
the excellent is to try all three...even if the first is depressing and after a few months makes you make the decision to find new working experiences.

 

[Marco93!]

I'd like to know how many of those who give me the alleged are engineers.

I am humble but ambitious. in a place where I can learn I would go for a half salary

 

[Mario SJPD]

I'd like to know how many of those who give me the alleged are engineers.

to me not of course, good work and thanks to exist

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I'd like to know how many of those who give me the alleged are engineers.

I am humble but ambitious. in a place where I can learn I would go for a half salary

I think you confirmed what someone suggested.

 

[MFT]

I'd like to know how many of those who give me the alleged are engineers.

I am humble but ambitious. in a place where I can learn I would go for a half salary

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[bip]

I am humble but ambitious. in a place where I can learn I would go for a half salary

If you want, wherever you learn, in the worst case, like a disorganized complete company, you learn from the mistakes of others and do not repeat them.

Also on the forum you can learn a lot, from the technical point of view (there are discussions that could be attached in manuals) than on how to manage the job, the right process to design the components, how to manage the "strange problems".
not least, many good advice on the world of work.

Of course, you must know and want to read them.
I give you my personal advice, because I also saw it where I work: too often, too much importance is given to the title of study, unfortunately the idea "laureato=expert" is not always true. I repeat, in the company where I work, many "big pieces" are convinced.

a bachelor's degree certainly gives you some important basics, it's definitely a symptom that if he's earned it is not the last of the last, unless he bought it, but he doesn't presume to be expert in everything, it's just a great base to understand and learn faster in the world of work.

note in margin: with the excuse of the covid, the examination of ability to the profession of the engineer, has been extremely simplified, so basically there is nothing distinguishing "who passed the examinations of the faculty of engineering" from "who has been verified knows how to apply at least a little what he studied", so there is even more people who freze the title of "ingegnere" but that then practical act has no experience, and this goes to conquer.


for me the engineer is the one who is ingenious to solve problems (sometimes very difficult, sometimes more trivial), not the one with the piece of paper, although for Italian legislation it is not so. the ability to solve problems, learn it with practice

 

[PIETRO2002]

I'd like to know how many of those who give me the alleged are engineers.

I am humble but ambitious. in a place where I can learn I would go for a half salary

Today they also count the soft skills, know how to work in team and get to the "even" also with the last of the lathers (with maximum respect for category ) that has only the third average. .
then you can well go up to the high levels of management, the degree of study gives you or should give you technical knowledge, but companies are also made of men.

 

[cacciatorino]

do all the ambitious equation = disrespectful, but it's not automatic that it is so.....

 

[TECNOMODEL]

do all the ambitious equation = disrespectful, but it's not automatic that it is so.....

but in the specific case more than lack of respect I would say it is a matter of presumption.

 

[Mario SJPD]

do all the ambitious equation = disrespectful, but it's not automatic that it's so

In this case I have to tell you that my equation is: presumptuous=encapable
a presumptuous person is unable to learn more from his fellows because he will feel all inferior to himself, when he realizes that his education is not enough in the world of work we will have another "unsatisfied engineer" curious case that he too is Veneto! ?

 

[cacciatorino]

In this case I have to tell you that my equation is: presumptuous=encapable
a presumptuous person is unable to learn more from his fellows because he will feel all inferior to himself, when he realizes that his education is not enough in the world of work we will have another "unsatisfied engineer" curious case that he too is Veneto! ?

Mah, it seems to me that he says that if he goes to work in an environment of losers his masters will be perished, with all the specificities of the work of the experts, in good and evil. good are the great practical sense and experience, evil is the non-competence on some more advanced and in-depth fields.

higher education in this case will have to do it on its own, while if it ended up in an environment with so many engineers it could also draw from other points of view.

in my life I have met both experts and engineers and I can assure that cultural differences exist here. The five years of extra study are felt, especially on the long term. This is an awareness that lacks a bit of periti, that of certain subjects do not know existence or know it by oral transmission and not by systematic study (I say having done both paths).

 

[Mario SJPD]

mah

I hope you are right .probably my perception is distorted by my work

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Mah, it seems to me that he says that if he goes to work in an environment of losers his masters will be perished, with all the specificities of the work of the experts, in good and evil. good are the great practical sense and experience, evil are the non-competence on some more advanced and in-depth fields

he said specifically:

my perplexity is that if I talk to him about plastic deformation or bending resistance module do not comprehend me, and that look more at practicality instead of dimensionalization.

I would like to speak to people who understand if I talk to him about critical speeds of a rotor and not that they remain grounded in silence

Do you really not exchange it for presumption?
Do you want to tell me that when you were still alone, you would have done the figure of what falls from the hole if he told you about these things?
If he shows up in an office with this attitude he gets burned down within a week and then he will be abandoned to himself.

 

[cacciatorino]

he said specifically:


Do you really not exchange it for presumption?
Do you want to tell me that when you were still alone, you would have done the figure of what falls from the hole if he told you about these things?
If he shows up in an office with this attitude he gets burned down within a week and then he will be abandoned to himself.

Are you sure you can discuss with a plastic deformation ing and critical speed of rotors, and I intend to discuss it functionally to a project? You know the subject superficially and in depth, it's a fact, as it's a fact that he doesn't know where to put the continuous welds and those at times, and you do.