pack&go, delete files

[cacciatorino]

having the wife drunk and the full barrel is very hard.

In fact I told you that the pdm is bad, better the rm!!!! :biggrin:

 

[andrea.boerio]

It is true that it must be configured, but pdmworks is quite simple.
I don't know what you mean.
If you want to have common projects to work on and a common database, then you have to go to something serious as enterprisepdm.
if you want to give files, the scan-out of the files becomes local and then I am extracted from the vault.

my advice however is to use a pdm when you are already more than one.
management of files, revisions, references, etc.. should not be done with stratagems or with binding methods.

There was a period where we passed to 3d and it was a slaughterhouse.
each codified, renamed, moved... as it believed logical.
The troubles were difficult to solve and took away a long time.
with the advent of the pdm, it was a relief.
Sincerely now as I would not give up pdm.

in principle, and especially budget allowing, I absolutely agree. I also found myself well with cocreate work managers (even if I didn't love their cad), but the pdm I preferred was team center with ug.

at the moment from me we are still in a somewhat primitive condition (they still used so much 2d until yesterday, and all in all for the type of work I do not blame them) and especially with standard installations, so I arranged

I created three parallel design structures on file systems, starting from a common root: one represents the common space, the other the approved archive, the other still the user workspace. assigning rights to read different writings, and setting up ad hoc search paths (whose logic at first hated, now comes back very comfortable :smile, I run the equivalent of check-in/out operations and approvals through displacements from one director to another.

then in the evening and in the morning I turn macros to verify the presence of any files with repeated name (luckily I find less) or with rights not consistent with what is expected. with a few dozen users (not all full-time on the program) and with a lot of patience I'm running this way for now.

...but it is clear that as soon as they give me a little budget I push for a real pdm.:biggrin:

 

[SolidUser]

Then it's not okay. Most often the works consist of modifying an existing group to make it a similar new one, but the components are shared on other 150 different groups, and they cannot be stuck a month to wait for me to stay back the group of 80 components of which I had to change 4 or 5 but while keeping all the other 76 or 75 blocked. I have to call what sold me the briefcase as a solution to the problem.....

However since you have dbworks and a linux server always on, install mysql on the linux server that is supported by dbworks.
make synchronization between their sql and your mysql at each event and your dbworks client points to your mysql and download what you need.
They'll think about doing everything.

problem solved (technical).
The other problem... run the solution... to that you have to think about it... I can solve all your problems..no?:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[Pablo]

but here we talk about pack and go or pdm??? ... or maybe you wanted to make a page of an entire pdm??!!!....:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[andrea.boerio]

but here we talk about pack and go or pdm??? ... or maybe you wanted to make a page of an entire pdm??!!!....:biggrin::biggrin:

and you're right......:redface:
... let's say that if the p&g had that option to let choose if and what files delete, between the original ones used for copying, with all precautions of the case... I don't care.

 

[Pablo]

I had qs. need when a nice day I decided to pack a car, whose files were contained in a single "calderone" (fold) and to move it to an ad hoc folder, and then do us other similar operations where, basically, I had to move the files instead of copying them.... unfortunately I had to do everything to handle, it seems to have used an application that compares the presence of files with the same name in more directory. .

 

[andrea.boerio]

I had qs. need when a nice day I decided to pack a car, whose files were contained in a single "calderone" (fold) and to move it to an ad hoc folder, and then do us other similar operations where, basically, I had to move the files instead of copying them.... unfortunately I had to do everything to handle, it seems to have used an application that compares the presence of files with the same name in more directory. .

I for the moment arrange myself between solid visual basic, excel, and some holy shell of dos. gunny said to improvise, adapt and achieve the purpose...:redface:

 

[Pablo]

I for the moment arrange myself between solid visual basic, excel, and some holy shell of dos. gunny said to improvise, adapt and achieve the purpose...:redface:

as always (or almost:biggrin! !

 

[re_solidworks]

not to contradict hunter, but I saw for the first time rm of solidedge last week and I don't think so practical. I find a pdm much more practical. I also serve from the outside and the problems of collaboration caused by the pdm are certainly lower than those who have worked without.
I think it's just a little difficult to get into the mentality of using a pdm, especially for those who have always been free to do what they want.

 

[re_solidworks]

There was a period where we passed to 3d and it was a slaughterhouse.
each codified, renamed, moved... as it believed logical.
The troubles were difficult to solve and took away a long time.
with the advent of the pdm, it was a relief.
Sincerely now as I would not give up pdm.

grossmodo we did the same experience even if we bought the pdm immediately but it was never implemented correctly for incompetence or menefreghismo of the former retailer.

What do you use pdm?

 

[cacciatorino]

not to contradict hunter, but I saw for the first time rm of solidedge last week and I don't think so practical. I find a pdm much more practical. I also serve from the outside and the problems of collaboration caused by the pdm are certainly lower than those who have worked without.
I think it's just a little difficult to get into the mentality of using a pdm, especially for those who have always been free to do what they want.

I don't know, sometimes a company tells me: "eh, but you know now we put the pdm and working with the outsiders has become very complicated, is it not that you would take it so that we can cooperate? because otherwise the system is armored... "

I was talking about the external study without pdm that has to work with the company equipped with pdm, but you seem to me you are saying that with the pdm you find yourself well, but you may talk about your internal pdm. If so, they're different.
How do you send a project to a company with pdm? Put properties in swx models and then the company's pdm swallows everything and digests files by placing commercials in the commercial folder, parts in the parts folder and assemblies in the axiemi folder and maybe even filling out the charts and the separate ones? or do you have to go to their headquarters and fill in the form of insertion of each hand anagram? clearly speaking of a customer who does not use your own pdm.

It is clear that a pdm is better than rm, that maybe it is ostic to use but it is very powerful (it is also necessary to see the "manic" of who showed it to you) , but at what price is implemented?

However the discussion was born from the fact that to move a set (do not copy it) with swx it serves the pdm, without failing to manage dangerous maneuvers on the file system. It seems to me a pretty serious shortage for software of this level.

 

[re_solidworks]

I don't know, sometimes a company tells me: "eh, but you know now we put the pdm and working with the outsiders has become very complicated, is it not that you would take it so that we can cooperate? because otherwise the system is armored... "

I was talking about the external study without pdm that has to work with the company equipped with pdm, but you seem to me you are saying that with the pdm you find yourself well, but you may talk about your internal pdm. If so, they're different.
How do you send a project to a company with pdm? Put properties in swx models and then the company's pdm swallows everything and digests files by placing commercials in the commercial folder, parts in the parts folder and assemblies in the axiemi folder and maybe even filling out the charts and the separate ones? or do you have to go to their headquarters and fill in the form of insertion of each hand anagram? clearly speaking of a customer who does not use your own pdm.

It is clear that a pdm is better than rm, that maybe it is ostic to use but it is very powerful (it is also necessary to see the "manic" of who showed it to you) , but at what price is implemented?

However the discussion was born from the fact that to move a set (do not copy it) with swx it serves the pdm, without failing to manage dangerous maneuvers on the file system. It seems to me a pretty serious shortage for software of this level.

also in this case depends on the pdm and how it was implemented. If for example I assigned to another external study a job I could import everything with a dozen clicks.
this if this collaborator assigns the correct properties to the models and uses a correct coding, but if you go to work for a company it seems normal to me that the first thing to do is ask their rules and apply them.
in case of subsequent revisions I just export the pack and go with the boards from the pdm and let them work and then import it all later.
in the case of the pdm I use is not at all complicated, just configure the import rules and do not need a programmer. I can do it myself and take a few minutes.