stevie
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there is nothing to do with the kind of details made. ..what differentiates the artisan company from the industrial one is registration to the chamber of commerce.
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stevie
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those figures are referred to the gross in factaverage salary is 25000€ of ral and 2083€ /month of net?
only that 25000€ of ral are about 1400€/ net month (with thirteenth). What game are we playing?
haga78
Guest
exactly my experience with the first job (but it wasn't a wagon...), and I hadn't signed a contract yet. . ....
all contracts provide for a trial period, generally of 2 months, in which the parties can close the contract at any time, even after 1 hour, without right cause or sanctions.
in practice you sign, say 1200 net, on the first day they put you in a desk alone and ask you to quickly throw down a layout of a wagon to give to an important client...and you don't know where to go; You know it's not your place, not yet andnot at that price, you get up, thank you, greet and leave.
Starting with a low profile in many ways is better, just because you will have simpler tasks and you can "sopport" as you grow.
Finding yourself with a "high" job also means that your employer expects a lot from you, and if you are at first you will hardly be able to meet his expectations.
then there are those who frame you with a low level and claim the work of a senior (as happened to me), then take and go away.
goccia
Guest
Excuse me. at the moment I do not work and I have to evaluate two offers: the first in the mechanical field "heavy" (of which I reported the contractual details), the second in the aeronautical field.I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Are you working now or are you unemployed?
DrBarde
Guest
As I recall, even before a purely economic matter, it should assess which of the two interests you most, and which gives you more opportunities for growth.Excuse me. at the moment I do not work and I have to evaluate two offers: the first in the mechanical field "heavy" (of which I reported the contractual details), the second in the aeronautical field.
for 100 euros of difference, do something for which you have a basic interest and that allows a tangible improvement, the game is worth the candle.
goccia
Guest
absolutely correct, but the evaluation of the second opportunity is not only economic but also logistics (they could ask for the transfer).As I recall, even before a purely economic matter, it should assess which of the two interests you most, and which gives you more opportunities for growth.
for 100 euros of difference, do something for which you have a basic interest and that allows a tangible improvement, the game is worth the candle.
I love the flight, I accept the trips, but if they ask for the transfer I can't.
marco.mz
Guest
Hello, drop,
of course the evaluation of pros and cons, comparing both solutions, must be done . then as it recommends @drbarde do not evaluate the mere immediate economic proposal (unless it is unmatched) but value well what it can offer you in a future or even better, what you like and what your professional ambitions are. If all these questions are still clouded (something quite normal at the beginning of the career) you go toss, experience and understand what is best for you! In the interviews, however, he talks about your uncertainties and what you can and what you can't do, useless lying and then retracting later. the important thing is to start making experience the world of work seeks that, level and pay, if you go, they adjust (almost always). . .
of course the evaluation of pros and cons, comparing both solutions, must be done . then as it recommends @drbarde do not evaluate the mere immediate economic proposal (unless it is unmatched) but value well what it can offer you in a future or even better, what you like and what your professional ambitions are. If all these questions are still clouded (something quite normal at the beginning of the career) you go toss, experience and understand what is best for you! In the interviews, however, he talks about your uncertainties and what you can and what you can't do, useless lying and then retracting later. the important thing is to start making experience the world of work seeks that, level and pay, if you go, they adjust (almost always). . .
goccia
Guest
thanks to all, proposal accepted because the second temporeggia. but being in evidence I feel serene from a certain point of view.
pietro46
Guest
in germany starts from 2500 grossIn my opinion, they include both designers and designers.
I really want to see a designer who takes 2800 euros.
MassiVonWeizen
Guest
So what? do you mean you can work in Italy by making you pay according to the contracts in force in germany? or that you have to move into mass in germany that work is so much that they run after you to offer it?in germany starts from 2500 gross
What is the meaning of your intervention? if not the reasons remain a half provocative sentence and just.